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Hi guys! So got some good news, in the next 6 months or so, I'll be moving up north to Washington!! :la: Bellingham, WA specifically. EXTREMELY excited, as this has been a dream place for us to move to for ages. We have accepted the position, now we just need to wait for them to schedule Gareth for the final physical fitness tests and they will give us dates to report for duty and for him to go to their academy. Once we have dates, I'll put in for a transfer with Starbucks and move out whenever they give me a start date and we buy a house. We've been desperately trying to get out of Yuma... we hate it here SO! What that means for us, is in the next 4-8 months, I will be making the 25 hour drive with all the pets and we will be buying our first home!

The biggest thing I wanted to know from all of you delightful bird people around the world is how on earth I should care for my birds in the cold!! I'm a Florida girl, and Yuma has the same weather... I don't know where to start on bird safety around a heater, other than in theory! I know that any teflon heating elements in a heater are a major no-no, but going into buying a home, I need to know about anything to be aware of as far as central heating and home safety. The homes we are looking at are forced air/baseboard and one is gas. All is bird safe, I would assume, the same as AC would be in a home but I want to be 100% sure.

As far as housing the birds, we're looking at 3 bedroom homes... one bedroom would be the bird room until the kiddos get a little older, and then my plan is to move them to the basement... we are looking at either getting a home with a finished basement OR finishing one ourselves in a year or two to be properly insulated and potentially a tad sound proofed (for my benefit, because then I can get a big loud bird and Gareth won't complain ) and setting it up exactly as I want as a bird room, loaded with full spectrum lighting, timers and dimmers, and all kinds of goodies to make it a birdy paradise. Either that or just finish it and turn it into a bedroom and family room, or two bedrooms with a bathroom and put the kids down there. Do any of you keep your birds in a finished basement?

The sound of it just feels a little harsh, because there's no windows, but at the same time I feel that if I can kit it out for them with full spectrum lighting, timers so they get 8-10 hours of 'daylight' controlled to keep hormones in check, keep it warmer than the rest of the house house so they don't get a chill, humidifiers, etc then it seems as though it would be better than a modified bedroom. Obviously, the birds will get the same amount of out-of-cage time as they do now with their playstands in the living room, or wherever we spend the most time. I could even set up a small TV down there for them to watch and would likely have my future big freshwater fish tank and my reptile cages there too, as I do now in the bird room, so they have things to watch and keep busy.

What do you all think? Does that seem safe and feasible? I have no experience with keeping them nice and warm and cozy, other than having the heat kick in when it drops below 66

The biggest thing I'm excited for is to be around civilization again. More than 2 grocery stores to choose from, good restaurants, even more Starbucks so much more promotional opportunities for me, and they have a parrot rescue in town I can volunteer at! IF I do kit out a slightly sound proofed basement birdy haven, Gareth has given me the OK to foster parrots, in addition to getting the Green Wing I want in the future. So if that sounds good to y'all, then I'm super excited, because fostering big, aggressive or problem parrots is something I would love to do, I'm not scared of taking a bite and LOVE LOVE LOVE working with the hard or hopeless cases and winning them over. The thought of helping rehabilitate a problem parrot and helping find them a forever home warms my heart and is a dream 'job' for me. I want to breed, but the guilt I would feel about ensuring the babies get a stable, forever home is too great, and I feel fostering would help fill that niche for me. I would get to work with several species and different birds like I did at the pet shop, but rather than adding to the homeless parrot problem I can help find homes for troubled birds.

What do you all think?? Are my dreams realistic? haha



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Sounds like you've got a lot of plans!

Firstly, I use tubular heaters on the indoor compartments of my aviaries, other than that they suck it up and deal with it We get snow etc. and they don't seem to mind at all!

Putting them in the basement doesn't sound like a bad idea at all! You've nailed it with the full spectrum lighting so I don't think that windows are a necessity (they don't help anyway haha!). I'm sure providing they had loads to be getting on with they wouldn't need the extras

One thing is if you do decide to become a foster home, make sure they're disease tested. Nothing would be more heart breaking than you taking in rescues only to find your birds have caught something off them

When do you intend on getting your green wing? It's all so exciting!

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Hi Jenny,

I'm not going to able to offer you any advice whatsover as I've lived in the tropics and sub-tropics all my life and, by choice, have never experienced really cold weather.

Then why am I replying I hear you ask? I just wanted to wish you all the best with the move, I can see it will be a big one, and hope it all turns out just how you see it in your mind's eye.

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Thanks guys! Daisy, probably not for a year or two, gonna have to save up some money and time it right with kids n such. Just wanna plan it right for the future birds!



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Hi Jenny,
please don't be afraid of cold weather in Washington!
It's very easy to keep the birds warm and cosy.
My idea for making the heater bird safe is putting Poroton bricks on it. These are bricks with holes for building energy saving houses. I just bought a few of them in a do it yourself market and painted them with wall color.



What else you really need is a humidifier, otherwise the humidity will fall to about 30% in winter, and that is impossible for parrots.
You can choose between different types of tools, just look on ebay!

What I honestly would never do is to keep birds in a room without daylight.
They would never see the sun, trees and plants and the birds outside.
My guys love to watch the sunset and talk to the IRNs outside.

And nothing happens when you open the window in winter for 5 minutes to get fresh air. It won't harm them, they have feathers.
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Well if you had proper avian lighting in the basement, preferably coming from the ceiling, then it would be light all day anyway + the sun can't get through windows. In warmer weather it would be good if you could bring them outside with you, but then I'm sure I've seen Goober on a harness outside anyway? That or I'm going crazy

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Haha, yes Daisy, I have taken Goober on brief forays outside in her harness. In FL, I was always too afraid of birds of prey... have heard far too many horror stories of birds being snatched off their owners. I will probably have the same fears in WA since it's so forested. She also tolerates the harness, but really doesn't enjoy it And yes, the plan is to modify it so that all the lighting in the ceiling is UV lighting with a timer to control it, so they get 8-10 hours of light. I'm hoping that will help with Goober's hormonal behavior too. I thought about also adding a UV basking spot ofr them, but don't want to overdo it ^^

Karin - that's where I feel a tad guilty with the basement. The way I feel it balances out is having the fish tanks, reptile tanks, and TV down there for their in-cage time, but during the day whenever we are home they will be upstairs with us in the living room. So window time, time with the family, etc. Right now, they have windows in their bird room but one faces the neighbors house and the other the patio with nothing really to see... I want them to have windows to see out, but everywhere we've lived there's not much to see. They don't get any UV benefits from the sunlight, since the window filters it out. The linnies are terrified of the outdoors and outdoor birds... well, Kaiko is, I should say. Whenever birds DID go by outside in FL, she panicked and would bash her wings about so I had to move them away from the window. So I feel like they may do alright down there... just not sure!



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Congratulations on your move.
'birds in the zoo are inside and are provided everything they need. Maybe you could also include plants, which would flourish in that type of environement and would also help with the humidity. Most birds can tolerate the cold very well, but I remember reading something about macaws needing either heat or humidity (i don't remember). Some birds like ringnecks and quakers can survive freezing temperatures in a temperate climate, but there are some more sensitive species. How cold do you expect it to be in the house?

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'birds in the zoo are inside and are provided everything they need. Maybe you could also include plants, which would flourish in that type of environement and would also help with the humidity. Most birds can tolerate the cold very well, but I remember reading something about macaws needing either heat or humidity (i don't remember). Some birds like ringnecks and quakers can survive freezing temperatures in a temperate climate, but there are some more sensitive species. How cold do you expect it to be in the house?
Yes, macaws need a higher humidity due to a more delicate skin and lungs. They're actually naturally allergic to dusty parrot species, so you have to be careful keeping greys or 'toos in the same home with them. I do want plants in there, I would love to have bird-safe plants and give the linnies fresh branches again. In FL, my neighbor had a huge bamboo plant and would let me take clippings to put in the cage and the linnies loved shredding them. I would expect the house to probably be in the high 60's? That's where we're most comfortable, and if it's not too expensive to maintain then that's where we would like it. Say 66-68. Which is where the house is at now in the winter here in AZ, so I know they can take that. It's more getting them acclimated to the colder end of things, once it gets into the 50's or so in the winter. I know the linnies will do well, I know of a lot of UK linnie forum members who keep them outside and they do well and in the wild they've been known to play and roll about in snow



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My budgies, cockatiels, lovies and kakarikis are all outdoors, even when it is snowing. They definitely seem to enjoy it! Kakarikis love bathing in it too

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Congrats!

The high 60's is perfect!
We keep our Linnies and Budgies around 68 degrees F. in winter and about 80 degrees F in summer. Now this last week, it was -15 degrees F. almost all the time and the wind was howling. We cover our windows and their closet door with plastic and at night put blankets over the windows to keep the rooms warmer and to cut the heating bills. We use a humidfier and give baths in the warm afternoons (they have a south window in their bedroom so it warms to about 70 mid afternoon for an hour or two.

With the proper lighting your basement sounds like it would be a perfect environment. And in a basement, it can't really get colder than 55 degrees F. below the frost line even if the heat goes out which is survivable for birds (unlike -15!)

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Hi Jenny! I do believe you have gone from Florida to Arizona, now to Washington. I'm happy for you! make sure you take your thick skins for the winters! We moved from Chicago in1975 to California and will never move. I hear Alaska has been warmer than the mid-west

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Hi Jenny! I do believe you have gone from Florida to Arizona, now to Washington. I'm happy for you! make sure you take your thick skins for the winters! We moved from Chicago in1975 to California and will never move. I hear Alaska has been warmer than the mid-west
Yes, we have always wanted to end up in the Pacific North West, and Yuma was the stepping stone to get there. You usually have to put in 2 years on the southern border, with my husbands line of work, so we've done our time and now we get to move to our dream destination!



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I haven't read the whole thread but congrats! Bellingham is a nice town. I go there most times whenever I go home (I am from BC, Canada right across the border)!

Honestly, it doesn't get that cold in Washington. I know in BC it never got colder than like -10C in the winter time. Your Birds will be fine inside the house with just the house heated.



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Thanks, Kayla! You'll have to visit me when you pop down next You're the first person I know of who's been there, did you like it? Everything we've researched is either people love it or hate it lol I keep hearing the people are snobbish, have you experienced that?



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That would be fun. ^_^
I like Bellingham to visit, lol. I've never spent more than a few hours down there to shop so I haven't really experienced full on what the people are like or the area. I love that it's close to the Ocean though, I miss that so much since I moved away!
I think you'll enjoy it If the people are anything like they are in BC near the coast you will probably run across a few snobs though, ha.



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Yeah, it's a college town and there seems to be a lot of 'hipster/hippy' types, big outdoorsy and liberal, so that generally equates into either really welcoming or really snobbish But, to me, that's everywhere. I'm not too worried about it, was just curious!



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For sure! I think you'll do fine Moving is always tough but it's an adventure! ^_^



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So Gareth now has an official start date - February 23rd! Now the house hunting begins lol once we have a house I will put in a transfer with my company and hope to find work out there! So excited! We will probably move end of March-beginning of April so I'm happy to avoid another Yuma summer at 120 degrees!



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