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Feeling Overwhelmed :(

I have to vent.

I love my birds to death, but sometimes I honestly think they are out to get me. Not Chip so much, but the cockatiels. We moved to a new apartment 3 weeks ago and Muffin has not stopped nesting ever since. I have tried to do as much hormone control as I can but it's just not working. She lays an egg about twice a week and it is super soft every time. I try giving her calcium supplements daily and have her Avian Sun Lamp on for 4 hours a day but it's still not working. She just won't stop. I have offered her fake eggs in their cage but she knows they are fake and doesn't take to them.

Chewy is the most accident prone bird I have ever seen. He hurts himself on a weekly basis by either being spooked or getting into something, like today when he got his ankle stuck in part of the cage. The other day he spooked and fell all the way down the stairs because my fiance sneezed (not kidding).

Also their calling... constantly. If we are not right next to them, they flock call constantly and it's obnoxious. They especially do it when we are on the phone so we literally have to lock ourselves in the bedroom when on the phone because otherwise we can't even hear.

Sometimes I wish I just stuck to budgies

Sorry for the rant. I really do love my birds. Just a little stressed as a bird parent right now
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Sorry you are going thru one of those times. I can totally relate. With so many pets, everything is fine when everyone is healthy and happy. But one gets in a mood or sick/hurt, and boy does the situation change. I guess that is the same with anything in life tho. It will pass.

About Muffin. Maybe the four hours of atrifcal sunlight is too much and is causing more nesting. It is more concentrated than natural sunlight. I found a website that says that using artifical sunlight has to be with a timer to ensure it comes on and off at the same time everyday so not to cause nesting behavior. Also a number of recommended hours exposure based on species size. I think it was 2-3 hours per day for cockatiel sized birds. Is she getting 12 hours of darkness, on a consistent schedule? I would remove all soft things and or paper from her cage, lessen proteins in her diet, and purchase a liquid calcium to be delivered orally when she looks like she will lay. People use this a lot on the budgie forum as it strengthens muscles to help push the egg out. Finally, let her keep the eggs for a week or two. If you remove them that could promote more laying.

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I have the light on a timer from 11am-3pm, maybe I will shorten it to maybe 12-2. I give her calcium glubionate (recommended by the vet) with a syringe once a day. I also put calciboost on their water dish once a week (I don't want to overload it because they all share a water dish. She has probably been getting about 10 hours of darkness every night, it's hard because the cage is in our living room and there is nowhere else to put her Usually she snaps out of it, but I think because she hasn't been able to lay on eggs, she still wants to have them. I wish she would just take to the fake ones but she is one smart cookie. thanks
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I have the light on a timer from 11am-3pm, maybe I will shorten it to maybe 12-2. I give her calcium glubionate (recommended by the vet) with a syringe once a day. I also put calciboost on their water dish once a week (I don't want to overload it because they all share a water dish. She has probably been getting about 10 hours of darkness every night, it's hard because the cage is in our living room and there is nowhere else to put her Usually she snaps out of it, but I think because she hasn't been able to lay on eggs, she still wants to have them. I wish she would just take to the fake ones but she is one smart cookie. thanks

Here is the website. It says 1-2 hours for cockatiels and that morning is best because that is when they would naturally be getting more sun because they are very active during this time. Maybe 10am-12? Good luck. But really, try not to worry about it. You really are doing the best you can.

http://www.parrotislandinc.com/articles/alight.htm

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Thank you for the article!!
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You said her cage is in the living room. Maybe her new cage placement is in a noisy area, TV, humans talking. Can her cage be pushed into your bedroom for at night or some where dark and quieter? I would stop using the lamp til she settles down. Also the lamp may be too close making her irritable. Tiels usually like cuttle bones for calcium. My female tiel sure did, when they need calcium they will find it. Ask your vet giving her oral medicine can also be upsetting her, you are handling her she may relate to that ( as a trigger) like wanting to mate. Just my two cents worth

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Although quite a drastic and last minute resort, have you tried having her taken to your avian vet for lupron shots? It's not something I would usually recommend but if it can help it could save her life. Kya, my white faced hen, managed to waste away thanks to very chronic egg laying. No matter what we did we couldn't stop her and they too were mushy. I tried various calcium supplements, light schedules, the usual. But if I had of even known at the time that the lupron injection existed I'd of been willing to give it a shot. I hadn't really heard much about it until fairly recently while I've been doing research and I know it's not something that should be taken lightly due to the side effects. I dunno, just giving you another option anyway! I don't wanna say do this or do that because I honestly couldn't tell you what is best for her. Personally, I'd be considering it, but I know many wouldn't

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You said her cage is in the living room. Maybe her new cage placement is in a noisy area, TV, humans talking. Can her cage be pushed into your bedroom for at night or some where dark and quieter? I would stop using the lamp til she settles down. Also the lamp may be too close making her irritable. Tiels usually like cuttle bones for calcium. My female tiel sure did, when they need calcium they will find it. Ask your vet giving her oral medicine can also be upsetting her, you are handling her she may relate to that ( as a trigger) like wanting to mate. Just my two cents worth
I can't because she shares a large flight cage with the other two birds I'm torn because I don't want to like punish the other two birds by going to bed early, and Chewy actually sleeps in a smaller cage on his own at night, but if we put him in there before bedtime he will just cry for hours. I know, they're spoiled... but I don't have any way of separating Muffin is what I'm trying to say. Also, I'm worried that if I don't give her the light (I have limited it to 2 hours per day) then she won't have any chance of absorbing the calcium I give her orally every day. This situation is such a mess!

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Although quite a drastic and last minute resort, have you tried having her taken to your avian vet for lupron shots? It's not something I would usually recommend but if it can help it could save her life. Kya, my white faced hen, managed to waste away thanks to very chronic egg laying. No matter what we did we couldn't stop her and they too were mushy. I tried various calcium supplements, light schedules, the usual. But if I had of even known at the time that the lupron injection existed I'd of been willing to give it a shot. I hadn't really heard much about it until fairly recently while I've been doing research and I know it's not something that should be taken lightly due to the side effects. I dunno, just giving you another option anyway! I don't wanna say do this or do that because I honestly couldn't tell you what is best for her. Personally, I'd be considering it, but I know many wouldn't
I have heard that from a lot of people and I am honestly considering it. Unfortunately, I have to wait until school starts and I start working again because I don't have the funds for it right now, but that might have to be my next big step in trying to help this crazy girl. thank you everyone for your advice!
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I'm glad it's something you know about already, cause I know barely anything about it nor do I know anybody personally who has had it done Fingers crossed for you though. Keeping animals really does have its ups and downs

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Sorry you're feeling stressed out.

What works 100% for me is light on 24/7

You might want to look into this product...which part of the instruction is full light for a couple days...

http://www.exoticdvm.com/releaves
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Sorry if reviving such an old thread is an issue, but I wanted to say that I know somebody who got the lupron shot for one of her birds and it did stop the egg laying, but the bird was still super nesty. It was a parrotlet, though, not a 'tiel. I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes ^u^; I really hope, though, that since this thread is so old that its been resolved!

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