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What does this forum see me as?

I'm asking this question because I feel like people think I'm a crazy psyco bird abuser person who has like no life. Is that how people here see me as? There was another person on another forum who called me a bird abuser. I'll tell you guys why she thought that in another thread but for now, am I crazy???
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I see you as a very mature bird owner, who cares very much for his birds. I know you are quite young and I think you are very knowledgeable and mature.
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Why on earth would anybody find you abusive!? You seem like a good bird owner to me! You wouldn't believe the things I've had thrown at me. Best thing to do is ignore it

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Thank you guys. I guess I will be staying here. I made this taming article on that forum and I got no replies (I also posted it here and another bird forum) and in the other I got replies so I was like "is there a reason why nobody commented on that other forum. And one of them members posted this:

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When you got someone who has abused their birds, even inadvertently, giving suggestions on training, that's really too much to stomach.
That REALLY hurt me SOO badly. I deleted that post on the first forum and requested that my account get deleted. Why would I want to be somewhere if all they think of me was an abuser. I obviously got crazy and started questioning her. You guys probably think I'm too sensitive but I was feeling depressed today so anything mean would have got me angry but saying that I abused my birds killed the life out of me.
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What a horrible response! Sheesh! What did she think you had done? Even if she thought you HAD done something (don't worry, not saying you have!!!), they have no right to call you out in front of everybody else If they have a problem with you you should be seeing messages off them, not public shaming. Sigh. When it comes to animals the internet world is a vile place at times You're more than welcome to come here!

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Thank you Daisy. Your so nice. Now members of that forum are saying that she did not call me an animal abuser but was only referring someone else calling me an animal abuser... Like I'm going to belive that?!?! I'm going to stay here and don't worry guys, as long as nobody calls me mean names I won't freak out on them. I actual love it here. People are so kind to each other. I can't imagine other forums. Yuck!
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We aim to keep it friendly! It's so sad that people can't just be nice to one another. This is why I'm reluctant to post in most places to be honest and why say it then?! If she didn't believe it...? Sigh. Some people!

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Thank you so much. You really made me feel better. Today was a blah day.
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What does this forum see me as?

You're not crazy at all.. Bird owners can be scary people. Not the Talk brand forums as much, but owning birds can be a pretty cruel environment to have an opinion. A lot of the time, its that any birds are the Holy Grail and oh my jeebus forbid, you take one step out of line in their care. I'm pretty young in this forum, and you beat me in that regard. Doesn't mean a thing. Honestly, people can get so up their own butt after awhile, apologies on term. TC is prone to it, which I'm fairly certain you've seen.

You're a great owner, something I've seen long term since before I joined either forum. Your aviary and space is something I aspired to when building mine. A couple stupid angry opinions from strangers doesn't change the fact that you care about you birds before anything else and have done what you can to their benefit. Which is something we all can physically see for ourselves. Screw em.



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What Lindsay said!

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Don't let them get to you. Forums sometimes can be a scary place. The anonymity makes some people brave and they think they can bully others or say cruel things without really having to take responsibility for what they say. They're not worth arguing with. I always admired you for your knowledge about birds and I'm sorry to say, I read your advice for training young cockatiels and I thought it was very good and I meant to say so, but was in a hurry that day and didn't. I should have posted right then thanking you for posting because I just got two cockatiels who are not hand tame and I really appreciate your advice and will be trying it. Please don't get discouraged by one person's opinion. You seem to me to be someone who truly loves and cares about your birds very much.


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Unfortunately there are many unfriendly pet forums.
And what you tell us really sounds like bashing.
The posts of these people you mentioned are totally unacceptable.
If you are very young that even makes it worse.
Please don't think you are what they tell you!

In our forum you are always friendly and polite. And there is nothing that would make people think you are a bird abuser.
If the other forum doesn't protect you against bashing and insult please don't stay there.
I hope you come over the bad incident soon.
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Thank you SOO much guys. I can't explain how much better you guys all made me feel. I don't want to seem like I'm demanding everyone to reply to my posts. I was just wondering on the other forum why people on TC were ignoring it.
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This is what I posted right after she said that rude comment

"I didn't mean to abuse my birds. I changed. I'm serious. My birds have a variety on seeds, pellets, and veggies. They are given a lot of attention daily. They have a big home outdoors. They get lots of exersize and sunlight daily. I'm not putting them in those small cages anymore. They will live in that aviary all year round. Their cages get cleaned weekly. I give it a good scrub everywhere. They get baths ones a week when is cleaning day. I don't abuse them. I even changed the whole aviary. If there's anything I'm doing that is still considering abusing please let me know so I'll change it. Maybe the only thing I do to abuse them is not bringing them to vets but that's not considered abusing. Maybe you might consider it abusing but I don't because that is not in my control. I forgot to mention that I hrow fresh herbs that I feed them. I grow millet, sunflowers, safflowers, and chia. It's not my fault that I can't take them to vets. It's my parents choice at the end no matter how much I beg. I'm sorry if I abused them before. I changed. "

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"I'm sorry Barbara but I really couldn't handle this part of your post. It knocked me down 6 feet under grown. I feel SOOOOOOOO bad. Is this what people think of me as??? An ABUSER?!?!! This has to be the last thing I needed to hear. I have been feeling sad and guilty already. This is the LAST thing I wanted to hear. I don't even want to say how I feel right now but I just want to let you guys know that I wont be on any social place online for a good while until they know I don't exist. I PM'd Roxy telling her to delete my account. I deleted that thread I made on TC."
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Thank you SOO much guys. I can't explain how much better you guys all made me feel. I don't want to seem like I'm demanding everyone to reply to my posts. I was just wondering on the other forum why people on TC were ignoring it.
I'm new to TC myself, but I've noticed they don't seem to answer posts a lot there. My first post I asked a question about something as I'm brand new to tiels and I had to ask a second time and only one person answered me. Dont feel too bad, it just seems like that's how that forum is.


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TC is very cliquey... Your either in and get lots of replies or your new and not in so get ignored! There are also a few unbending people there... I tend to ignore them.
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I completely agree with you. I have learned over the course of being in forums is that if it doesn't make you happy, don't waist your time there. This is my new home. People here rock!
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I often wonder what this forum sees me as as well. It is so weird that persons comment about you. It doesn't seem to have any merit whatsoever. Some people are so rude online just because they can be and are most likely cowards in real life.

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I often wonder what this forum sees me as as well. It is so weird that persons comment about you. It doesn't seem to have any merit whatsoever. Some people are so rude online just because they can be and are most likely cowards in real life.
I personally see all our regulars as very caring kind helpful people, the nasty ones never stay long once they are told we do not tolerate rudeness... I don't always comment cuz a lot of times I just pop in for a few minutes and then when I have time to come back, I forget.
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It also depends a lot on the management of the forums. Here and on Talk Budgies the staff will not tolerate posts of that kind. I am a mod on TB and a member here and I know that on TB we will not tolerate verbal bashing like that at all and it is the same here. Also some people don't realize they are coming over as being harsh as without being in a face to face conversation with a person it is hard to tell if they are being nasty or just don't express themselves well in the written form.

Also on TB we have many people who have cockatiels and ask us questions about them rather than on TC because of bad experiences they have had on TC. Some of them don't even have budgies at all.

You have to do what is right for you and what is possible for you considering your age restrictions. I try not to judge people too harshly for anything as I don't know their situation well enough unless I know them personally, and even then you don't know everything about their life or what they are dealing with. They may be like me and have severe health restrictions and if things get behind you just have to live with it and fix it once you are feeling more able to do it.

Keep doing what you are doing. Your tiels all look very healthy and happy. I have had a lot to do with tiels over the years and only lost my last tiel last year at the age of 19 and I have hand raised a couple of hundred of them over that period of time. I used to hand raise them for other people who could not do it themselves and they wouldn't have kept asking me to do it if I had been doing something wrong.
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