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Rat problem
I have at least 5 6 holes where my birds are
Right now i put poison in the holes and buried them back up but i might try rat zapper
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Try to clean up as much food that your birds drop as possible. We used to get mice from the birds dropping their food on the floor, its a free meal isn't it? We had to double up the mesh and everything to stop them getting near the birds. Scary stuff! Just make sure that poison cannot be accessed by your fabies, though you have blocked it up which is very good. Do you have a cat? I'm sure you do... Let him/her have some fun down there with the ratties haha!

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Try to clean up as much food that your birds drop as possible. We used to get mice from the birds dropping their food on the floor, its a free meal isn't it? We had to double up the mesh and everything to stop them getting near the birds. Scary stuff! Just make sure that poison cannot be accessed by your fabies, though you have blocked it up which is very good. Do you have a cat? I'm sure you do... Let him/her have some fun down there with the ratties haha!
The only thing i seen my cat catch was a mole. These rats are prolly as big as her!
I was feeding them in the evening which since they come out at night im gonna just feed them in the morning. My birds that is.

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for starters did you fill the holes with steel wool? if not the rats will just make new holes through what ever you filled them with. please keep an eye on your birds make sure the poison you put out out is really good stuff. i lost Grace because of a rat and i do not want to see another person lose their baby.

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Lisa, I never knew! What happened if you don't mind me asking!?

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a rat got into grace cage it was after her seed the cage had bar spacing no bigger than my 9 year old daughter could put her finger between the rat was bigger than grace when it seen me and grace got a look at it she started flying around i tried to save her. i was going to try to get her out without let the rat out but as soon as i got to the cage grace landed on the floor of the cage and the rat bite her neck my husband shot the rat with a bb gun and got grace out she died in my hands. i have not figured out how that big rat got in the cage with her and the bars so close together. it all happen so quick and even though my husband kept telling me there was nothing i could do u still feel like there was something i could have done. if i had just been quicker and reached in and got her out no matter if i would have gotten bite myself or not i feel i could have saved her. a day does not go by i think this and i pray no one ever has to go through this and think if.

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That is so sad You had never said on here so I couldn't of guessed what happened. I knew she passed away, but unless I was missing it somewhere I don't think you had spoke about it. How heart breaking that must of been for you. Stupid rat (I LOVE pet rats, but wild rats just ruin everything! Such as the plague) I'm so sad now! I really can't imagine how scary and horrible it would of been. Rats can fit into the smallest of places, they're like furry octopi

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any time my birds flap or make noise i run to check on them i am so scared another rat is going to show up again and get in with one of my birds

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Rats can get through a space less than 2cm wide. And they are predatory carnivors and would much rather have a nice tasty bird than the seed. They will eat the seed if there is nothing else. I am pretty sure at the moment there is a worldwide rat and mouse plague. I know there certainly is in Australia and I heard there was one in Florida at the moment.

I am having all sorts of fun getting rid of them at the moment. They come up the storm water drains and as we have had alot of rain here and they don't like getting wet we have more coming up than normal. I live in a semi rural area and they access the drains that runs into the creek. My dogs just got a big one last night. All my aviaries are on concrete slabs and I put broken glass under the concrete when we laid it. They can't chew through glass but they can chew through everything else. I have even seen them chew through over 2 inches of concrete to get into an aviary but not if there was broken glass under it.

Being on a pension I found poison very very expensive and rats are smart. They can remember smells and they basically say to each other, don't eat that Fred ate some the other day and died, and they won't touch it. What I have found to be much cheaper and very effective is using Plaster of Paris Powder. I mix drinking chocolate powder into that and put it where my other animals can't get at it but the rats can. They get thirsty and go and have a drink and get terminal constipation from it. Then if one of my dogs or the cat get hold of a body or sick one the only thing that happens is they get a boost of calcium. The same for the raptors and owls around me, it doesn't harm them either. Plaster of Paris is very cheap and a little goes a long way and I just use a generic drinking chocolate powder, much cheaper than poison and they don't seem to get put off by it.

Another hint I got on Friday night was get a plastic shopping bag, put some poison in that (only about a tablespoon of powder or pellets) and put some peanut butter on top of the poison, grab the bag and work the peanut butter into the poison and scrunch it up. Put it where other animals can't get at it. Rats like to chew through boxes or bags and will chew into it and get the bait. The peanut butter masks the smell. You can do the same thing but use melted chocolate, rats just love peanut butter or chocolate.

I have absolutely no problem killing rats. They are nasty horrible things and the only good one is a dead one.
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Rats can get through a space less than 2cm wide. And they are predatory carnivors and would much rather have a nice tasty bird than the seed. They will eat the seed if there is nothing else. I am pretty sure at the moment there is a worldwide rat and mouse plague. I know there certainly is in Australia and I heard there was one in Florida at the moment.

I am having all sorts of fun getting rid of them at the moment. They come up the storm water drains and as we have had alot of rain here and they don't like getting wet we have more coming up than normal. I live in a semi rural area and they access the drains that runs into the creek. My dogs just got a big one last night. All my aviaries are on concrete slabs and I put broken glass under the concrete when we laid it. They can't chew through glass but they can chew through everything else. I have even seen them chew through over 2 inches of concrete to get into an aviary but not if there was broken glass under it.

Being on a pension I found poison very very expensive and rats are smart. They can remember smells and they basically say to each other, don't eat that Fred ate some the other day and died, and they won't touch it. What I have found to be much cheaper and very effective is using Plaster of Paris Powder. I mix drinking chocolate powder into that and put it where my other animals can't get at it but the rats can. They get thirsty and go and have a drink and get terminal constipation from it. Then if one of my dogs or the cat get hold of a body or sick one the only thing that happens is they get a boost of calcium. The same for the raptors and owls around me, it doesn't harm them either. Plaster of Paris is very cheap and a little goes a long way and I just use a generic drinking chocolate powder, much cheaper than poison and they don't seem to get put off by it.

Another hint I got on Friday night was get a plastic shopping bag, put some poison in that (only about a tablespoon of powder or pellets) and put some peanut butter on top of the poison, grab the bag and work the peanut butter into the poison and scrunch it up. Put it where other animals can't get at it. Rats like to chew through boxes or bags and will chew into it and get the bait. The peanut butter masks the smell. You can do the same thing but use melted chocolate, rats just love peanut butter or chocolate.

I have absolutely no problem killing rats. They are nasty horrible things and the only good one is a dead one.

I might half to try the plaster of paris since this poisons only going to go so far before they out smart it. My shed isnt concreted. Its dirt but theres big pieces of wood as a flooring.
About a year ago i had a mouse problem now its rats. The only things by me is feilds.
I dont have a problem killing rodents! This is radiculas i guess it could be worse it could be raccoons. :/

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The wood floor is not going to stop them they will just chew straight through. If they can chew through concrete then wood is not even going to slow them down. If I was you I would try to concrete the floor even if you have to move your birds into cages and bring them inside for a few days until the concrete sets. You should be able to buy bags of ready mix concrete (one where you only have to add water and mix) the instructions are on the bags. Save any bottles you have and smash them and put them on the dirt before you lay the wet concrete. You only need a piece of flat wood to spread it and level it. It isn't that hard. You just need something to mix it in and a shovel, we used a wheel barrow and then wash it out before the remains of the concrete set, the shovel as well. Mix the concrete with the shovel then shovel it into the shed.

When I was setting up my aviaries I got my cement in a truck but it all had to be wheel barrowed into my back yard. We just set out the formwork to keep the cement in place. Once the cement was set I erected the aviaries (they were prefabricated and just had to be screwed together)
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Oh I hate rats! And yes only good rat is a dead one!
I got professional help last time. I got them in the aviary a few months back.
Boarded up the hole, then put fine wire over it. Filled every other space with wire wool and poisoned under the sheds.
Never saw one but their dropping stink.
For dirt floor, you can dig down and put thin wire mesh down, say 1cm square.
Make sure its up the sides too. It'll have to be replaced annually as it'll rust.
Good luck.

Kate, some great tips, I think I'll try the plaster of Paris on the mice!
I don't know how the get in!

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if you have cats, poison is not ideal, i would definately go with kate's suggestion. by chance your cat catches a poisoned rat, your cat can get poisoned too... same for dogs, ive seen dogs eat rats.



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Rats can get through a space less than 2cm wide. And they are predatory carnivors and would much rather have a nice tasty bird than the seed. They will eat the seed if there is nothing else. I am pretty sure at the moment there is a worldwide rat and mouse plague. I know there certainly is in Australia and I heard there was one in Florida at the moment.

I am having all sorts of fun getting rid of them at the moment. They come up the storm water drains and as we have had alot of rain here and they don't like getting wet we have more coming up than normal. I live in a semi rural area and they access the drains that runs into the creek. My dogs just got a big one last night. All my aviaries are on concrete slabs and I put broken glass under the concrete when we laid it. They can't chew through glass but they can chew through everything else. I have even seen them chew through over 2 inches of concrete to get into an aviary but not if there was broken glass under it.

Being on a pension I found poison very very expensive and rats are smart. They can remember smells and they basically say to each other, don't eat that Fred ate some the other day and died, and they won't touch it. What I have found to be much cheaper and very effective is using Plaster of Paris Powder. I mix drinking chocolate powder into that and put it where my other animals can't get at it but the rats can. They get thirsty and go and have a drink and get terminal constipation from it. Then if one of my dogs or the cat get hold of a body or sick one the only thing that happens is they get a boost of calcium. The same for the raptors and owls around me, it doesn't harm them either. Plaster of Paris is very cheap and a little goes a long way and I just use a generic drinking chocolate powder, much cheaper than poison and they don't seem to get put off by it.

Another hint I got on Friday night was get a plastic shopping bag, put some poison in that (only about a tablespoon of powder or pellets) and put some peanut butter on top of the poison, grab the bag and work the peanut butter into the poison and scrunch it up. Put it where other animals can't get at it. Rats like to chew through boxes or bags and will chew into it and get the bait. The peanut butter masks the smell. You can do the same thing but use melted chocolate, rats just love peanut butter or chocolate.

I have absolutely no problem killing rats. They are nasty horrible things and the only good one is a dead one.
Kate... THANK YOU. This morning I heard a chewing noise! It was another damn mouse!

I gotta try that!

Once I get rid of the mice, they COME back!!! I think they live in the walls!
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