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Ok, so I have this one friend who comes over once in a while. Sometimes she wants to hang with the birds and she wants to handel them.

I do try telling her no. But, I need help trying to get through to her head that I don't want to mess with my female tiel and male tiel who share a cage together currently (ziva and pumpkin) since ziva seems happy and content as a pet bird. Pumpkin seems to seem happy like that as well.

I really don't want to get agrivated around that any more either with her. I really would like to hear advice on that. I know my keets also seem happy and content as pets as well.

Though, I am going to be trying with Sketch to see if he/she wishes to be hand tamed of course. If Sketch just show's signs of happyness as being a pet bird. How do I tell my real friend in actual life No, they can't be handeled at all.

I do try telling her from tonight that I don't really want to be handeling pumkin later or that he shouldn't be handled cause he is getting older. My gran isn't wanting him handled much either.


She also brings up about them having little onese if I were to ever breed them and I'm like. That's in the future, and who know's maybe I might change my mind on that.

And I really don't want my tiels bothered by another person but me but, why is it when I give the firm NO, to someone it just back fires. I would love all the help that I can get. Even MY gran isn't wanting pumpkin messed with or ziva messed with.

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I know how you feel about it, when my friends come over they are all excited: "Ooh, let the birds out, I want to hold them!" I tell them its not the best idea.
Then when I used to give in & let them out, they fly around & my friends get freaked out.
I never let friends or family handle them (unless they are my immidiate family member.)
Some people just don't understand birds & their owners, you have a right to say no to her


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Tell them that they've been cranky lately and will bite That tends to work. No one ever wants to handle Goober because she WILL bite people she doesn't know, and because of that no one touches any of my birds now lol



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Tell them that they've been cranky lately and will bite That tends to work. No one ever wants to handle Goober because she WILL bite people she doesn't know, and because of that no one touches any of my birds now lol
I will try that though, I do tell her that, they've been cranky and the night before we did have a fright where my one female tiel ziva accidently broke a blood feather some where on her wing. But, that's one of the reasons why I told her no they couldn't come out then ended up saying if pumpkins acting sweet but I know when he's a pain and it's usually when she's there. Next time she comes over I could also white lie and say they've been nippy (even though pumpkin rearely bites hard like ziva does at times) I could just say he nearly broke skin that day cause of how agrivated he is that day chuckles.

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See, people have seen Goober be nasty... if she decides she doesn't like someone or if they ignore her? She'll "fly" off her playstand in their general direction. I don't know what she would do if she got there, but they assume it's bite so they take me seriously when I say to be careful lol



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See, people have seen Goober be nasty... if she decides she doesn't like someone or if they ignore her? She'll "fly" off her playstand in their general direction. I don't know what she would do if she got there, but they assume it's bite so they take me seriously when I say to be careful lol
True and pumpkin has the play nip bite. I learned today that Sketch does bite but, she doesn't bite to where she'll break skin. I had her out for a bit today to try and clip her wings to try taming her mildy. May have to do so in the cage where she know's she's in her safe zone. Since She manages to escape the easyest barely wrapped towl. Where I had a hold of her so that she could be scritched for a bit by momma though, she did seem to enjoy it. Sketch did try biting me but, I told her no and she'd stop and go back to biting the towl. Couldn't get a good hold of her wings was afraid she'd take off if I did

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I find that many people who have not been around birds will say they want to hold a bird, then, when the bird tries to step on them, they pull back and/or squeal. It happens often, so it shouldn't surprise me, but sometimes it still does.

I've learned with my students at school to just hold their hands when I'm letting them see Stanley or Elisa. I hang onto the hand/arm they are offering the bird so they can't jerk back and drop the birds.

I hope to take Daisy to school this year, too. I haven't started taking anyone yet because things are still not well organized at school because we've moved buildings and reorganized.

It is difficult to deal with persistent friends who won't take no for an answer. Is this a friend who is older than you are, perhaps a friend of your mom or grandmother? Even someone older than you should respect your wishes for your own birds in your own home, but sometimes older people think they don't have to listen to younger people.

I would suggest being firm in what you will or will not allow with this particular friend. Talk to your mom and grandmother now, before the friend returns, and decide between the three of you what is safe and comfortable for the birds and for the three of you. The next time the friend visits, enforce whatever it is the three of you have decided. If the friend is their friend, they may have to speak up, too. If the three of you later decide to allow more handling once the birds are better with it, that is fine, but just be certain you all three agree to that before the friend arrives. If this friend is used to "talking you into things", the friend has learned to keep trying until he/she gets what he/she wants.


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Oh belive me I already came up with an come out plan. I plan on telling her next time she comes over i'l ltell her that they were already out that day. make a white lie. So they won't come out agian. I keep telling her every time she comes over, no I dont want to take them out no no no. Doesn't get through her head tho.

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