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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-14-2013, 01:20 PM Thread Starter


 
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So on Friday (the 8th) I was out with Mike and we were in Walmart and I was picking up bedding for my KSB.
Anyways, somehow the topic of Parrots came up and Mike just blurted that he never wants to have a bird again. I was kind of shocked.
I explained to him that I wanted to eventually get an African Grey when we got a bigger house.
I was surprised because Mike loved Hermes!
We talked and I explained to Mike that said African Grey would be out 50% of the day (only in it's cage to sleep basically) but then Mike asked how that would work with the Cats.
This got me thinking that having birds again is going to be more difficult than I thought.
Any smaller Parrots (like Budgies or 'Tiels) I think I would have to have in an aviary which definitely won't work in Edmonton as it gets WAY too cold in the winter.
As for a larger Parrot I don't know how to make that work unless the Cats got bitten and learned to stay away. But I wouldn't want that to happen because I don't want the Parrot to get scratched.
Bleh, I don't know. Ideas? Lol
I really don't know how my Cats would be with a larger Parrot. They act pretty predatory when they see birds outside through the window but when we had Hermes there was one time that Mike was taking Hermes downstairs but Hermes took off and landed on the floor in between the two Cats and they just sat there staring at Hermes.
So confused! I wouldn't want my Grey to be an aviary bird but I don't know how I would make this work!



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ummm.... i really have no idea how you would have any bird with cats but i do not have cats i have dogs my dogs are outside when my birds are out or in a different room. the only thing i know would be to lock the cats in a separate room. the thing is greys can become nervous birds they will also pluck if stressed or not getting enough attention maybe someone else will have a better idea

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I have dogs (5) and cats (2) and frankly I never worry about the cats. They've been trained to ignore the birds and they've never once shown the slightest interest in them.

The dogs... The only one I worry about is the standard poodle, not because she's predatory, but because she's like a wild colt when she gets worked up and might accidentally squish the linnies. So, I don't let the linnies out with her, but they are fine with all the others. I'm not sure why some people think you can train parrots, but not cats and dogs.

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I'm wondering because I would want the Grey to be out most of the day and I couldn't have the Grey locked in a separate room all day or have the Cats locked away all day, that just wouldn't be fair to either party.
When we had Hermes and we had him living on the kitchen table for a while the Cats left him alone 90% of the time. The other 10% of the time they just sat on the table/near the table and watched him and they would leave if we shooed them away. They never acted predatory around him but it might have been because he was in his cage. I dunno
When we buy our house eventually I want to have a room just for my Reptiles and Birds but I don't want that to be the only room that the Grey ever sees.
Our Cats are currently only 1 and 5 years old so they have a long time to live too so there is no way I'm waiting until they are passed away to get another Parrot, lol.



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Can the grey not be in a room that you spend most of your time in? Or are the cats in there too. I had Malibu, my LSC2, out all of the time almost all day ever day and although I would shoo my cats away they never actually caused any harm. They'd be interested if there was a flutter but mostly from smaller birds. It can work, I think most of us on here have a cat haha! Dogs are another worry, but I know you posted on your page that you didn't have her anymore. I think it's your call really. Jack doesn't want us to have birds again but there's no chance in hell that I can ALWAYS stick to that. I will have them outside whether he likes it or not but I may have a very special bird coming to live with me in the near future and for now he's going to have to stay at my grandparents. The said bird will have an outdoor aviary too. Can you not have an enormous cage for your grey? Like one of the double macaw cages? That way you'd be able to give him plenty of room, toys etc. without having to worry too much. I also think greys are probably one of the best birds for entertaining themselves. It;s up to you really
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My friend has had her Grey for 13 yrs. When her dog was getting old she got a couple cats. Paco's cage is in the kitchen with a stand near the table. They have never had a problem. Paco just gives the cats that "look" so they know not to mess with him. A grey's size is pretty impressive even I don't like to get too close.

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Thanks for the input guys!
Daisy, I do have our spare room which I spend a good amount of time in but in this house it is just way too small. Once we buy a house (eventually) I will demand a room for JUST my Reptiles and Birds, lol.
The plan was to get the Grey as big a cage as I can and stuff it full of fun stuff. :P I was also considering getting a Caique because they are less dusty and they are super good at entertaining themselves too.
I think the Cats would be fine if the Grey's cage was in the main part of the house especially since they would probably be intimidated by such as large Bird. Plus they are chickens, lol. They don't like to incite my wrath and if they know I'm angry they run, ha. I can usually leave the Gecko room door open when I'm in there and they will come right up to the doorway but won't cross that threshold because they know I'll get mad at them. I have no doubt I could train them to stay well away from a Parrot.



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my cat never tries to prey on my cockatiels. i'd imagine a grey would be even more intimidating for a cat.

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Definitely! Even when I had my 'Tiel and Budgies the Cats never acted like they were hunting the Birds. Yes they were interested in them, especially the Budgies because they were all over the place, lol.



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Jellybean is out on his cage most of the day or on his play stand. Our cat does stalk him from the ground, or from a distance. If she could figure it out I am sure she would try to eat him. We never have him out with out one of us in the room for security. We shoo her away when we notice her giving him the eye. So far so good. I honestly think Jellybean would do her more harm if he got close, his beak is a real danger.

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That's what I was thinking, if the Cats DID decide to try to get the Parrot I wouldn't want the Cats to get bitten and I wouldn't want the Parrot to get bitten or scratched. Huge Vet bills are not fun!



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Kayla my 4 birds are in a small spare room my hubby added a screen door while leaving the solid door in place. I share the room with the birds (computer etc.) so I'm in here often. I have 9 inside only cats. My birds can be out as much as I want when I'm in the room or out because I can see in or know they are still safe if I'm out of the house as well. Where there is a will there is a way the saying goes

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That's an awesome idea! We couldn't do that in this house as it's a rental and the Military Housing Association is really anal when it comes to doing modifications.
But this would be an awesome idea for when we buy a house. The only think I'd wonder about is if a Grey would try and chew through the screen!



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You could always ask. The door comes off when you move. A little touch up on the door frame is all that will be needed. We didn't take the solid door off. Another friend of mine screened in their patio to put their birds out there on play stands for fresh air and change of scenery. There Grey,large cockatoo, conure and two tiels made no attempt to chew through the screens.

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There is definitely no room in this house for a large cage right now so there really isn't even a point right now to ask about putting a screen door on the spare room entrance.



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