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Anyone have Caique experience?

These birds intrigue me but I don't really know anything about them, so can you tell me how they are as pets?

Is there a difference in behavior depends on the head color? (black, white, yellow)

Do they get along with other birds in the household? (like cockatiels and budgies)

Are they aggressive?

Is there a difference in male/female pet behavior?

I would love to get a senegal some day, but after seeing some videos about these guys I think it might be a close race between the two species!

This is not going to happen anytime soon, but I would love to learn about them, thanks!

p.s. this is a specific video that may have me hooked! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DIMJ2eENow
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In my experience there's no difference between colors or sexes. They are the "wild child" of the parrot family. They are always on the go.

They can get worked up and be a bit pinchy, but in my experience they are just a lot of fun and very busy.

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Oh my gosh, Jill! That is adorable!! Now I want one too!!!!


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would you say they are similar in personality to like a green cheek conure? (considering you're comparing a hand fed baby from either species)
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The only bird I think I could compare them to is a lory/lorikeet. They can be extremely aggressive but at the same time what appears to be aggression is usually just playing rough. I certainly wouldn't have them around other birds, out of their cages anyway. And I'd cover other birds cages while they're out. They're not very big either, but they don't know that

I believe there are 5 species of caique. The black capped and its subspecies, the pallid, and the white bellied and the 2 subspecies which are green thighed and yellow tailed. On the market you don't usually see subspecies but sometimes a green thighed comes up

I don't think the sexes or species make much difference to be honest, it's not unusual to see people keeping one of each! I do recommend keeping two together if you do decide to get one. I do think with the current birds you have now though a Senegal would fit in a bit more

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My experience with them is the black capped tend to be a bit more reserved, the white belled more boisterous. However, that's a massive generalization as you all know Each bird is unique! I've seen phobic white bellied and aggressive black caps. Generally, they are like the energizer bunny - hop hop hop, play play play! They need a much larger cage proportionally to their size so they have room to destroy all you give them, a lot of hands on time too! They are one of the few species that, generally, can be kept in pairs and do better and remain super tame. Giving them another caique to run about with keeps them busy! However, all that energy can channel into aggression. They tend towards bossiness and being nippy if they don't expend the energy. Worst bites in my life? Caiques

All that said? They are amazing birds, I would love to have one in my life. I absolutely adore their boisterous personalities and how much zest for life they have! Just search youtube for caique jump or caique bounce and they will win your heart haha



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Wow, I'm just dying watching that video! So. Darn. CUTE! Love the music that goes with it! I don't have much experience with caiques, but I was badly bitten by one during my time at the Sugarcreek Bird Farm. The bird held on and would NOT let go. It was one of my worst bites.




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Just be ready for very hands-on They're almost like a puppy, or kitten... you can man-handle them and they love it! I have heard people say they are hard to read, simply because their behavior seems aggressive but they just want to wrestle and play. Daisy, I think you nailed it spot on with comparing them to lorikeets, that's the closest thing energy and play wise! Here's another adorable video to show how they play and wrestle, it's so cute!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6UrdzGc5-4



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I almost think it should be a rule that you have two :-)

On another forum there's a couple that have 4. I can't even imagine the chaos.

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I have no caique experience, but I feel that I should chime in due to having spoken extensively with a few people that do have them.

Their good qualities seem to be that they are playful, loving, crazy in a charming way (if you're into that, haha), very hands-on, interactive, goofy, and adorable.

However, they can be VERY challenging. It's common for them to become "Jekyll and Hyde" birds once maturity hits...could be that captivity is just very difficult for them when faced with hormonal urges. This could apply to almost any parrot, but I've heard it said about caiques in particular. A couple of people tell me that their caiques have actually stalked them aggressively. And their bites are supposedly very, very nasty.

The impression that I get is that they are very complicated birds, and that despite their charming and funny nature, along with their small size, they need to be taken very seriously. Simply put, they can be a bit nuts! lol.
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thanks everyone!! the videos of them are so fun to watch
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I have no caique experience, but I feel that I should chime in due to having spoken extensively with a few people that do have them.

Their good qualities seem to be that they are playful, loving, crazy in a charming way (if you're into that, haha), very hands-on, interactive, goofy, and adorable.

However, they can be VERY challenging. It's common for them to become "Jekyll and Hyde" birds once maturity hits...could be that captivity is just very difficult for them when faced with hormonal urges. This could apply to almost any parrot, but I've heard it said about caiques in particular. A couple of people tell me that their caiques have actually stalked them aggressively. And their bites are supposedly very, very nasty.

The impression that I get is that they are very complicated birds, and that despite their charming and funny nature, along with their small size, they need to be taken very seriously. Simply put, they can be a bit nuts! lol.
Yes, that can be very true. Like many birds, once they hit maturity there's the risk they go a little... crazy. Caiques are very much birds that live in extremes. If I remember correctly, they are one of the few parrot species that mate just for the fun of it, so I can see how that hormonal mating urge could easily go into overdrive. I can definitely say that the vicious ones are the most devious, determined biters out there. We had a particularly nasty one at the pet shop when I started that eventually was traded in to a breeder for a baby, because there was no way it would be a pet. We gave her out of cage time, but she decided she hated me on my first day and stalked me every time I walked by the tree stand and then jumped onto the back of my jeans (basically on my butt ) and started climbing me to attack my face. I blocked her with a towel, but one day she did nab me and gave me the worst bite I've ever gotten and quite the scar. She sent one coworker to the hospital for stripping her finger to the bone and fracturing the bone, which I've never seen in my time with birds, even with large macaw bites!

But, for me, the good outweighs the bad on these tikes, but I would definitely get them as a pair and get a same-sex pair so there's no breeding. My dream is a team of brothers I almost took home a pair of boys I hand raised, but a customer bought them together and 5 years later they are still amazing pets for her. I think the biggest catch is giving them a productive outlet for their energy, and that's not easy to do. I would be willing to bet that's where many of the behavioral problems begin with these birds and then they just spiral out of control from there



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I love Caiques but I don't think I can keep up with one.. all these posts have confirmed it


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I agree Si!! unless I was in a financially stable situation where I didn't have to work (because hubbs is bringing home the bacon ) I'll stick with my cockatiels and EB for now...
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My good friend has one, white bellied. She has had him for something like 7 years? It is true that he is very assertive, bossy, and can be man handled, loves to wrestle, a complete clown, and loves to snuggle inside the collars of their shirts and sleep there before going to bed. He is very attached to his humans. Wants to be out immediately when anyone is home or he yells, and is pretty darn loud. Destructive too, he has damaged a lot of wood in their house. But they are crazy about this bird! He talks a little, about 10 words or so. They had an unrelated white bellied female (not for breeding) and they got along well. The first female was reserved, and more shy. They had her for 4 years and left for lunch one day, came back and she was dead. They had the necrosopy done and it was pretty much not conclusive. The vet guessed maybe she had inhaled something, but the other caique was fine and they were caged together. Her male has also gotten severely sick on multiple occasions. Cost them thousands of dollars, some where around 6k over his lifetime. During one of the times, they had to give him injections into the chest for weeks or months. It was horrible but he completely recovered. It just made me feel that they aren't very hardy.

About 6-8 months after the female died, they adopted another female friend for him. He absolutely hated her! She was a very loving bird and not as reserved as the first female, but after several months they had to rehome her to a guy that wanted a caique very badly because the two just hated each other completely. I think they are iffy with other birds. They have since decided they won't get another one due to the fact that he just might not be very good at getting along with others. Her male is about the size of a sun conure.
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I've had a grand total of several hour's experience with a white-bellied caique at the bird shelter I volunteered for. The little guy was awesome; he was always on the move and loved to play and swing from my fingers and stuff. He was very "beaky" though. But I'd probably agree caiques are kind of a "Jekyll and Hyde" type of bird. Well, either the one I worked with was a little bipolar or he just liked to play rough.
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Remind me a bit of lories with the playing rough part.




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While I love my caique, I would never purchase one again. My caique is a male Black Headed Caique who just turned 6 in December. For the late year or so, he has been very aggressiveness at times and he changes temperament on a dime. He can be sitting on your shoulder surfing anf the next minute he will be attacking you. I have to use a towel to get him out of his cage and sometimes off my shoulder or his playgym. He seems to have decided my husband is his friend now and not me, but he can still turn on my husband also. I have never trusted him around my other birds, as several people have told me their caique have killed other birds. Even breeder birds and cage mates turning on each other after being together for several years. They are beautiful and interesting birds, but just to many mood swings. I have mine out on his playgym when my other birds are out on theirs, but his is across the room and I never leave them all alone, just in case. He also hates my son and when he visits I have to have the caique in his cage or he will seek out and viciously attack my son and anyone, even my husband or myself, if we try to stop him.
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I also have heard about the Jekyll and Hyde personalities of caiques. I have heard that they will stalk and attack people or pets if they are displeased. and if they take a dislike to you then you are viciously attacked for no reason. Also if they are wound up when playing it can turn into aggression quickly... they are gorgeous and very entertaining, but not a bird for me!
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