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Red face Cockatoos....?

Yes, here I am again asking about cockatoos

I am only asking again because my dream too is back on Craigslist again and he is perfect... Annnd I still have no chance of getting one.

I have done a lot of research on cocoatoos, macaws, and greys and I still have a few more questions about too's

What kind of harness could you get a too? Other than the aviator harness, I have also seen Feather Tether harnesses.

Can too's be in the same room with smaller birds like parakeets? ( because of their screaming)

Is their anyway to lessen the screaming though it is a natural thing?

How do you keep them busy during the school/work day? Music, toys, food?

What is the correct way to dicipline them if they do something wrong? I read that putting them in a cage time out might be too delayed and they might no know the connection between the bad behavior and the time out. I also read that you have have them step up multiple times, but I don't see the resoning behind it.

What is an average cage size for the large too's andthe lesser too's?

What diet do you feed your too?

What are pros and cons of you cockatoo?

Is bad behaior always a problem or is there such thing as a near perfect cockatoo?

What are some things I should know (other than the cost and time and obvious things like that )

I will probably have more later. Beter to know this stuff before I got one than after!

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1) I don't recommend the other harnesses, especially not with a cockatoo. An aviator would be the safest method

2) I don't recommend it. Malibu HATED small birds and I know of other toos who are the exact same. You'd have to cover him while the budgies were out

3) They'll scream in the morning and evening, no doubt about it. But screaming is usually because they're bored, sick or want something if they're being consistent

4) Toys and lots of them! Foraging is always best for them, things that make their minds work

5) If Malibu would do something I disliked such as constantly screaming, I would ignore it (say I was eating and he wanted some so he would scream). If he bit me I would put him down. If he was being uncooperative I'd turn my back on him. You have to be very quick though!

6) Go as large as you can. I believe that macaw sized cages work best if you're going to be at school and such

7) Chop + fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds etc. Keep it low fat!

8) They can go from sweetest bird on the planet to you ending up in A&E with a wound in the blink of an eye

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This is great info! now what do you mean by "put him down if he bites"?

And are pellets included in their diet? (what brands do you use for seed, pellets, and treats?)


More questions!
Is it true that larger parrots give warning nips and the smaller parrots are the ones to clamp down?

How do you share the love between bonded parrots? Let's say I had a bonded conure (I wish!) and then I got a cockatoo that also bonded with me. The chances of them getting along would be slim, so how would I spend sime with both including being in the same room with one caged bird and one with me? If anything I would be getting a conure first seeming that they have the same cuddly personality and I want to work my way up to larger breeds rather than going from keets to cockatoos.

How do you cope with the screaming? I was thinking ear plugs or ear muffs!

If you have a snuggly too who is affectionate, how often do they bite and do they bite randomly or do they bite for a reason?

Are they really great birds to have? Would you say they you couldn't live without one despite the screaming? I know I couldnt live without my flock!

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This is great info! now what do you mean by "put him down if he bites"?
Not euthenase him I hope?

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No, no, no... She means place him on a stand or on the floor or in his cage!.... Maybe set him down would of been a better choice of words...lol
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No, no, no... She means place him on a stand or on the floor or in his cage!.... Maybe set him down would of been a better choice of words...lol
I knew that, I was just teasing.

Yes, sometimes we choose words that others can read differently to us, I know I do often.

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well i knew it wasn't putting him to sleep so if you are holding him and then he bites, you put him on a stand as a way of ignoring him for a moment?

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i am also wanting to learn about amazons…. there is one at the shelter that i got all of my fids at. he (i think its a she, i believe that females have brown eyes) is 26 and seems like a good parrot. i would love to learn more about them

he may not be the brightest colors, but he does need a home

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No, the color of the eyes doesn't work with zons and, if you ask me, it doesn't even work with cockatoos because I had two girls that had black eyes (yes, they were girls, they both laid).
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Bibi you need to look at the eyes in the correct lighting to see if the eye has a brown iris, and not all species of toos have the different iris colouring. The main Australian ones that do are the Sulphur Crested, Galah's, Major Mitchell's and the Blacks. Corella's don't have different eye colouring. Gang Gang's can be easily sexed as male and female's are different colours at maturity, the hens don't have the red head and crests.

I agree with what Daisy said. Shelly you don't say what species of too you are talking about. The different species can have quite different personalities. I keep Sulphurs, Galah's, Long and Short Billed Corella's. One of my female Sulphurs is the sweetest bird around, but even she has her moments, not necessarily with me but with others, I can pretty much do anything at all with her and she has never even tried to bite me, she is 14 in September, I hand raised her from 2 weeks and she left me at 16 weeks and I got her back when she was 4, at the time I was the only female who could touch her, but after getting her back she was then fine with most other women.

Personally I would never use a harness of any type with a too, they don't really like them and will just chew them. I don't have a problem with screaming at all, but I have more than one too so they don't need to flock call even when the wild ones come over calling. A couple of the boys will have a very short scream in the morning and afternoon, but it wouldn't even be for 30 seconds at a time. It is usually lonliness or boredom that makes them scream and then it is more often the males, my girl Charlie has only ever screamed twice in all the time I have had her.

I don't feed pellets, and with toos their beaks are used like shovels, so they would just throw them around, very expensive waste with them. I feed a good quality peachface mix, which is basically a good quality budgie mix with the addition of 10% Sunflower and Safflower. Fruit and veges and occassionally nuts in the shell as a treat. They like Almonds, Walnuts, Peanuts and even Brazil Nuts. My Sammy knew just where to get his beak on a Walnut to split it in half.

As for small birds around them, I don't encourage it. But I have wild sparrows that will raid the toos cages and the toos basically ignore them, the bars of the cage are wide enough apart for the sparrows to get in. Mine are under a big awning at the back of the house so the wild birds can get under there.

Toos are extremely intelligent and they do understand when they have done something wrong. I can remember when Sammy was young and I was outside talking with someone and Sammy was yelling. I went inside to tell him off and to be quite, he got this really innocent look on his face and said, "Sammy not a good boy". I told him no he wasn't, and he stopped yelling. If my guys are naughty, they get time out in their cages. They understand more than people give them credit for.
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the most common toos around here are umbrella and moluccans.

would you say that you couldnt live without one after living with one?

i would also like to learn about amazons seeming that one is up for adoption and if i even had a chance, he would be the one i would want.

i don't really know much about them. is this ones body feathers dull do to his older age (26)? and i believe he is an orange winged amazon right?


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At 26 that is only middle age for an amazon. It is an orange winged in bad feather condition I think. The beak looks a little too long too - maybe he's on bad diet which is causing dull feathers and a slightly long beak.

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No I don't think I could live without a too. I don't know what I would do if anything happened to my Charlie, she is my little baby girl and I just love her to bits.
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I found someone giving away a GCC and a Moluccan too (my 2 dream birds). They want someone to care for them and she will still pay for them, and she wants to be able to visit them. this can lead to them getting a permanent home. The too is described as wanting to be held and loved. Seeing that this is a maricle opportunity to both get the birds I have always wanted, and have them be paid for for a while, I am really trying to get them as a "birthday and graduation present". I am going to be the happiest person alive if I get these 2 cuties! Pray for me!

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That is brilliant. That's like a trial for you to see if you can take care of them.. if it doesn't work out you could always hand them the birds back, it's good both ways . I will pray and hope you'll get them.

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No sign of me getting them yet but I'm still trying!

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Yes I meant place them on their cage, on the floor, on a stand etc. If you're not holding them they're not happy

I tried feeding my too pellets and as Kate said, they literally do just shovel them out. Their beaks are... deep? I can't quite explain it. Galahs and corellas etc. have a different type of beak, a lot more small and a lot more nippy

My problem with cockatoos biting is yes they will give you warning if they're not in the mood (Boo would raise his crest and open his beak) but they can will and do flip out of nowhere on occasion. Well, I say nowehere, but there is usually a reason. You just might not pick up on the reason

A content cockatoo should only really do their morning and evening screaming sessions but they do scream if they want things and such. It is unrealistic of anybody to think they're only going to scream then I just went about my daily business acting like I couldn't hear it to be honest. I wasn't going to give him the attention. An M2 I believe is the loudest bird though

I miss Malibu a lot but at the moment I'm living without any companion birds, so either way it is hard for me. I do intend that when I move from my current home within the next few years that I have a galah or two, and a bare eyed cockatoo (or two). All of my future birds will be housed in aviaries so I really can't have something like an M2 or U2 yelling in the garden but I don't think I could go the rest of my life without a cockatoo

I had a lot of companion birds and each and every day I would have to spend individual time with them all. Unfortunately you just have to work your way around it. I wouldn't let two out at the same time as they do compete for your attention. My orange winged Amazon parrot would fly at my face if I was holding Harvey, the cockatiel

Although you are considering getting the M2 and conure, I will put in a little bit about Amazons

I would say that in terms of behaviour, Amazons are a lot more difficult to handle The Amazon pictured is an orange winged, for sure, and does need a lot of love. Male Amazons are a lot more fiesty. There are 3 species labelled as 'the hot 3'. That is the yellow naped, double yellow headed and blue fronted. The males of those species when sexually mature, every year at breeding season, can come across as extremely aggressive and loud. I had a male orange winged (see my avatar) and when it hit breeding season I felt like giving him away! I wouldn't, of course, but he drove me up the walls. He started to become a lot more confident around me but then started to like me a bit too much. He became over protective, yet would lunge at me! His screaming was almost constant. He decided one day to rip up the wall for nesting material! Females are a LOT more docile though, so if you DO get an Amazon, I recommend a girly. Oh, and no you cannot sex them through their eyes. Orange winged Amazons have multicoloured eyes up close, they are stunning

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No sign of me getting them yet but I'm still trying!
My fingers are crossed for you.

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I have found it is mainly the male Sulphur Crested Toos that do most of the yelling. I have had more than one female here and have rarely heard a yell from them. As I said Charlie has only yelled twice in about 10 years and that was only because her brother went to a show and once when she went to a show and she was upset about leaving George. The boys are a different matter altogether. Just went outside this morning and George gave a bit of a yell. With the others they just threw up their crests. Mine usually don't do any calling to the wild Sulphurs when they are around making heaps of noise, and they visit my yard fairly regularly and at certain times of the year are in either the conifers at the back or the Cootamundra Wattle at the front.
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I cant have them :'( I wasn't given any reason why.... It really angers me for many reasons a little bit more emotional this time... I just don't have words for it

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