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What Parrot is Right For Me?

I need help finding a few species that fit my needs. I want a parrot that is VERY cuddly and loving! I am also looking for a parrot that doesn't constantly scream. A few daily loud calls are fine and loud chirping a lot is fine too. Coloring and size isn't that important although I would prefer a bird that doesn't get bigger than a African Grey. It would also be cool if my bird could learn a few words. Personality wise I want a loving, sweet, and playful bird. Energy level doesn't matter much either. Cost needs to be under $400.00 for the bird and it's supplies. If you have any emails of experts I could use that would be great, websites are good too. If you have any cage or supply recommendations those are definitely welcome as well! You may also email me at [email protected] !
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My suggestion: go to a bird rescue and meet some parrots. They're all individuals, and just because a species has a tendency toward a trait (talking ability, affection, quietness or loudness) doesn't mean every specimen will turn out that way.

What you are looking for is basically "the perfect bird" and I think you are likely to be disappointed if you buy a baby and it doesn't turn out the way you want. Sorry to be negative, but that's the way it is.

Also, VERY cuddly and loving often equals over-bonded, which is not good. In the wild, birds don't "cuddle" or have much physical contact with other birds aside from their mates. Over-bonded birds often do not know they are birds, and/or are more likely to scream when you're not paying attention to them. Or pluck, or mutilate, or any other number of other sad and problematic symptoms of parrots in captivity.

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Also, virtually no bird is under $400 for the bird and its supplies unless you adopt and/or score some massive deals on the cage and toys! Even a small bird needs a large cage.
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A cockatiel. They are cuddly and sweet, especially hand fed ones. You can get a cockatiel for about $50-$100, cage about $100-$150. And the rest of your money can go towards toys and stuff.
However, like aether drifter said, if you get a "cuddly" hand fed bird, it is likely to get over attached to you and flock call a lot if you are not with it. So, the noise may be an issue.

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I kinda agree that you may be disappointed if you expect a PERFECT bird. But lovebirds and parrotlets are supposed to be very affectionate, pretty quiet, and a ton of fun to have. But both of those species, if I'm not mistaken, have the personality of a big parrot packed into that nubby little ball of feathers. Cockatiels are pretty playful, are fairly quiet, and like to do a little bit of cuddling. As for your cost requirement, if I were you I'd look to adopt from a shelter if you want to come anywhere close to your proposed budget. However there's still a good chance you'll go over $400 for the bird and everything he/she will need to be happy.
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I would suggest researching cockatiels and green cheek conures. The conures may be priced out of range unless you find a breeder not a pet store. Unfortunately neither of these species are known for their great talking abilities. Male tiels can talk a little but can whistle amazing tunes! Parrotlets can be cuddly but are more often nippy and opinionated little brats. The males can talk a little. Some English budgies are cuddly, some males can talk well, they are inexpensive although a good flight cage will still be $150.+ Look for a hand raised SOCIALIZED baby near you and see what types of birds are in your area and then research the heck out of the species to see if it is a fit for you!
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How about an English budgie? One of the best all time talkers.

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Hi,

Read up on the Senegal on the internet. It says they are a quiet parrot one of the quietest and mild mannered, can talk and is very entertaining
Research your birds before purchasing to make sure you get what is right for you.

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I have seven cockatiels, and only one is "cuddly" while three more like their heads rubbed on their own terms, when they're in the mood. Three are totally hands-off, and out of those, two are hand-fed and tame. Also, only one of my seven talks at all (if talking ability is important to the OP). The only way to guarantee getting a talking bird is to choose one that is already talking.

Lovebirds have little to no talking ability, and I don't think Senegals are known to be good mimics either. Budgies are not usually cuddly.

I still think meeting some adult birds whose habits are set is your best bet. Don't worry too much about species, if size and color are not super important to you.

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Read up on the Senegal on the internet. It says they are a quiet parrot one of the quietest and mild mannered, can talk and is very entertaining
Research your birds before purchasing to make sure you get what is right for you.

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My second female sennie was given up because she screamed all day long to the point that the woman was getting threatened with eviction - and they are not really 'mild-mannered', they are stubborn little things which can be quite nippy when they don't get their way and outright aggressive when not happy (the most aggressive bird I ever taken in is a male Senegal -he is fine now but it took 3.5 years).
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I have seven cockatiels, and only one is "cuddly" while three more like their heads rubbed on their own terms, when they're in the mood. Three are totally hands-off, and out of those, two are hand-fed and tame. Also, only one of my seven talks at all (if talking ability is important to the OP). The only way to guarantee getting a talking bird is to choose one that is already talking.

Lovebirds have little to no talking ability, and I don't think Senegals are known to be good mimics either. Budgies are not usually cuddly.

I still think meeting some adult birds whose habits are set is your best bet. Don't worry too much about species, if size and color are not super important to you.
True, they all have different personalities, but perhaps if the cockatiel is an only bird, they may be more inclined to cuddle with their owner? I don't know. It seems that with birds it's always a lottery, LOL

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True, they all have different personalities, but perhaps if the cockatiel is an only bird, they may be more inclined to cuddle with their owner? I don't know. It seems that with birds it's always a lottery, LOL
Yup, definitely agree with that! Some tiels are cuddly, yes. I've definitely met some affectionate ones. But I wouldn't call all or even most of them very cuddly. It seems like the OP is highly specific in what he/she wants, and though a tiel COULD fit the bill, I would definitely not assume that just any tiel would.

Maybe a Quaker would be likely to satisfy? They can be loud, though. And again, no guarantees!
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I need help finding a few species that fit my needs. I want a parrot that is VERY cuddly and loving! I am also looking for a parrot that doesn't constantly scream. A few daily loud calls are fine and loud chirping a lot is fine too. Coloring and size isn't that important although I would prefer a bird that doesn't get bigger than a African Grey. It would also be cool if my bird could learn a few words. Personality wise I want a loving, sweet, and playful bird. Energy level doesn't matter much either. Cost needs to be under $400.00 for the bird and it's supplies. If you have any emails of experts I could use that would be great, websites are good too. If you have any cage or supply recommendations those are definitely welcome as well! You may also email me at [email protected] !
I disagree that you can't get a bird and their necessary supplies for $400. It depends largely on the bird you want-obviously larger birds are well over $400 just for them alone but since you want a quiet bird, that pretty much limits you to smaller species in general. And they tend to be much less expensive.

The key to getting a bird and their initial supplies within your budget is to be a smart shopper. First buy a cage, and get one off of craigslist. If you monitor it for a few weeks, you should be able to find a good, large cage for under $100 (or even around $50-$75) and as long as it 1/2 inch bar spacing, you can use it for any small bird you decide on. Sometimes cages will even be sold with a travel carrier and or play-stand.

Over the next few weeks/months you can pick up some perches *natural wood, a rope perch, and a cement perch are good to start, and a few toys to start with. You should be able to get those for less than $50. You will also need a place for the bird to be when they are out with you. A very affordable "play-stand" of sorts is a basket. It is also extremely portable, birds love them, and they are only a couple dollars. You can attach a ladder, tie on some plastic buttons, bottle caps, q-tips as foot toys, cat balls, etc. And it would all probably less than $10.

Then once you get your bird, the only thing you will need is a bag of quality seed, millet, and pellets which together should be less than $20.

As time goes on, you will need to purchase more toys for the bird so that you can rotate them in and out so that the bird doesn't get bored, but purchasing one a month is fine and that would cost more than $10 a month. The initial food purchase should last you a few months with only one bird.

Now for the bird itself, considering what you are looking for, cuddly, playful, quiet, loving, can talk, and sweet, I would recommend the following species in order of best able to meet you specifications.

1. Lineolated parakeet $175-200 (they will be more expensive than cockatiels, lovebirds, or budgies, but otherwise meet all of your criteria).

2. Cockatiel $50-$80 if handtame (females will be sweeter most likely and quieter, but won't talk as much as males).

3. Parrotlet $100-$150 (More expensive than cockatials (usually), lovebirds or budgies, also lack the sweet factor, but meet all of your other specifications. Only males generally talk).

4. Budgie $20 untame-$50 if handtame (Males talk usually, they meet your specifications except aren't as cuddly as the other species. They bond really well to humans tho when kept singly).

5. Lovebirds $50-$80 if handtame (These are cheaper than linnies and parrotlets, but are louder, won't talk most likely, and also lack the sweet factor. They are cuddly, playful, and fun tho. They also will probably be the loudest of these species with male cockatiels coming in second).

These are the general prices in my area, it might be different where you are. Also there are many tame birds on craigslist that need a new home and often come with their cage, toys, and food. The prices above typically reflect buying a handfed baby, but I would advocate taking in one that needs a new home if you can. My sister got her parrotlet, all his toys, carrier, and food for $125 on craigslist and he was already tame and social-so it saved her having to do that if she would have gotten him as a baby. Whether handfed or not, all baby birds have to be socialized. She also got her english budgie on craigslist with his cage and toys for free because someone lost their job and needed him to go to a new home. I have seen cockatiels with their cage/toys for around $100 and linnies with their cage/toys for about $200-$300 (although they aren't as easy to come by).

Anyway, hope this helps.

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I disagree that you can't get a bird and their necessary supplies for $400. It depends largely on the bird you want-obviously larger birds are well over $400 just for them alone but since you want a quiet bird, that pretty much limits you to smaller species in general. And they tend to be much less expensive.
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Yep, to stay under $400 I would definitely go the Craigslist or bird rescue route. Also, taking in a bird in need of a home is always a good thing! My birds are almost all rehomes and are absolute gems.

That being said, the toys and cage that come with a bird are not always adequate, just because the owner was using them. I've never kept a single cage that came with my rehomed birds, as they were all appallingly small. I also had to buy all new perches and toys, since the ones that came with them were either old, or there just weren't enough of them.

Cost breakdown estimate for a small bird, not including bird itself:

- Cage: $80-200
- Perches: $50-80
- Toys: $75
- Food: $20-50
- Play gym/stand: $100-200

I'm basing this off needing at least 8 natural wood perches, probably a few sisal ones and a boing as well for variety; At least ten toys to start with, at an average of $7.50 each; and for food, one would want to purchase a bag of pellets, a good seed mix, and fresh ingredients to make things like chop, birdie bread, veggie skewers, etc.

So, at the very least -- if you didn't purchase a play gym at all -- you'd be looking at $225. Not including the bird OR a new bird wellness check or bloodwork!!!

You can cut corners with the costs if you're crafty. Toys can be made at half of retail cost, or less, and if you have access to bird-safe trees you can make your own perches and even a tree stand. But when you're purchasing everything brand new, it adds up VERY quickly.
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Yep, to stay under $400 I would definitely go the Craigslist or bird rescue route. Also, taking in a bird in need of a home is always a good thing! My birds are almost all rehomes and are absolute gems.

That being said, the toys and cage that come with a bird are not always adequate, just because the owner was using them. I've never kept a single cage that came with my rehomed birds, as they were all appallingly small. I also had to buy all new perches and toys, since the ones that came with them were either old, or there just weren't enough of them.

Cost breakdown estimate for a small bird, not including bird itself:

- Cage: $80-200
- Perches: $50-80
- Toys: $75
- Food: $20-50
- Play gym/stand: $100-200

I'm basing this off needing at least 8 natural wood perches, probably a few sisal ones and a boing as well for variety; At least ten toys to start with, at an average of $7.50 each; and for food, one would want to purchase a bag of pellets, a good seed mix, and fresh ingredients to make things like chop, birdie bread, veggie skewers, etc.

So, at the very least -- if you didn't purchase a play gym at all -- you'd be looking at $225. Not including the bird OR a new bird wellness check or bloodwork!!!

You can cut corners with the costs if you're crafty. Toys can be made at half of retail cost, or less, and if you have access to bird-safe trees you can make your own perches and even a tree stand. But when you're purchasing everything brand new, it adds up VERY quickly.
I don't think you need all of this right off. Birds won't even play with toys for the first few weeks or even months when they come to a new home so 3 toys and 3 perches is more than enough for the first month or so. My budgie sat in the same spot for two weeks when I first got her and would only eat when I'd leave the room, lol! Also my natural wood playstands were both $40 brand new each, but I have small birds. And my birds like the 99 cent basket more than the playgyms anyway, lol.

Whether on a budget or not, I'd rather get a cage on craigslist and save money. I recently got a brand new cage in box retail $149.99 on craigslist for $55. I found a stacker for my dad in like new condition for $100, normally about $300.

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My birds all played with toys right away. But it's true, you can make great toys out of stuff from the dollar store as long as you make sure it's safe! As for the perches, I'm thinking of the amount you'd need to fill up something like a flight cage, and maybe put some outside the cage as well -- they do add up. I personally wish I had access to some trees of my own to just get branches that way!

Great deals are out there, for sure, and it pays to be on the lookout for them! I also see people selling used cages that are covered in rust for ridiculous prices on CL, or charging more than you can get the same cage new for online. Maybe you're in a better area for me for deals.
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One caution with used cages, make sure to disinfect very well! You don't know what the bird before yours was carrying or died from.
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My birds all played with toys right away. But it's true, you can make great toys out of stuff from the dollar store as long as you make sure it's safe! As for the perches, I'm thinking of the amount you'd need to fill up something like a flight cage, and maybe put some outside the cage as well -- they do add up. I personally wish I had access to some trees of my own to just get branches that way!

Great deals are out there, for sure, and it pays to be on the lookout for them! I also see people selling used cages that are covered in rust for ridiculous prices on CL, or charging more than you can get the same cage new for online. Maybe you're in a better area for me for deals.
Yes more would be needed eventually. Generally larger bird stuff also way more expensive.

Craigslist is a bit of luck, hit and miss. But if glance every other day for a few weeks, it is oretty likely you'll fine something nice that someone just needs to get rid of.

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Small bird stuff gets expensive too, if you don't take the DIY route and you like to spoil your fids. $5-15 a toy (as opposed to $10-40 a toy for big birds). I don't even want to think about how much I've spent on my tiels in the past year! lol.

I just bought some popsicle sticks, beads, and leather cord from My Safe Bird Store, though, and it was pretty cheap...I've already made a few nice toys out of it. I also like buying rolls of palm leaf shredder "tape", cutting squares out of it and shoving them on a skewer.

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