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how often do you bathe birds?

i am slowly figuring out that some of my guys like the bathe whether it just in the water or in the water and being sprayed. i want to make it a regular thing to hopefully keep some of the dust down….. but how often is too often? is once a week ok? during the summer i plan to have a shallow dish of water always in their cage, but for now i will just spray them.

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Depends on the birds. For my linnies, about once a week because they have to sprayed and most times i don't come home until later in the day so I don't want to spray them. For my canaries, everyday because they bathe by themselves in the water dish. Even in the winter when my house is about 63 F and the water is really cold from the sink (that was their favorite).
A lot of times in the winter, I would put an incandescent lamp near their cage a little before and for some time after I would give them water. (The linnies didn't like being in the direct light, but the canaries loved it)

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I mist my parrotlet every day. In fact, if I don't mist her by 8 AM she gets cranky and will start chirping loudly until we get the party started. She stays on my shoulder and we walk around while it 'rains'.

About once a week, perhaps twice, she'll ask to get soaked, absolutely drenched by leaning into the stream and doing that funny thing with her wings, rubbing herself and the inside of her wings all over my head as I mist. This often requires a refill of the misting bottle.

Then we stand in front of the wall-to-ceiling window in direct sunlight as she dries off and receives an extremely enjoyed allopreen.

I've grown quite fond of this ritual, and am always curious: "Is this the day for a super-soak?"
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My budgie and linnie like to take bathes in the sink and we do this on sundays. My plet won't bathe ever....he never has initiated it the whole time I have had him other then fluffing up and drinking water lol, so I assist him on sundays as well.

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My plet won't bathe ever....
Have you tried misting? When I first brought this little bird home, I tried to provide all manner of bathing opportunity and the bird never took to it.

Then one day she was playing in one of her artificial plants and I gently misted from afar. She stopped, but didn't seem frightened, and I misted more at which point she seemed to lose her mind with glee, hopping from branch to branch, rubbing all over the 'plant' leaves and spreading her wings as I misted. Since that day I tried now and then, but she seemed bothered at most times, like a punishment, and receptive at others. I just kept trying every other day or so, and would stop if it seemed to scare her and continued if she seemed receptive.

After about four months, she reluctantly enjoyed it from afar every time I tried, but sometimes she went nuts. After eight months and now at fifteen, she wants it every day on my shoulder and goes all-out bonkers maybe every third day.

Who knows, every bird is an individual, but have you tried getting misty with Oliver?

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Have you tried misting? When I first brought this little bird home, I tried to provide all manner of bathing opportunity and the bird never took to it.

Then one day she was playing in one of her artificial plants and I gently misted from afar. She stopped, but didn't seem frightened, and I misted more at which point she seemed to lose her mind with glee, hopping from branch to branch, rubbing all over the 'plant' leaves and spreading her wings as I misted. Since that day I tried now and then, but she seemed bothered at most times, like a punishment, and receptive at others. I just kept trying every other day or so, and would stop if it seemed to scare her and continued if she seemed receptive.

After about four months, she reluctantly enjoyed it from afar every time I tried, but sometimes she went nuts. After eight months and now at fifteen, she wants it every day on my shoulder and goes all-out bonkers maybe every third day.

Who knows, every bird is an individual, but have you tried getting misty with Oliver?
Yeah he hates it and prefers the man smell lol.

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Yeah he hates it and prefers the man smell lol.

I have a horrible thought of parrots being bathed in AXE and walking around all proud, buying motorcycles and football jerseys, whilst terrorizing their mates with demands for a 'man cage'.

I'll back away from my suggestion. Let us not mist Oliver with anything other than love.
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maybe i will make misting a weekend ritual…..

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I mist my parrotlet every day. In fact, if I don't mist her by 8 AM she gets cranky and will start chirping loudly until we get the party started. She stays on my shoulder and we walk around while it 'rains'.

About once a week, perhaps twice, she'll ask to get soaked, absolutely drenched by leaning into the stream and doing that funny thing with her wings, rubbing herself and the inside of her wings all over my head as I mist. This often requires a refill of the misting bottle.

Then we stand in front of the wall-to-ceiling window in direct sunlight as she dries off and receives an extremely enjoyed allopreen.

I've grown quite fond of this ritual, and am always curious: "Is this the day for a super-soak?"
how did you get your bird so tame? Did you have it since he was a baby? My parrotlets won't stay on me or take showers with me Help
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I can't hardly get my P'lets off of me. They go where I go...literally. Right now I've got both of the asleep on me, tucked right up against my neck where they like to go.

As for the bathing, I have a vision bird bath that I fill with water. My male P'let Love love loves it...it's the only way to get him to take a bath. He will fly over to it and start knocking it around like a food dish and that lets me know he wants a bath. My female will check it out, but she won't go in it. She prefers an open dish of water, usually her drinking dish and plays in that.

My 'Tiels...yea, good luck with that one. They are to big for the bird bath, screech like a banshee if I mist them and show only mild interest when I leave a shallow pan of water for them. They get their feet wet, but that's about it.

Here is a video of my male using the vision bird bath. It has a little clamp that fits onto the cage bars...but I don't use it. Takes up to much space and he's fine doing it this way.
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how did you get your bird so tame? Did you have it since he was a baby?
My parrotlet was actually almost two years-old when I brought her home. I had been researching parrotlets as pets for about seven or eight years (without exaggeration) before she came here, and I was expecting the worst as these were not 'ideal' conditions in re: her age and life experience, but I felt committed to her long-term well-being.

I dunno. I work from home and am with the bird all day every day. She is flighted and free within the house all day and has been since the day she came here (though she now spends much of her time on my shoulder grinding her beak). We have boundaries that I need to reinforce occasionally, and she can get nippy sometimes which requires attention, though for the most part we live very, very quiet, mutually beneficial lives.

This situation of ours likely can't be duplicated by most, and I am not sure why this bird seems to be such an astonishing example of how intensely 'large' a parrotlet can become in personality and expression (hearing her say 'I love you' early every morning melts my heart over and over), though I believe a lot of work is involved, regardless of the situation. Trying things over and over and over, always being present when with the bird, talking endlessly about anything towards the bird, never getting openly frustrated but setting boundaries for yourself and the bird, practicing radical acceptance, and rewarding enthusiastically and often, all probably help gain a bird's trust.

I dunno. Though I do genuinely love this bird with everything I have, and it seems to be reciprocated... Even if we do have a bad day now and then, we always snuggle before she goes to bed regardless and awake to new possibilities.
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My lot all have dedicated "baths" in their cages and take care of their own ablutions, which they all seem to enjoy, especially on hot days.

On extremely hot days I also mist them, which they love.

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My parrotlet was actually almost two years-old when I brought her home. I had been researching parrotlets as pets for about seven or eight years (without exaggeration) before she came here, and I was expecting the worst as these were not 'ideal' conditions in re: her age and life experience, but I felt committed to her long-term well-being.

I dunno. I work from home and am with the bird all day every day. She is flighted and free within the house all day and has been since the day she came here (though she now spends much of her time on my shoulder grinding her beak). We have boundaries that I need to reinforce occasionally, and she can get nippy sometimes which requires attention, though for the most part we live very, very quiet, mutually beneficial lives.

This situation of ours likely can't be duplicated by most, and I am not sure why this bird seems to be such an astonishing example of how intensely 'large' a parrotlet can become in personality and expression (hearing her say 'I love you' early every morning melts my heart over and over), though I believe a lot of work is involved, regardless of the situation. Trying things over and over and over, always being present when with the bird, talking endlessly about anything towards the bird, never getting openly frustrated but setting boundaries for yourself and the bird, practicing radical acceptance, and rewarding enthusiastically and often, all probably help gain a bird's trust.

I dunno. Though I do genuinely love this bird with everything I have, and it seems to be reciprocated... Even if we do have a bad day now and then, we always snuggle before she goes to bed regardless and awake to new possibilities.
I agree 100% with you. My P'lets are pretty tame, very much bonded to me. I got my male right when he finished weaning, but he had been pulled from the nest at 4 days and hand reared by an amazing lady who has a lot of experience with birds. My job was to continue what she had started.

My female is a rescue bird and I've only had her since early Jan. She was about 12-18 months when I got her. There were some health issues as well as behavioral. She had gone through several homes before I got her and hadn't truly bonded with anyone, was scared of people, had been abused by a nasty conure and was scared of other birds. I remember when I went to see her and her old owner reached into the cage really rough like to get her out. She bit her and immediately took off flying looking for safe place. I found her by the fireplace mantle, wrapped a small fleece doll blanket around her and just started cooing really soft, cuddling her. Tried to make her feel safe. Not sure, but I think she just sensed that I was an OK person. Took her home, spent A LOT of time with her. She can still be a bit nippy at times, all P'lets are...but she has turned out to be one of the most loving birds ever.

P'lets require daily interaction with their humans in order to remain tame. Most experts or websites will tell you that you need 15-30 min 1-2 x daily, but honestly I don't think that is anywhere near enough. I'm lucky that I have flexible schedule and while I have an actual office, I also have home office and can telecommute some. The P'lets cage is at the end of my home office desk and the door stays open if I'm home. They come and go as they please, I talk to them constantly. They sit on my hands while I'm typing or using the mouse and get little scritches that way. They get A LOT of attention, without it I think they would be more like my 'Tiels...tame, but disinterested in humans unless they have food

Julie, just keep working with your bird. Keep it out of the cage whenever possible, take it everywhere with you, keep a nice smooth, soft voice and talk to it constantly. Find out what it likes the best for treats and use it to help train/tame. For example, my male loves Pine Nuts...it's bird crack for him so I ration them out for when we are working on things. Most of all though be patient...don't try to force it. They all have different personalities, some are just tolerant of humans, others think they are human...but there isn't a cookie cutter personality and we need to treat them as individuals with different needs, same as humans.
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Took her home, spent A LOT of time with her. She can still be a bit nippy at times, all P'lets are...but she has turned out to be one of the most loving birds ever.
Does she ever make a little growling noise and then 'head butt' you in a very loving gesture?

My bird does this thing that I have never seen anyone else mention when she is feeling especially affectionate, happy, or overly pleased. In a singular gesture, she voices 'Errrrrrrr!' while taking a step forward and pushing her forehead and beak into my neck or ear in an upward gesture. It is adorable, really, it is a bit too cute.

It is a single thing, very elaborate and expressive, reserved for particular moments. I usually get a 'head butt' or two in the morning, maybe one when I come out of the shower, and then one before we settle in for the night. Sometimes I get one for doing something seemingly inconsequential, like putting away the dishes, which really gets my curiosity going.

It is just such a specific, large expression, I find it curious that I have never seen it referenced anywhere. Have you experienced anything like this?
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are plets more loving than keets? it seems like they are easier to bond with than keets when you have a few. i have no bonds with my flock and i really want to.. which is why i plan to adopt some kind of conure or medium sized bird in the future and then a large bird in the future future

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Does she ever make a little growling noise and then 'head butt' you in a very loving gesture?

My bird does this thing that I have never seen anyone else mention when she is feeling especially affectionate, happy, or overly pleased. In a singular gesture, she voices 'Errrrrrrr!' while taking a step forward and pushing her forehead and beak into my neck or ear in an upward gesture. It is adorable, really, it is a bit too cute.

It is a single thing, very elaborate and expressive, reserved for particular moments. I usually get a 'head butt' or two in the morning, maybe one when I come out of the shower, and then one before we settle in for the night. Sometimes I get one for doing something seemingly inconsequential, like putting away the dishes, which really gets my curiosity going.

It is just such a specific, large expression, I find it curious that I have never seen it referenced anywhere. Have you experienced anything like this?
My male just head butted me. I've got the 'Tiels in here too (husband in their room putting together their new flight cage yippee !), so it's rather loud. I'm trying to work, reading something and basically ignoring his little chirps. Then I feel something knocking on back of my wrist. He had walked over to me and I guess he had been trying to get my attention by chirping, didn't get usual response so he nudged me with his beak. I look at him and he's got this look on his face like "It's about time...now play with me!". He sees he has my attention so he steps up to play. He doesn't normally do that though.

My female doesn't really care for scritches to much. I think the Conure would bite her neck or something, so it bothers her. She does however love to have her beak rubbed and will often nudge me with her beak to get her version of scritches.

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are plets more loving than keets? it seems like they are easier to bond with than keets when you have a few. i have no bonds with my flock and i really want to.. which is why i plan to adopt some kind of conure or medium sized bird in the future and then a large bird in the future future
I honestly don't know because I've never owned one. My bird ownership has been limited to P'lets, 'Tiels and Lorikeets...never regular parakeets. I think it's easier to bond when you get hand reared babies right after they are weaned and also when they aren't housed in a flock. I know you have quite a few birds and that could possibly be the reason. My rationale is that they don't need to bond with you because they have each other.

My 'Tiels are this way. They are technically tame, will step up, never bite, come when called etc....but they aren't "bonded" to me or anyone really. They are technically my children's birds (1 for each child), but my youngest son is the only one who spends a lot of time with his bird. The other kids spend maybe 30 min a day if that with their birds and my oldest boy can go days without talking to his, so I pick up the slack. They are good birds, but just prefer their own company.

I think perhaps if you had a just weaned hand fed baby and kept them in their own cage, away from the others and spent a lot of time with them that you would likely develop that bond. Eventually you would probably be tempted to let that bird play with the others and then you would risk it starting to prefer the flock....but I'm not a bird expert, so I could be completely wrong about that. It's just what makes sense to me is all.

My P'lets have bonded as a pair, but they are still very much bonded to me. But as already stated, I spend A LOT of time with them...I mean, these little guys even go to the restroom with me! I've tried going without them, but they just fly out of the room and chase after me.
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i am slowly figuring out that some of my guys like the bathe whether it just in the water or in the water and being sprayed. i want to make it a regular thing to hopefully keep some of the dust down….. but how often is too often? is once a week ok? during the summer i plan to have a shallow dish of water always in their cage, but for now i will just spray them.
Budgies don't produce dust and they bathe by themselves -at least, mine do.
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Mine too!

The only one with dust is Tilly, the cockatiel, and she loves her bath, and also enjoys being misted, as does my entire flock.

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Budgies don't produce dust.
I have to disagree with this my guys are dusty and it gets over the cage base below the tree an I have it on my windows if I don't wipe them down regularly. Next warm day I am going to wash the cage bases again and scrub them. The plastic under the tree will be washed also

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I never mist my linnies. They bath by themselves every few days.

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