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i found this very touching video on a parrot lovers Facebook page (Feathered Angels) and i thought i would share it!

grab some tissues before you start watching, i cried the first time and i had to keep pausing it it is a very touching and meaningful video. heres to the
adopters/rescuers/supporters/volunteers/and donators out there!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD8zY...ature=youtu.be

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This is an amazing video!!! It really makes you think about the bird 'economy' and how messed up it really is....
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I was touched and deeply moved, and admit to shedding tears as well, which was the purpose of the video.

It's sad that the people who really need to watch this video, the impulse buyers, will probably never get to see it and see its message. Having said that, it's then up to the rest of us to help, as I'm sure that most members here already do.

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Yes! Definitely needs to be spread around because it has such a strong message! I have some cockatiels... I would be devastated if they ended up in the cruel cycle of bird marketing. And, as much as I love mine I wish humans would have let them be wild and free like they are supposed to be. But I will be posting this on my Facebook and Twitter to spread the word.
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and this is why i adopt

there are just no words for how upset i feel when people say they want a parrot for the wrong reasons. or when i go on craigslist to find several parrots that are clearly not taken care of and i can't do any thing. i was watching one of those tv shows of funny clips and they has a clip of an amazon and someone put their hand near it and go bit. seeing that literally ruined the rest of the night for me. to others, it was a zon that just bit someone, but to me, it was a zon in a too small cage, no toys, one perch, probably not a good diet, and when they put their hand near it, the body language was clear that i was going to strike.

here some other things on Feathered Angels FB page that i thought were nice/relatable:





i can't find it but some parrot lover had a nicely summed up opinion on their FB page on parrot breeding in which i have to agree with them. (not to start any debates with the parrot breeders on here but).. they were talking about how a lot of the bred parrots just go to whatever homes (which is not the case with TB breeders) and they are just another source of income. this is why rescues are full with parrots because there are more parrots being bred and not enough people to adopt the ones that are in need now. she bought up the question of if parrot breeders love parrots so much, why are they not helping the parrots in need. if any thing, they are adding to the over population of parrots. which i have to agree with, even if the bred babies are going to forever homes. that baby parrot is taking the place of what could be an adopted parrot, when instead the homeless parrot is still waiting for a home. i believe that breeding parrots should only occur to help the wild population. thankfully there are people out there that do breed and teach the chicks what to eat and how to eat it, and eventually they are released into the wild.

and these are some other things from 'For Parrots' FB page…



a wild caught plucked sennie and a pet sennie are best friends


278 parrots seized (saved) in brazil (this is where i start to feel sick and angry that this is still occurring..)


baby zons that where stolen from the nest and seized from the traffickers




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Thank you for posting that. As someone who has a rescue bird I firmly believe in the message that they were sending out. People simply don't think. Sometimes I browse craigslist, no clue why but I do. Guess it's like slowing down to see accident on road, but anyway it makes me angry because I see so many ads for pets and the reason they are being rehomed is because "I don't have time for them" or "I got it for my kid, only my kid won't play with it, doesn't like it" blah blah blah....I just want to slap those people. Doesn't matter what type of animal it is, but with the birds I get even more angry because they will post "Not Tame" and you know it's because they haven't been worked with and they show the cages that these birds live in. OMG, I saw one that was so filthy!! It couldn't have been cleaned in couple of months, or the cage is to small, has to many birds in it...very rarely do I see one that has legit excuse for re-homing...like moving, or someone died..things like that. Sorry for rant, just irritates me.
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The photo of babies seized in Brasil makes me ill. My husband is Brasilian, the problem there is that the persons who are doing the actual capturing of the birds are very poor, often having nothing. To them if a smuggler asks them to capture the birds they are only thinking about feeding their families. The government there right now is trying very hard to make positive changes, but they are also going to place different priorities on things than us.
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Thank you for posting that. As someone who has a rescue bird I firmly believe in the message that they were sending out. People simply don't think. Sometimes I browse craigslist, no clue why but I do. Guess it's like slowing down to see accident on road, but anyway it makes me angry because I see so many ads for pets and the reason they are being rehomed is because "I don't have time for them" or "I got it for my kid, only my kid won't play with it, doesn't like it" blah blah blah....I just want to slap those people. Doesn't matter what type of animal it is, but with the birds I get even more angry because they will post "Not Tame" and you know it's because they haven't been worked with and they show the cages that these birds live in. OMG, I saw one that was so filthy!! It couldn't have been cleaned in couple of months, or the cage is to small, has to many birds in it...very rarely do I see one that has legit excuse for re-homing...like moving, or someone died..things like that. Sorry for rant, just irritates me.
i have seen the same things on CL. someone had 6 parakeets that were in filthy cages. i posted it on talk budgies while discussing a related topic and someone on the forums said that they contacted the owner and said that they would take them. i don't know if they did take them, but at least they tried. i really hate when i look at birds and people either have a blurry pic or they have one line as the description. i saw an ad for a grey not to long ago and the person only explained how it liked to bite a lot and you should only get it if you don't mind being bitten. well, first of all the bird probably has a reason for biting and second, no one (unless they are really experienced with biting birds) is going to reply to that. and how many times have we seen pets being sold as "great xmas gifts!" or "bunnies for easter"? just… NO. any real pet person would not sell their bred pets as gifts for holidays or for kids. easters coming and you know that there will be a lot of rabbit being sold for quick money. most will probably end up in shelters. same with parakeets because of their cheap price. i am still surprised at how many larger parrots are bought by uneducated owners despite their expensive price. once they have them they usually think that the parrot is getting behavioral problems- which might be true if not cared for the right way, but it might also be outsmarting them without them knowing it

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I for one like to encourage people to rescue or rehome before buying a bird from myself. However, that said, I would never go through a rescue again as I've only had awful experiences. I am sure that the US rescues are far, far better than what we have here. I rehome when I can, and as I just mentioned, I had also adopted and fostered for a rescue. I will always rehome, no doubt about it. Of all of the birds I have bred and sold, only one has been passed on. He came back to myself and another person who had already bought a bird off me took him on too (they were brothers). When somebody buys a bird, I question them on absolutely everything and if they're wrong, I help educate them. I am no longer hand rearing parrots. I find it psychologically damaging to the birds. I also do not strip the babies of their parents once they're deemed 'weaned' from eating on their own. The longer the babies experience being birds the better

Another thing you have to remember. The people catching these birds and selling them are doing it for a reason. A lot of the time the birds are coming from countries where poverty thrives and so people will do anything to make cash to feed themselves and their families. I am not saying this is the case for all of them, but it is their way of life and we are a completely different culture. By all means, people do it because they can get money for all of the wrong reasons and couldn't care less about the birds, but I do think it is something to consider when seeing how these birds are being caught

I am not saying I don't agree with rescues, because I do! And I am certainly not saying that I'm happy with the import and export going on at all, but we do have to assess the situations first. I would like it all to stop. Who are we to keep birds in the first place? We have no rights. Conservation programmes are trying their hardest but due to mostly habitat destruction and smuggling, many parrot species are in high decline

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Many members of German bird forums look for birds who need help in the neighborhood or in advertisments. Then they offer them in the forum. This way many birds find a new and loving home with people who are interested in learning about good bird keeping.
Our German linnie forum has a special section for rescue birds.
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So so sad

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i wish there were sites in the us to post animal ads that would be for good animal owners. obviously craigslist is not a good place for selling animals. for a few months now someone has been trying to sell a blue crowned conure and just yesterday they re-listed it as free. i would love to take it in because A. i want a conure and B. so no uneducated creep decides that their first bird is going to be a BCC...

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The solution is to have all breeders registered, certified (with annual inspections done to the premises) and given a quota (to avoid overpopulation) as well as require the owners to pass an exam and get a license (same as for birds of prey). This would eliminate the greatest majority of breeders and bad owners but good luck getting anything done here in USA where PIJAC is such a powerful lobbying organization working against companion animals every single day of the year!
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Why don't the US forum members try a start?
Perhaps we find somebody to post a link of the parrots offered on Craiglist in our forum.
And if somebody of us has to rehome a parrot he could offer him in our forum first.
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i could post links to birds in MA, but that is a lot of birds and i don't think that there are a lot of people on the forum around here

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Why don't the US forum members try a start?
Perhaps we find somebody to post a link of the parrots offered on Craiglist in our forum.
And if somebody of us has to rehome a parrot he could offer him in our forum first.
You could always post them in the classifieds section

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National site for rescues and private adoptions. Simply designate your state, animal and species you are in search of.

http://www.rescueme.org/
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I like to use petfinder.com which is also all rescues for adoption

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