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Where are your parrots from?

Recently,I watched a tv program on Taiwan Public Television Service.it's about breeding parrots.
With the price of parrots getting cheaper,there are more and more people keep parrots as pets in Taiwan.so the channel made the program to introduce parrots,including the circumstance of wild parrots.it tell us that the local people will hurt the environment in order to get parrots or eggs for business.
in the end of the program,it tells us "if you really love parrots and have one as a pet,please let it be the last pet parrot of you,then you will have parrots in full sky" "you don't know how great it pay for being your pet,maybe it sacrifice a whole family or a whole group."

well...I think i did my best on translation

anyway,i was really touched by it.i know most people will buy parrots from legal pet shops,i mean,who want to the wild birds??? so why parrots are endangered of extinct???

By the way,i would like to know that in your country,how the government treat pet parrots? is there any law about breeding or selling parrots?
my country had ignored the importance of having laws to pet parrots for a very long time,because it doesn't bring a great profit.now they understand how pet parrots will bring disease and environment problems,but they don't know how to figure it out,because,there are too many unidentified parrots in Taiwan
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I don't know about other countries, but I do know that the illegal pet trade (involving catching wild parrots and selling them elsewhere) is causing an extreme decrease in the amount of parrots and many species are being threatened with extinction. My birds are all bought from breeders or stores where I know who the breeder is etc, they have great care and large enclosures etc in there and I wouldn't buy from anywhere I didn't trust. There are tons of ads at the moment in the UK where they say 'hahns macaw 15 month old tame talks dances' and then I'll look at another "amazon parrot 15 months old tame talks dances' I don't even wanna know where these birds are from. They're all from the same person too. It does upset me. In the UK most parrots have legal requirements and require certificates when you acquire them

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In SA we dont have wild parrots so we dont have that problem, but parrots arent such a big thing here so the rules are very slack and no one really cares.I got Solo from a prison breeding program thats over seen by world of birds rescue center and when i get my second bird i will get it from there again

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In SA we dont have wild parrots so we dont have that problem, but parrots arent such a big thing here so the rules are very slack and no one really cares.I got Solo from a prison breeding program thats over seen by world of birds rescue center and when i get my second bird i will get it from there again
Taiwan does not have wild parrots either,but the parrots might be illegal immigrated These things do happen.sometimes I can watch the news that parrots' eggs are transported illegally between China and Taiwan.

Speaking of wild parrots,I just watched the news that at the town of southern Taiwan,there are many cockatoos habitat and SIRE on the mountains.I don't know what to say but....I think these birds have the right to live here,because,to be honest,it is all result from the breeders' careless and ignorance

so,I think,actually,Taiwan does have wild parrots
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well we have wild ring necks and quakers over here. And the ring necks are often captured over here and sold, and sadly they die real fast

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thats horrid it makes me so angrey

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The import of birds into Australia was stopped in the 1990's and even then it was restricted importation. Australia has very strict quarantine rules and customs are pretty good at picking up any illegal imports. You also cannot legally export Australian Native birds out of Australia. In some ways this is a very short sighted approach as farmers are allowed to kill parrots that are a problem to their crops. Personally I would rather see these birds go into legal aviaries probably overseas to save their lives and give people overseas some of the birds they really want at a reasonable price. At this stage Australia does not have Newcastle's Disease or Bird Flu, but if it did get in here it could feasibly wipe out whole species of birds. A good gene pool overseas could save our parrots. Not many birds are actually gotten out of Australia illegally. It is not just illegal trapping of birds that is bringing them close to extinction. It is also loss of habitat. The Orange Bellied Parrot over here was close to extinction because of habitat loss. Government bodies are re-creating their breeding habitat and a number of birds were taken out of the wild and placed into regulated breeding programs. So far they have more than doubled the birds now living and breeding in the wild. There were only about 50 pairs in the wild and a few years ago they released over 125 birds back into the wild.

Yes taking birds out of the wild for illegal pet trade can be a problem. But without some of these birds going into breeding programs in private collections there would probably be alot more that would be endangered now. The Australian Gouldian Finch is another like that. There are only about 3 very small flocks left in the wild. There are many many thousands of these birds in captivity breeding well, so we will not lose these beautiful little finches anywhere in the future.

Private breeders are vital in saving many of our birds that are endangered. Unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world. In a perfect world I would be able to walk into my backyard and beautiful parrots would be able to fly down and land on my arm and socialize with me, and we would not have to keep them in cages as pets.

I don't agree with wild trapping but I would much rather see a living bird in a cage than a dead bird in the wild.
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The parrot trade and capture industry in South East Asia can be gruesome... I know someone who lives in the Phillippines and she bought 3 ringnecks, I believe, out of sympathy and they all three died... the poachers spread glue on the trees the birds roost in then collect them the next day. Most times, the glue is toxic and the birds die because of it. The ones who survive the glue generally die of stress and dehydration. It's very sad to see



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Jenny that is DISGUSTING! I'm glad she did buy them out of sympathy though

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Jenny that is DISGUSTING! I'm glad she did buy them out of sympathy though
the hard part is that buying them encourages these people to continue to capture birds... It's a no win situation for everyone involved. The people are poor and need to feed their families, since they are unemployed... so buying the birds helps the people and gives you a chance to help the bird, but that encourages them to go catch more birds... It's very sad



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I know it's awful, it's really sad

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