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Tell me about Alexandrines!!

I want to know EVERYTHING! Yes, I am going to do extensive research, but I would like to know from anyone that had owned one before

So I may have the opportunity to adopt an Alexandrine!! I got a message from my old boss at the pet store I worked at that his doctor has one she is looking to rehome. This is his message to me: "3 years old, supposed to be awesome, she also has a Senegal but her husband and teenage kids just don't get along with the birds. She wants to keep the Senegal because she has had it for longer (rats! ) She doesn't want to part with this one either, but feels like it will make her family happier." He also said he's pretty sure it's free WITH a cage, just looking for a good home!

So... Here are the major questions:

1. Can this bird live in a not-so-big apartment for 1-3 years with 2 cockatiels and an English Budgie?

2. How loud are they generally? Are my neighbors (on both sides) going to kick me out?

3. I know they chew, but what am I really in for? like furniture, walls? etc. I am going to be renting...

4. Is this logical? having the birds I have (and always wanting a senegal), is this a bird I will enjoy?

I can't think of anything else now, hopefully some of you will provide some great information for me, and PLEASE be honest, if I can't handle this kind of bird then it's not something I want to get into, I would hate to have to rehome him again in the future. I know all birds are individuals, but in general, tell me about this breed's temperament. Thank you in advance!
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Personally these are one of my all time favourite birds. They are really gentle giants. I only have one now after having lost 2 this year to a hawk. I hand raised Yowie and bred him myself. I never intended on making him into a pet, just quiet enough for showing easily so that he doesn't stress with people around him. He lives in an aviary 11 ft x 8 ft x 8 ft, so he is not in a little cage. But whenever anyone goes near the aviary he is right there next to you. When I go in I get tongue kisses from him. He is now about 7 years old, so not a baby anymore.

I know someone who has two and lives in a one bedroom apartment and also has a Rainbow Lorikeet as well. Alex's are very placid birds and are one of the few that will get on with other birds like cockatiels. One of my previous Alex's was best mates with my pet cockatiel. At one stage I had pet type budgies flying in the aviary with Alex's and the budgies would bully the Alex's.

I find they are no louder than a cockatiel. The only reason my Alex is making more noise that normal is that he is feeling a bit lonely now without anyone else in the aviary.

I just wish I could keep a perch in the aviary for longer than a few days. Just give him plenty of natural wood to chew. And don't let him have the run of the apartment when you are not there, I don't believe in any bird being out of the cage un-supervised.

Don't know anything really about Senegal's. But I know that Alex's are absolutely delightful, especially the males. They have such a sweet nature for such a big bird. I just love them.
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Thanks! I'm hoping to get more information from the current owner, and then I have to convince the hubby of course! which I don't think he is going to go for it, but I figure I'll get as much information as possible to back me up in the process Do you have any pictures of your Alex's?
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The first picture was last year. Second picture when a baby with siblings and the third was this year.
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I have only had contact with three. The first one, I did only meet when he came to visit on his owners shoulder. And this was only once or twice. It seemed like a placid bird.
Mango who I adopted then let fly away, as I thought it was Dexter on my shoulder. Idiot! He was tame, but I did not have hm long enough to really tell what he was like. He did like to throw food dishes and chewed a few things in the short time he was her. Very laid back and caused no issues with my other birds even though he was uncaged with them.
Now Dexter. What more could I wish for. He is a gentle giant. He does seem to not be worried around my other guys. 7 Tiels, 1 Budgie.
He is non flighted and a humanized fellow. And as long as he has a shoulder or my truck to hang around on he is happy.
Noise! Yes he can bark (flock call) when I leave without him. He goes literally everywhere I go. Shopping, working, or just driving around. My shoulder buddy. Don't get me wrong I do not think this is good for a bird. But due to circumstances before I got him that I do not agree with, he is dependent on human contact. So I pamper to his needs. It does siut me though, as it gives me the chance to explain why it is not right.
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Alexandrine! Yes they do seem to be a great choice. Dexter sleeping close to Henry


At the beach


Dexter eating with Henry


Dexter sleeps while I am over run with three boarders.


Budgie Blue gets on with it with Dexter close.


And as per my sigy
All the guys sleeping on the gym.

I should mention I do things different to a lot of others. There are always risks that one needs to be aware of.
But you did ask about Alex. Dexter is close to perfect.


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I'll answer your questions first and then tell you what I think of them. I have been in contact with one bird I wanted to buy from a store, I have owned 2 and I have seen them as aviary birds. I would say they make the best large companion parrot

1) Yes they can, but keeping them flighted is a must if you're going to not have much room. They are usually perch potatoes but they will need to be able to exercise as much as they can and obviously being larger, climbing up something just doesn't cut it. The only issue I can think of is if his cage is big enough or not. Their tails are SO long that they need a lot of out of cage time and a large cage to make sure they don't make it really tatty, and believe me, it can get tatty fast

2) They are quite loud, but they're not vocal. Generally chatty noises like you'd expect from other birds but other than that screaming is not something you'd have to worry about

3) They will chew everything. If you let them. Get as many hard chewing toys as you can because they can make toothpicks of anything I've noticed this with all of the Asiatic parrots. Oh, and NO rope perches are to be left in their cages! They destroy them in minutes and the last thing you want is to have him caught up in the threads

4) I don't know what you were wanting a Sennie for, but if it was because they're laid back and sweet then you will definitely have a good time with an Alexandrine

On to what I think about them!

They're the best larger companion parrots. They give the best kisses. They're gentle giants and ever so sweet. They're very, very clever and easy to train. They love to fly and recall training is easy peasy with them. They're great eaters and will literally eat anything you offer them. They're a sucker for fresh foods... and nuts! Although they have that giant beak, it is very smoochable and rarely inflicts any pain. They're nothing like the Indian ringneck, which is much more timid and usually becomes more timid and aggressive with age. Alexandrines are just buffoons. Honestly, you will love owning one

Going to send you video and photo spam, sorry! Make sure you watch the vids in HD, otherwise they look rubbish

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This one shows what he did to my wall

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I'll spam you with the photos later, gotta go out! You'll notice I don't really have much footage of the older Alexandrine. Well, he was very, very hands off and would grunt at me and fly away if I got too close. I do have photos of him though

Oh, here's the one I met in a store I was planning on taking home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_kfyfUeBRM

He's what made me fall in love with them

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Another thing about them which is the reason I got my first Alex. They are brave and will protect the ones they love.

In Australia an Alex was given a bravery award from the Fire Brigade for saving his family and their home. He was in a cage on a patio when early one morning one of the children's electric blankets went faulty and started burning. He broke out of the cage, got his beak between the brickwork and the edge of the sliding back door and opened the door, flew upstairs and woke the family. The family managed to stop the bed from fully catching fire and were all safe. I decided right then that I had to have an Alex, and I have never regretted that decision.

I agree with everything Clive and Daisy have said about Alex's. They are just the most wonderful bird, really smart, my first Alex would do tricks with just hand signals, and just the sweetest natured birds around. Hens have their moments during breeding cycle, but even that isn't as bad as many other species. They are a delight to hand raise, but do go through a bad hormonal period when reaching puberty, but they soon get over that.

As Clive said, they are really Gentle Giants.
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We'll thank you all, now I REALLY want one!! I haven't heard from the current owner yet, or even attempted to ask my hubby, but this all definitely helps!! I'm coming to think they are like the "hidden gems" of the bird world
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They're definitely hidden gems. Most people look past them because they're a bit unusual and out of proportion looking but once you meet one that's it. You're sold I wasn't all that keen until I met one in a store and now I fully intend on breeding and raising them. They're amazing birds. I've got tons of cute photos I will show you after work


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People are also intimidated by their beaks. I have never been bitten by an Alex yet. Had plenty of bites from budgies, cockatiels and Indian Ringnecks though. Also people often say they are just green, when you see them fly and look underneath you see all the shades and tones underneath. They are a beautiful bird to watch fly.
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I love the colours, especially on the males! The big bold black stripe with a light powder blue on the nape (which is I believe more prominent in the Nepalese subspecies like I have owned) and a lovely peachy-pink around the ring. The plum on their shoulders is so subtle but such a beautiful colour. They also have a powder blue tip to their tail too! Gorgeous, gorgeous parrots

First day home, enjoying first ever nutriberry



First day home and extremely shy. He had a pretty terrible beak thanks to a cruddy diet before he came to me. I have next to no photos of him either



They're quite big





They can be territorial



They have the sweetest faces, even if they're covered in food





They can socialize okay, at times



They're messy



They love to fly



They're real water babies







They're good eaters, even if they've been fed on all seed diets previously







They're curious



And they pull some of the craziest faces when they're angry or really happy (in this case, really happy!)









Oh, one more thing about them. They moult real ugly Like, really really ugly. They look very neglected

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Oh Daisy I am so in love with those pictures!! Although the wall chewing makes me nervous as we are renting I am moving in 2 weeks so I wouldn't be able to even consider it until we make sure we can fit a cage that size in the new place, and I also haven't heard anything more than my old boss just throwing it out there. I appreciate all of this information and those pictures!! It makes me want one regardless of if it's this rescue or another one more research to come!

What is the minimum cage size you would recommend for these guys? I know everyone should get the biggest cage they can afford, but I just wanted to know general measurements for a reference. There will definitely be at least a few hours of out-of-cage time every day
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You do quite a lot of road trips, are you sure an Alexandrine is a good idea? An Alex will take up half of your car space

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I would say a small-ish macaw cage if you can The chewing really isn't bad, if they're supervised! Mine was a bird safe room so I had my Alexandrines and Amazon out all day every day and they'd put themselves to bed at night. The chewing was awful

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Super photos Catalinadee.
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Moulting.


Traveling 600km road trip. Remember he is non flighted though. Not really my choice and one day hope to see him fly. And wear a harness.
http://s815.photobucket.com/user/cla...117a7.mp4.html

And so true about that huge beak. It scares a lot of people. But even when I wind him up he does not strike out with it. They can dilate their pupils at a fantastic rate.


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Yeah moulting they look like (don't think I can say the word) but it is awful and you wonder if they are ever going to look normal ever again.

And with the eye pinning, you always get a warning if they are in a bad mood even before you get close enough to get a bite.

I love mine when they have mango face or corn face, they really enjoy them.

I too love the colours, but some people just see the big green bird and nothing else.

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Thanks Kate! I can see why they would think they were just green. Before I met one, I was guilty of it. But when I saw one in person I couldn't close my mouth! Breath taking. And they're so smooth they look painted!


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You do quite a lot of road trips, are you sure an Alexandrine is a good idea? An Alex will take up half of your car space
We have traveled a bunch over the past few years to see our family, but after this move in 2 weeks we are going to be much more stationary and not really travel anymore because we will be busy with work. Mike is starting his 5 year surgery residency in July so he's not going to have a lot of down time. The only thing I'm really concerned about is being in a small apartment, but I guess not much can be worse than a screaming cockatiel besides, you know, macaws and cockatoos!
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I think you should go for it Besides, you will have a lot of alone time when Mike starts working, his hours will be very long. The birds may keep you good company!

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Update: I have decided not to adopt this Alexandrine. One reason being that the owner has not even contacted me yet. Another BIG reason is because I think it is just too much for us to handle at this point in our lives. We are moving next week and my fiance is beginning a new stage in his career where he will be extremely busy. We already have 3 wonderful little birds that really fulfill all of our needs (and they are very needy themselves!) and I just don't think it would be fair to add a LARGE parrot to the bunch. We will also be in an apartment that is smaller than what we are in now, so I don't want to be too crowded. I do appreciate everyone's advice about these birds, however, and it is definitely a pet I would consider in my later future as they seem to be wonderful to own! thanks again!
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