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Owning birds hurts when things go wrong. Pan and Nike got super insanely nesty and aggressive when we moved them outside. They weren't hands on but I could hold them in my hands to check leg bands and the like without issue. They had never lived as inside birds before and they just weren't happy inside.

Pan got out today. He's still in the backyard, still calling out and has been all day. Even though he and Nike weren't a breeding pair, they were incredibly close and I honestly think thats the only reason he's stuck around.

My mom is still hopeful we'll be able to catch him, but I'm a pessimistic realist and I see absolutely no chance of getting close enough to catch or net him in any way even though he's stuck around this long. We have food on the top of the cage, but hes sitting in a large tree in the yard of the house behind my next door neighbor. I don't know what to do. I seriously hate being a bird owner sometimes, I love them but not when my own stupid mistakes put them in danger.



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Aww sorry to hear I hope you can get him back!

It is definitely frustrating sometimes, Muffin has been in super crazy nesting mode since we moved into our new apartment 2 weeks ago, and in this place the bedrooms are on the same floor as the main living area so she has figured out there are a LOT more places to go hide under in there. She lays SUPER soft eggs, even though I give her calcium every single day. I'm wondering if she's just not absorbing it or if she just has other issues preventing her from being healthy I am so afraid that we will lose her eventually to egg binding or a related issue, it scares me so much. I wish she would just stop and be a normal bird, but she gets so focused on it, like it takes over her! I feel your frustration!
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This happened to my dad one time. You put the bird in the cage inside a smaller cage inside the larger cage and open the cage door, putting the food and water inside the cage as a lure?

My dad has a huge flight cage so this worked for him. He just closed the door when the other bird went in. I hope you get him back.

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It sucks the most because I know he is physically so close and I just can't do anything about it, as far as physically going after him.

I actually lost a 'tiel to perpetual egg laying recently, she suffered a prolapsed cloaca that multiple costly surgeries couldn't fix. So I definitely understand your worry there. :/ Try every hormone technique you can think of, its so scary when the birds we love have problems.

And 4thebirds, how did he manage to get the smaller cage into the larger one? I have several travel size cages that could work, they just wouldn't even remotely fit through the door, obviously. The cage we have them in could easily fit the smaller cage inside, its just a heavier metal set up and with how long we've had it, I'm not sure it would come apart so easily. I really wish Nike would flock call him, when he sets her up, she can really chatter up a storm. But she is normally just so dead silent. My mom was thinking about speakers playing conure calls but I don't know if it would help bring him in closer if he is able to recognize that it isn't her.



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Oh his cage was an aviary so it had a door. Maybe you can put the other bird in a separate cage right next to the main cage and leave the door open.

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My sister ran inside and said she saw him just a second ago. He flew back to our palm tree, then to the back fence. Almost caught him on the fence and he flew to the front yard but our gate is messed up enough that it took me too long to get out before he flew to a neighbors roof. Chased him from the roof with a pole at least to get him back towards our yard instead of the street and now hes in the neighbors back yard again. He is definitely sticking close by on purpose, he keeps circling back to our house when he could have flown straight away.

But I'll move Nike into a smaller cage and put it near by temporarily. Hopefully, though not in a good way, she gets agitated by the smaller cage enough to call out where he will hear her. Thank you for the suggestion.



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OMG this is so frustrating. I can imagine how you feel.

Good luck. I know how it is to loose a bird but I never had this type of experience
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WE GOT HIM. Holy freaking crapola, my dad flicked me on the head twice cause I kept cussing. lol. He landed on the cage, I missed. He flew to the putting green my dad has (dont even ask), and I missed BY A FREAKING INCH. Flew to the roof and the awning a couple times. Moved to the dog house for the tortoises nearby the cage, I missed again and he went and hit the side of the cage. Missed again. He flew around to the roof againn, the awning etc several times before hitting the side of the cage again. I went up and slammed myself against the cage with a blanket and realized he didn't appear. My dad grabbed corners of the blanket and I managed to grab Pan across the whole body and put him back in the cage.

Ho. Ly. Freak. Ing. Shizballs. I cannot even believe that just happened. My adrenaline is spiking and I'm freaking out. Both the birds were breeders previously but have never had a clutch together. Something about her kept him nearby, in a way that I have never seen before. I lost Rhea's mate, Atlas, and he never once appeared again. Pan has stayed by the house, despite our SO MANY failed capture attempts and despite everything he stayed close. I'm dying inside right now. I never even for a second thought this would ever be possible.



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! Awesome news!!!
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Wow. Worst fear turns into happy ending! Soo happy for you!
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I honestly still can't believe it. How many times I tried to catch him and failed. There was more than a dozen times in the first hour alone when he was in our neighbors yard. He kept switching trees but never just flew away. Then how many times when my sister saw him.. and then how many times right before we managed to catch him. He had way too many opportunities to just disappear for good. He was more determined to get back to Nike than he was afraid of us, which just amazes me.

There is just no way he ever should have been caught again. I have a deep cut across my nose right now just from leaning too close to the cage. My mom and I both have cuts on our hands from even trying to change the food dishes which swing outward from the cage itself. He had become the king of sneaking in a bite when you don't even think he can. I don't blame him at all, he has become aggressively protective of Nike. Its just taking that into account, I cannot believe he willingly dealt with us being such jerks trying to catch him.



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I'm sooooo happy you caught this little guy. I so appreciate the hard work that both you and your family put out to catch him. Words can't express.....

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I wish I had pictures of my mom running around a mini grove of these thin stick like trees on a crazy steep hillside, a foot deep in dead leaves and spiderwebs, with the pool cleaning net on a 15ft pole and a blanket wrapped around her shoulders to throw if she got the chance. She felt so awful and cried after Pan got out and tried so hard to help, she wasn't home when we got him but shes seriously my hero in this one. Hands down.

We're all a bit crazy about our birds. They really are special creatures. And thanks (: hes such an absolute dork!



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Aww sorry to hear I hope you can get him back!

It is definitely frustrating sometimes, Muffin has been in super crazy nesting mode since we moved into our new apartment 2 weeks ago, and in this place the bedrooms are on the same floor as the main living area so she has figured out there are a LOT more places to go hide under in there. She lays SUPER soft eggs, even though I give her calcium every single day. I'm wondering if she's just not absorbing it or if she just has other issues preventing her from being healthy I am so afraid that we will lose her eventually to egg binding or a related issue, it scares me so much. I wish she would just stop and be a normal bird, but she gets so focused on it, like it takes over her! I feel your frustration!
Calcium by itself is no good. The bird (and all other animals) need vit D3 to absorb it into their system (we call it 'vitamin' but it acts more like a hormone), otherwise it just goes in one end and comes out the other. Please give her some Calciboost (or a similar avian liquid calcium) in her water 5 days in a row.

Great news! So glad you managed to catch him!

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OMG this is so frustrating. I can imagine how you feel.

Good luck. I know how it is to loose a bird but I never had this type of experience

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Yay!!! So glad you caught him!!!

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Calcium by itself is no good. The bird (and all other animals) need vit D3 to absorb it into their system (we call it 'vitamin' but it acts more like a hormone), otherwise it just goes in one end and comes out the other. Please give her some Calciboost (or a similar avian liquid calcium) in her water 5 days in a row.
The calcium liquid I give her has D3 in it, but I just don't think she gets enough UV to supplement. I have an Avian Sunlamp that I turn on daily, but I try not to keep it on too long because the bright light keeps those hormones going. It's a double edged sword and she is so determined. It's been a year and she's laid about every season. Hopefully this cycle is over soon!
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YAY! Congrats! I am SOO happy you got him back! That was an extremely scary experience and I hope you'll never go through that again!

Do you feel that you have enough cockatiels? LO

Actually, no. LOL I feel like I am responsible enough to handle them. My cockatiels live in an outdoor aviary. I am planning on getting a Princess Of Wales parrot. They are the only type of species that I have heard of that gets along with cockatiels great! I heard they are very friendly and sweet. But I'm not getting anymore birds until I re-model my aviary. It needs some big changes.
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WOW, this was an exciting bird chase, I'm so happy that you got him back.
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I wish I had pictures of my mom running around a mini grove of these thin stick like trees on a crazy steep hillside, a foot deep in dead leaves and spiderwebs, with the pool cleaning net on a 15ft pole and a blanket wrapped around her shoulders to throw if she got the chance. She felt so awful and cried after Pan got out and tried so hard to help, she wasn't home when we got him but shes seriously my hero in this one. Hands down.

We're all a bit crazy about our birds. They really are special creatures. And thanks (: hes such an absolute dork!
YAY!!!! So glad you got him back! Your mom is great for helping as she did and the story of is funny-but only because you got him back. Congrats

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Its way easier to laugh about the circumstance knowing theres a happy ending, for sure. it was a pretty crazy day overall, no better ending than the way it ended up.



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