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Question Which bird and cage to buy?

Hey guys,

I used to have tame birds when I was much younger and I'd like to get another tame bird now. Just wondering:

1) What bird should I buy? My wish list:
- Something around the size of a cockatiel - ring neck
- Not too loud (going to keep it inside)
- Is okay by itself
- Not too messy (I've always loved rainbow lorikeets but their wattery poos is a dealbreaker)
- Looking to spend anywhere up to say $600 or so

2) What cage should I buy? My wish list:
- Something which gives the bird plenty of room to play in
- Something where they won't flick seeds etc onto the floor, and is easy to clean!
- Preferably something where the top opens up and they can sit on top. Or alternatively, an add-on or separate playground they can sit on?

I have nieces and nephews (2 - 5 years old) which often stay over so I need to train the bird to be extra friendly with kids. I assume the secret to this is to get the bird as young as possible and just get it used to people form a young age?

I'm in Sydney NSW, if that makes any difference to availability of birds and/or products...

Much appreciated!
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A green cheek conure in a flight cage simple!

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Must agree with Daisy! GCC with cage would fit your budget, they are fairly quiet, trainable, cuddly, and charming!
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I third the motion, I love my greenie, she is my tamest and cuddliest bird... Even more cuddlier than my tiel who is going thru a snotty phase. One thing tho is that all parrots can and will nip. No parrot is suitable for unsupervised play with children that young (not saying you will, just not sure how much experience and knowledge you have, if I am stating the obvious, then please forgive me.) I have an HQ flight cage and love it, you can get a seed skirt to help contain the mess however my greenie is also my least messy bird, well at least she is tied with my parrotlet.
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Hey guys,

I was hoping to buy a bird this week but it seems like I need to do a lot more research before I do so! I'm going to visit a couple pet shops this week to see them in person, learn more about them, and I'm going to do some more research before buying one.

A GCC sounds like a good option though!

I wouldn't leave a bird alone with the kids Although we have dogs, cat, chickens, sheep etc and the kids are used to all of them so they are better than most kids will be with birds.

Keep the advice coming!

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Hey guys,

I was hoping to buy a bird this week but it seems like I need to do a lot more research before I do so! I'm going to visit a couple pet shops this week to see them in person, learn more about them, and I'm going to do some more research before buying one.

A GCC sounds like a good option though!

I wouldn't leave a bird alone with the kids Although we have dogs, cat, chickens, sheep etc and the kids are used to all of them so they are better than most kids will be with birds.

Keep the advice coming!

Cheers
So happy to hear you are going to hold off while you do research... So many people (I'm guilty) get a parrot with little to no research (I found out that you tube videos do NOT count as research!) and end up with a snotty, opinionated, loud, yappy, nippy, sassy, bratty, parrotlet..lol or another unsuitable parrot. (Yes I have a brat of a parrotlet and will until one of us is gone)
So nice to see kids raised to respect critters, I always did that with my kids... But so many kids don't understand how to act with animals or just don't care and that's a shame.
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So happy to hear you are going to hold off while you do research... So many people (I'm guilty) get a parrot with little to no research (I found out that you tube videos do NOT count as research!) and end up with a snotty, opinionated, loud, yappy, nippy, sassy, bratty, parrotlet..lol or another unsuitable parrot. (Yes I have a brat of a parrotlet and will until one of us is gone)
So nice to see kids raised to respect critters, I always did that with my kids... But so many kids don't understand how to act with animals or just don't care and that's a shame.
I did my research and chose a parrotlet and he is not a brat. The least brattiest of my birds in fact, but generally parrotlets aren't family birds I don't think (meaning families with kids). Their temperament and their size don't make them the best option for kids. So I agree which the suggestion of GCC but beware, as they are also very nippy birds. The pet stores in my area also call them or their personality as the Dennis the Menace of the parrot group. Of the conure group, they are also known to be more moody.

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I did my research and chose a parrotlet and he is not a brat. The least brattiest of my birds in fact, but generally parrotlets aren't family birds I don't think (meaning families with kids). Their temperament and their size don't make them the best option for kids. So I agree which the suggestion of GCC but beware, as they are also very nippy birds. The pet stores in my area also call them or their personality as the Dennis the Menace of the parrot group. Of the conure group, they are also known to be more moody.

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You likely did your research and ended up with a un bratty parrotlet cuz you knew what to look for...lol. I however spotted mine in a petstore and bought him... After all he was only tiny how much damage can he do? For the record I love my little blue brat, but he is a hard headed little nut. I did not mean to offend. My green cheek can be nippy with some people, but rarely ever nips me, but yes they do have that rep. They are easily (in my opinion) corrected out of it tho.
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You likely did your research and ended up with a un bratty parrotlet cuz you knew what to look for...lol. I however spotted mine in a petstore and bought him... After all he was only tiny how much damage can he do? For the record I love my little blue brat, but he is a hard headed little nut. I did not mean to offend. My green cheek can be nippy with some people, but rarely ever nips me, but yes they do have that rep. They are easily (in my opinion) corrected out of it tho.
Nippy or not, I like both species. No offense was taken. Each bird is an individual within their species too so it all depends. It also, in my opinion, depends on how they mesh (sp?) with their primary care giver's personality.

I know a lady with two gccs and a sun conure and she said the kids preferred the sun conure as his mood was more easy going and he didn't really bite. Weird because you'd think kids would be scared of bigger birds. I have also been told that male pf lovebirds are very easy going and great with multiple people and kids if hand raised.

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Thanks so much for all the advice, guys.

At this stage I'm leaning towards either a crimson bellied conure or green cheek conure (yellow sided). From the research I've done and from speaking to Berkshire Park Bird Farm, Kellyville Pets etc today, they seem to be quiet and pretty smart.

They're very hard to find this time of year though. Birdsville has some around 14 weeks, and I've found a breeder who has a crimson bellied one at 14 weeks as well.

I'm not sure if I should go with the one from the breeder (more attention given to it as he and his kids play with it) or go to Birdsville (more to choose from, but probably not as friendly). I'm thinking the breeder is the way to go - I'm going to go look at it tomorrow. The only problem is he said it bites a little bit - I'm hoping it's just a phase and it may be because there are about 7 people playing with it...

Is the biting thing just a phase usually?

Cheers again for all the help thus far!
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I have never had a conure, but would love to own one some day and from what I have read biting/nipping can be a juvenile habit. They are "testing" everything with their beaks, and they do love to chew things, they don't necessarily mean to hurt. I believe it is a behavior that can be managed with proper and consistent training and positive reinforcement. I'm sure other conure owners can attest to the early stages of conure behavior I think it is best for you to go to both places, if possible, and meet the birds. You never know what bird might pick YOU!
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Guys, thanks so much for all the advice.

UNFORTUNATELY, my parents won't let me have a bird in the house (I've had 2 birds before, when I was much younger). They will let me keep a bird outside, but I know that conures aren't the sort of bird you can just keep outside and play with an hour a day, they need human interaction as much as possible. I wouldn't want to buy one if I couldn't keep it inside and give it the detention it deserves...

Also I have 2 dogs and a cat outside so it wouldn't be a great spot for the bird.

I'll keep trying to convince them to let me keep it inside but it doesn't look like it's going to happen, which is a real shame!

Thanks anyway for all the help

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If you could have an aviary outdoors then you could have multiple conures? My conures did better in pairs and definitely still enjoyed my company too I'm sorry to hear they don't want you to have them in the house though. Crimson bellied conures also make wonderful companions, in fact, I love all of the pyhurra conures

The nipping is a phase yes. They're very touchy feely birds and shove everything into their beaks. What can be seen as aggression could just be testing, no harm meant at all. It's really easy to break them out of it too

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