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Bit of a Delimma: Amazon or Eclectus

If you had to choose between a 9 year old Blue Front Amazon male and a 3 year old male Eclectus, which would you choose and why?

Believe me, I would to have both, but my wife says one or the other.
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I would choose them solely on personality and which one you feel most connected to.

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I think Kirsten gave you very good advice, however I would choose the Eclectus. A male Eclectus is something I have always wanted and I am not sure I could tolerate the volume of an Amazon. Good luck!
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It depends; what are you looking for? Ekkies are generally more laid back, quiet, and mellow but have more specific dietary needs. Amazons are more talkative, hyper, and actively interactive, but much louder. Neither are a very hands on bird. I would almost lean towards the Amazon, in a way, because he's already a sexually mature adult. The Ekkie is entering sexual maturity in a year or so and will become hormonal and moody for a while, but he will grow out of that



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I would choose them solely on personality and which one you feel most connected to.
Although I would love that opportunity, I won't be afforded that with the Amazon.

Here's the story. A lady has an Amazon that she has raised for several years, but unfortunately, she started travelling and has had to board him with friends. But that situation is coming to an end. Now, she lives 35 miles from me. But her amazon is boarded 200 miles from me. She wants to go up and get him and bring him back down to me. Problem is, once I receive the bird, I can't just decide he's not going to work for me because where she stays at now won't allow the bird. Although I have seen pictures, I won't be able to interact with the bird before commiting. But a Blue Front Amazon is one of my dream birds.

Now the Eclectus on the other hand is a different story. The owner lives 25 miles from me and wants to bring the bird over to me to see how we bond together before SHE commits to the deal. Although the eclectus will come to anyone and is supposed to be hand tame, he strongly bonded with her husband, who passed away earlier this year. The Eclectus was devistated. The owner has since taken a job and has been working for the past three months and hasn't been able to spend as much time with the bird other than in the morning and an hour or two in the evening. She said he started plucking feathers around his legs, which is a sign of stress.

Her husband worked at home so he was with the eclectus all day. But she can't afford to do that. I on the other hand am retired so I have plenty of time.

Now, I could take in both birds, BUT MY WIFE HAS DECIDED THAT AIN'T NO OPTION. I can take in one and only one so I have to decide. I currently have a 18 month old Senegal that is being spoiled rotten.

The main reason they would like me to home their birds is that I'm a bird lover, but I also live within 35 miles of both owners so they would be able to visit their birds and see how they are doing.

But now you see the pickle i'm in.

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Can you tell the Amazon owner to give you a week and see if you bond with the Ekkie? If you don't bond with the Ekkie - then you can take a risk with the Amazon. The Ekkie may make the decision for you, he may fall in love with you OR he may not stand the sight of you, either way then you know

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On another note, do you love your Senegal? I am considering a Senegal for my next/last? bird and am wondering how you are enjoying yours...
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Can you tell the Amazon owner to give you a week and see if you bond with the Ekkie? If you don't bond with the Ekkie - then you can take a risk with the Amazon. The Ekkie may make the decision for you, he may fall in love with you OR he may not stand the sight of you, either way then you know

Just my two cents -
On another note, do you love your Senegal? I am considering a Senegal for my next/last? bird and am wondering how you are enjoying yours...

Thanks, I love my Sennie. She is a second hand bird. I got her when she was 11 months old. To me, they are as close to the perfect bird as you can get. Very loving, but independant at times, big personality in a smaller package so shoulder riding is no problem or like mine likes to do is sit on my knee will I'm on the computer. She is either on me or next to me from the time we get up to the time I put her to bed.

In this picture, she's keep notes on me.

But I'm here to tell you, she is no apartment bird like they claim. She has a squawk that can wake the dead I think and she doesn't mind using it when she wants to get her way or to vocalize. Sennie's aren't as laid back as the Meyers, so they can be a bit nippy when they want. For this reason, I call them the Dr. Jekyl & Mr. Hyde of the parrot world. Sweet as can be one minute and nippy the next.
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Hmm, it's definitely a toughie. They are both beautiful birds. Do you have the time to visit the ekkie once before choosing the amazon? The ekkie sounds like he may be coming with more baggage than the amazon; ekkies are known to be pluckers, so that may be a habit that continues once he's started.



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Good luck with this. Personally I'd most likely take the Amazon, as Jenny said, the Ekkie has got a lot of baggage with it. They're both absolutely stunning birds and it is such a shame that you can't take both. Go with what ever you feel is best for you

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If the amazon is one of your dream birds then maybe that's the way to go. The ekkie's story does tug at the heartstrings though. I just wonder if you really want an amazon but get the other would you be happy with the other or would you still be dreaming about the amazon?
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I would go for the Amazon

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Here's the latest up date. The Eclectus owner is going to bring her eclectus by Saturday to meet my wife and I and to see how we get along with him. Also so the current owner can she our home and where we would be keeping her bird if we all agreed to the adoption.

The current owner also wants me to agree that for any reason in the near future that I would be able to care for her bird further, she would accept him back. So far there is no commitment between us and the current owner. Saturday will only be for a visit and then if we decide to accpt him, we will go and pick up him and his belongings later.

The current owner is a very nice lady, who had recently lost her husband and unfortunately has fallen onto a little bit of hard times. But I have told myself that I will not allow emotions to play a part in this no matter how badly I may feel for the owner.

I feel good about this due to no obligation on either party, unlike with the Amazon, which I wouldn't be able to interact with until the owner brought him down to me. Unfortunately there would have been an obligation there because I would have to agree to take him before she went to get him since she can't keep him where she is currently staying.

But we'll see how it goes from here.
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If the amazon is one of your dream birds then maybe that's the way to go. The ekkie's story does tug at the heartstrings though. I just wonder if you really want an amazon but get the other would you be happy with the other or would you still be dreaming about the amazon?
I'm a bird lover, although I would dearly love to have an Amazon, I also would love to have an African Grey and a Macaw. I wasn't really looking for a Senegal when I got Tiki, I just saw an ad on Craigslist and checked it out and fell in love with her the moment I saw her. I've never thought about Eclectus's because they aren't that common around my area. But if I meet the Eclectus and something sparks, I will forget all about the Amazon at least for awhile anyway. Who knows, maybe I could my wife into another bird down the road.

I care more about the individuality of the bird than I do about the species. I have seen some Amazon's I wasn't particularly fond of and others I would have give a right toe for.
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personally myself, id go for the ekkie. i know there's baggage, but it doesnt sound irreversible yet. a little bit of plucking may go away if he has a new owner to spend lots of time with him like his old favourite owner did. with time and more attention he may stop doing it



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Sounds like a great plan and it's nice to see the previous owner be so concerned for the birds future Let us know how the meeting goes!



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Good luck with the meet and greet! I hope it goes well. I agree that it's more about the individual bird and when you meet one you click with you just know it. Let us know what happens.
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Thanks for the update. I'm excited to hear how the visit goes this Saturday! I think it will be very telling, especially sense it sounds like you have a really good head on your shoulders.
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it's good to know that the owner is so caring about her bird and it's well being.

I hope everything goes okay for you on Saturday, you may totally fall in love with the ekkie, they're wonderful birds. As Casey said, you could stop the plucking easily by giving him tons of love and attention that he deserves

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