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Advice for a friend?

My friend is moving into a condo~

Her realtor told her birds were okay in the building. The manager said "no, they're unsanitary and noisy", but the paperwork says nothing about birds not being allowed.

She's experienced with everything from songbirds to parrots to raptors, having interned at two wildlife rehabilitation clinics, and volunteered at a parrot rescue. She's also parrot-sat for friends before, etc so she knows what she's getting into, and has actually been desperate for a parrot for years and wants to make sure she makes the right decision, if it turns out parrots are allowed in her building.

Obviously, she's going to look into this further and get the conflicting information sorted out before she makes any decisions, but she wanted me to ask what the quietest parrot possible is that would be appropriate for apartment living, that is easily obtainable in the US. She understands that parrots make noise, she's just concerned because even if parrots are allowed in the building, the policy is that if a neighbor complains about any pet, she would have to rehome it. She already has an experienced bird owner as a backup home should anything happen. She wants something she can bond to that will bond with her in return, and says she will consider a non-parrot bird if she has to.

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I had a parrotlet and budgies in apartments for 10 years. I never had a neighbor that knew I had birds until I asked if they could hear them. My parrotlets are quieter then my budgies, but can flock call just as loud. They just don't sing as much.
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I also would recommend a budgie, or if she can find them, a pair of linnies. Not only are my linnies quiet, but they are non destructive too. I think that is another problem to be considered when renting, because some birds can do a number on wood moldings.

As a non parrot, has she considered ringneck doves, they are pretty calm, can bond, and don't scream. I heard some males can coo incessantly, but I'm not sure how loud that would be. I almost got some before I found out about linnies.

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I've had ringneck doves and two out of four family members complain that they're too loud with constant cooing and 'laughing', and one of them came to me from an owner who was rehoming because of the noise, so that's probably not a good option for her. I'll mention parakeets (as we call budgies here) and linnies to her, but I'd never seen or heard of a linny until I came to this forum, so I'm not sure how available they are in this area. Thanks guys! Any other suggestions? A rescue recommended a female cockatiel. Thoughts on that?

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I've had ringneck doves and two out of four family members complain that they're too loud with constant cooing and 'laughing', and one of them came to me from an owner who was rehoming because of the noise, so that's probably not a good option for her. I'll mention parakeets (as we call budgies here) and linnies to her, but I'd never seen or heard of a linny until I came to this forum, so I'm not sure how available they are in this area. Thanks guys! Any other suggestions? A rescue recommended a female cockatiel. Thoughts on that?
I have a female cockatiel, a male cockatiel, a female (I think) green cheek conure, a male parrotlet and 5 budgies. (you must be in canada...lol or at least not in the states) my female tiel can be VERY loud when she is flock calling me. however her normal vocalizations are fairly quiet. The male has only been here for a couple of weeks and he is quiet most of the time untill he gets whistling the wild bird calls, then he really cranks up the volume, in my opinion neither one would be good for an appartment with less than great sound proofing between units. My green cheek is a very quiet bird with only a few contact calls here and there that are not that loud and little whistles, grunts and rubber ducky noises once in a while. However I have heard son green cheeks can be very loud also. my budgies are loud as a flock however a single budgie is not a very loud bird. My parrotlet gets very noisy at times... annoyingly so , but not sure if his volume would carry far. A single male english budgie would be an ideal pet, very friendly if hand raised, some can get snuggly , some not, depends on the bird. They have the potential to be extremely good talkers also. If looking for a more ornamental type pet, how about finches. they are more for looking than interacting and are charming little goofs who do not make much noise.
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(I'm in the states. I said in the original post that we're in the states. Budgies are called parakeets in this part of the states, anyways)

She knows from my green cheek that they're not an option for her because when he does make loud noise, its very loud and not nice to have to listen to, and even if its very infrequent, people complain.

I'll relay your advice about 'tiels to her, thanks!

She doesn't want for-looking, she wants a pet she can bond to, so finches are out.

Its sounding like a parakeet will be the best option for her. She would ideally like to get something larger than that but will take what she can get.

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(I'm in the states. I said in the original post that we're in the states. Budgies are called parakeets in this part of the states, anyways)

She knows from my green cheek that they're not an option for her because when he does make loud noise, its very loud and not nice to have to listen to, and even if its very infrequent, people complain.

I'll relay your advice about 'tiels to her, thanks!

She doesn't want for-looking, she wants a pet she can bond to, so finches are out.

Its sounding like a parakeet will be the best option for her. She would ideally like to get something larger than that but will take what she can get.
Opps I read that wrong... I took it that you called them budgies where you were... Canadians call them budgies and Americans call them parakeets. I am Canadian living in the States...lol so when I say budgie, no one knows what I am talking about. My observations are about my birds only as I have no hands on experience with other ones.. oh and quakers are very loud also, my in laws have one and he LOVES to squawk at the top of his lungs.
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I'm not sure that quakers are legal to have here anyway - I don't remember off the top of my head if we're one of the no-quaker states, but I know I've never seen any for sale in any pet stores, or craigslist, etc

She's really confused right now to be honest, because the rescue recommended a female cockatiel, but people here are saying even that might be too loud. She says information never matches up when she tries to research quiet apartment-okay parrots and that its frustrating, which I understand. Hopefully this all gets sorted out soon.

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Okay so my friend talked to a pet store manager whom she's known since she was a kid, and the manager told her parakeets are "screamers" and to get a female cockatiel. She trusts her, but I've never heard of a parakeet "screaming" before? Or do they "scream" in a different way than a conure does?

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Okay so my friend talked to a pet store manager whom she's known since she was a kid, and the manager told her parakeets are "screamers" and to get a female cockatiel. She trusts her, but I've never heard of a parakeet "screaming" before? Or do they "scream" in a different way than a conure does?
my budgies are chatterers, but not screamers, never heard of that... they can get sqwauky (is that a real word??) if they are bothering each other, which can be loud but they don't have the volume a tiel would have. I think female tiels are generally thought of as quieter, but that is all relative to quieter than what?...lol Mine is loud however I am sure there are quiet ones out there.
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I relayed all of this to her, she said she really wants something other than a parakeet and is leaning towards a cockatiel.

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i think a single tiel is a pretty good choice. They can be loud, but so can a teen playing video games and they don't ban those...lol they are only vocal,during the daytime hours and are quiet all night during the dark unlike some partying neighbours!
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I have 2 female cockatiels and I live in an apartment... I can hear them from outside when I leave for work in the morning even with all the doors and windows shut. I leave the radio on for them when I leave and really hope they don't do that all day! I know for a fact my neighbors can hear them because I can hear their phones through the wall. However, I am lucky that they have not complained. My birds are extremely attached and flock call when they can't see me or when they hear the door. I also have an English budgie and for the most part he is very quiet. He does get into his "mad chirps" once in a while and loves to chatter, but the chatter is nothing compared to the tiels. I would look into a budgie (or a pair) or even Bourke parakeets, they are pretty rare but are said to be a very quiet mellow bird
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I have a female cockatiel, a male cockatiel, a female (I think) green cheek conure, a male parrotlet and 5 budgies. (you must be in canada...lol or at least not in the states) my female tiel can be VERY loud when she is flock calling me. however her normal vocalizations are fairly quiet. The male has only been here for a couple of weeks and he is quiet most of the time untill he gets whistling the wild bird calls, then he really cranks up the volume, in my opinion neither one would be good for an appartment with less than great sound proofing between units. My green cheek is a very quiet bird with only a few contact calls here and there that are not that loud and little whistles, grunts and rubber ducky noises once in a while. However I have heard son green cheeks can be very loud also. my budgies are loud as a flock however a single budgie is not a very loud bird. My parrotlet gets very noisy at times... annoyingly so , but not sure if his volume would carry far. A single male english budgie would be an ideal pet, very friendly if hand raised, some can get snuggly , some not, depends on the bird. They have the potential to be extremely good talkers also. If looking for a more ornamental type pet, how about finches. they are more for looking than interacting and are charming little goofs who do not make much noise.
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I've not ever heard any of my budgies scream and I have a flock that rivals that of the wild birds I love my budgies and I think they can make absolutely awesome little birds! They can be loud chattering away but it's nothing I think neighbours would be able to hear in an apartment if it were to be a single bird. Being as she's already leaning towards the female cockatiel then there's not much point in saying anything else but tell her to not dismiss the smaller guys

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