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hello I am having a serious probalem with my 2 year old pineapple conure atlas. We use to be best friends and I recently got another bird that he grew up with so he would not be lonely when I was at work. They get along pretty well but have a few stiffs here And there but they seem to love each other. I moved about a month ago and since getting her and moving, atlas has been latching on to my fingers whenever I go near him. He has my one index finger completely covered in deep cuts that scar my hand. I have tried my hardest to gain his trust and I don't know why he's so angry at me. He won't let me pet him or pick him up and he use to be my little cuddle buddy and follow me everywhere. We have made some small progress but I don't know how much more I can take because my hands are still recovering. I don't scream or yell when he does it and I bite my lip so I don't encourage him. I'm going to get his wings clipped but I feel bad doing that because birds should be able to fly in my opinion. Any advice would be extremely appreciated
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She could be feeling stressed by the move and that is making her cranky. A month is not an unreasonable time for her to settle, she might need more time. Perhaps you can leave atlas alone for a while. Continue to take care of her, talk to her, etc, but don't try to pick her up. Treat her like a new bird. That's what I would try...a few weeks of not being let out of the cage is better in my opinion than a year with clipped wings.

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Eedie, please don't clip the wings!
If you did it Iwould be afraid the problems between you become more and not less.

Is Atlas already adult or might he be going through his puberty?
Are the two parrots are living in one or two cages? What is the cage size?
How many hours of free flight do they have?
Could it be that in nature the breeding time begins and he is defending his territory?
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He's about 2 right now and atlas and Delphi live together in a very decent size cage. They were together growing up and when I got him he had been away from here for about 6 months and then we 're introduced them and they lived separately for awhile and now live together and get along well. They both get about 2 hours at least a day for running around and doing as they please. I'm afraid leaving them in the cage that long without my interaction will make them even more angry at me. I don't think atlas is scared at all because he doesn't show signs of being afraid. It feels like He feels dominant over me and Delphi. He bites everything accept Delphi whether it's sheets or wood and really just whatever he can get
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I was unclear, I didn't mean not interacting with your birds, but to stop trying to pick him up. Since he is a bird that bites, treat him like a bird that bites . You can use a stick to pick him up, but try not to force him on the stick. Lure him with food or toys.

Most research shows that birds do not have a dominance mentality. He is probably stressed. Think about how a stressed person is a lot more snappy and short tempered and more likely to have outbursts. Birds tend to bite. My one linnie gets moody, although he doesn't bite, he gets more flighty and aloof. During that time, I can't pick him up, so I dont. I use a stick to get him. I'm just saying that just because you're able to pick up a bird one day doesn't mean you can every day.

I hope that makes sense.

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I wonder if he is hitting puberty and has raging hormones, What age do suns go thru puberty?
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Oh ok that makes more sense but he likes to fly over to me and sit on my shoulder and sometimes he will let me get him but sometimes he gets very bitey. I'll have to find out a way to get him to stop because I don't let them on my shoulders in the first place
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It does sound like hormonal, or protective behavior.
Height dominance is not generally a bird thing, It is a high place so they feel safer there than lower down. but they need to earn the right to ride on your shoulder. And from the shoulder it is easy for them to bite as you cannot see it coming. Does he bite from the shoulder or at other times.
While clipping can calm them down it should be only as a last resort as it can also back fire on you.
You need to win his confidence not destroy it. Love and trust is a must through times like this. If he is only biting when you try to interact then try to avoid those times. You could read up on redirecting the beak by tarket training.


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Hi there.
I just thought I would share my own experience in case it helps at all.

I had lovebirds and cockatiels that bonded in pairs and exhibited the same behaviour. What I did was let the birds out to burn energy, then try to spend only about one or two minutes offering treats for good behaviour. For example, if I could stand near Buddy without her flying onto me and biting, I would reward her with a treat and leave it at that for a bit until I could eventually earn her that enough to pick her up again. It took me over 4 months to get back to a point where I could handle her, but it was worth the patience it took.
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