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Adopting an African Grey tomorrow :)

Tomorrow I'm adopting an African Grey with a plucking problem, I called parrotdise perch and talked to a specialist about parrot nutrition and plucking problems and she gave me some great ideas to stop the plucking. Like using bene-bac, figs, mineralized water, a aloe/water bath mist

I'm so annoyed I've been ordering food online all this time and then I just realized that Harrison's a vet brand, called my vets and they can order it for me, no more delivery charge yay!

So I'm super excited this has been my dream for a long long time

So question I know calcium is an issue with greys, what do you CAG owners feed your feathered friends, I chose the high potency Harrison's, although she's on zupreem right now. Organic sprouts/soaked seeds, mash, fruits and veggies, I ordered a five pound bag of the Harrison's, and some of their treats and bene-bac

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Congrats on the new addition, any idea of the sex? I'll be watching this space for pics and updates on all the great things you will experience with this beautiful bird.

I've tagged PeatreeLover for you, she adopted a cage bound grey a while back and has transformed this birds life!


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Oh thank you so much! My phones being silly and not letting me post a picture of her but when my iPads charged I'll post one I'm super excited to meet her, my stomachs in knots with excitement ha-ha. She is a female and her names Cozy

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Oh thank you so much! My phones being silly and not letting me post a picture of her but when my iPads charged I'll post one I'm super excited to meet her, my stomachs in knots with excitement ha-ha. She is a female and her names Cozy

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Congratulations on your new addition! Sorry I have been late to the party

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Congratulations on your new grey baby! Greys are so awesome! I adore my Grey Bird! <3

Do you know what is causing his plucking? Diet, boredom, health problem? GreyB plucked quite a bit when I first got him. I gave him attention and lots of other stuff to chew on, and he slowed down on it. He still plucks a little bit, I'm sure out of habit because of how long he plucked before I got him, but it is a lot better then before.

I feed Harrison's Lifetime Fine, along with daily fruits and veggies. He LOVES his fresh food! Some of his favorites are banana, grapes, corn, potato, apple. He is a really good eater! He will eat just about anything I give him, and will try anything. (Unlike a certain little cockatoo of mine...emhm....Jester) He also occasionally gets rice and pasta, which he loves.

As will all other birds, have patience. Patience is ever so important.
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Haha that's funny my cockatoo will eat anything, so far miss Cozy is quite picky! I have to add seed to everything to get her to try it lol, I mixed regular seeds with soaked organic seeds and she eats a bit of the soaked, I soak and mash the pellets and mix them with seed and she's slowly starting to eat that I think lol...I can't tell if she throws it all out, or if the other birds have gotten to it, she likes grapes alot, and mango, she only likes apple if its baked with some cinnamon, she won't touch banana or popcorn strangely lol, I'm vegan but I went out and got some eggs from a friend who has rescue chickens and more eggs then she can deal with and she liked her scrambled egg mixed with shell, she tried some chickpea salad I ate today and lime potato and sweet potato, she's addicted to peanuts, she asks for one a billion times a day, she goes nuts like a drug addict when she sees them, I'd like to wean her mostly off the peanuts but for now she gets a couple in the morning after she's eaten healthier food and in the evening. I'd like to get her off the seed and onto Harrison's pellets but it looks like that's going to take a bit of time which is okay but i know the diet change will help, she tried some coconut tumeric rice last night. Funny enough my new Linnie will eat anything right away, she ate rice, veggies, fruits, Harrison's super fine pellets, scrambled egg, soaked seeds, sprouted seeds, her favorite is prolly apple, I'm amazed by her, I've never had a bird that was so quick to try new things, my conures love new stuff too, my cockatiel will eat it if the conures do haha. What games and toys do you use for your grey and do you find she liked the fine pellets better then the course?
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Have you tried to see if she like birdie bread? If she likes that, that is a really good way to sneak healthy stuff into them. Yeah, I would slowly starts to wean her off of peanuts. They aren't good for our birds. Have you offered her any almonds? Those seem to be a hit with most birds. My Grey Bird loves them! He also loves pistachios. He used to love peanuts, but his previous owner said that he got sick from them, so he can't have any anymore.

Grey Bird's favorite toy is very simple. He likes cut up cardboard strung on a chain. He keeps chewing, and chewing, and chewing until it is all in shreds. LOL. Empty ceral boxes are also a hit! He likes rope toys, but I only let him have those when I am watching because he chews on it a lot and I worry that he could get caught on the frayed pieces. I hang calculator paper rolls in his cage, and he loves to tear that apart. Also toilet paper tubes! He isn't a big wood chewer, but I always keep a thin wood toy in there in hopes that he will chew on it to keep his beak nice. Sometimes he does chew it, but it isn't his favorite. He also enjoys easy foraging toys, but he has to be able to see the nut to want to play with it. He likes to play tug of war with me with a paper towel or toilet paper tube.

I'm not sure how he felt about the course pellets, because I didn't have him when he got switched to fine. His previous owner switched to fine because with the bigger ones he would crunch it, and drop most of the pellet. With the fine, he eats pretty much the whole pellet, and doesn't waste as much. I also have my cockatoo on pellets that are a size smaller to help with not wasting as much. But that doesn't stop him from throwing them on the ground. LOL.
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Thanks a lot I'll try those toys with her and see how she likes it. Great news she decided this morning that she really likes hazelnuts so I've switched her onto those and some flight feathers are coming in
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Thanks a lot I'll try those toys with her and see how she likes it. Great news she decided this morning that she really likes hazelnuts so I've switched her onto those and some flight feathers are coming in
I was going to suggest trying her on a few different types of nuts, there are tons of variety's of nuts in the shell available now its xmas time so grab a bunch of different ones and see if she likes any.





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Personally I don't feel the need for pellets any more. If I had a bird who was struggling to try fresh foods even with prolonged persistence I would probably start to offer them then but natural (in my opinion) doesn't get much better so there's no need to exclude some seeds/nuts etc. I would feed chop and offer fruits, seeds, nuts, treats and what not on the side. I have had a lot of success with improving the overall well-being of birds I've rescued/taken in using the natural diet
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I had tried her on almonds and she wasn't a fan and then I remembered I had hazelnuts in the freezer
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Do you use an organic mix of seeds Daisy, or what kind of seed do you use? Just sprouts?

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Nope, I use seed seeds and I buy locally haha I have my own mix made up for me and believe it or not... IT HAS A FEW SUNFLOWER SEEDS IN IT The horror! Hahaha. No but seriously I do! I buy locally sourced budgie mixes, cockatiel mixes and such and then I have my own made up. I combine that with As30 sunflower and peanut free seed mix and occasionally a 'treat mix' which is whatever I've bought at the time. They seem to enjoy it anyway! I'm not going to lie, I've not been able to sprout before. I've bought them from the store which I KNOW aren't as fresh but they've done the job. I'm terrible I know. I use loads of soak/cook mixes as well as pasta, rice, quinoa, couscous and such. Fruit is in a small portion daily and larger chopped, grated or whatever veggies are available as well as their chop so it's not all one boring bowl all the time. I like to make food fun or hard to get to as well to encourage foraging so they get their seeds in acrylic toys and what not
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That makes sense, and especially with all of the fruits and veggies, I like the pellets because I'm paranoid, I make a mix from bulk barn a lot of the time I just soak instead of sprout, they say as long as you soak 12 hours the germination process has started and then I do some sprouts as well but mainly they get the soaked stuff

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That makes sense, and especially with all of the fruits and veggies, I like the pellets because I'm paranoid, I make a mix from bulk barn a lot of the time I just soak instead of sprout, they say as long as you soak 12 hours the germination process has started and then I do some sprouts as well but mainly they get the soaked stuff

Do you have bee pollen for Cosy? I will tag Clive for you, he and I and a few others have talked about the benefits bee pollen can do for your bird/s.

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All too funny I was asked over on Happy Healthy Parrots (No Pellets) about feeding an CAG awhile back.
I had to point them to others as I know very little except they do need a different diet to a lot of other birds.

Soak seed, is not the same as sprouting. It is a precursor though and slightly better than dry seed.
We advise them as a stepping stone to sprouts, when trying to get stubborn birds to them.
Sorry Daisy! Everybody should be sprouting for their birds at least some of the time. They are one of the most healthy natural foods we can feed them.
And those shop bought ones are very suspect at best.
A: They are way past their prime nutritional best.
B: Most likely to have been treated to help keep them looking fresh.
Sprouts should not be kept for more than a few days. And thrown away when the tails are over 1/2in long.
I am sure I posted the link to my Sprouting thread over on AA. I do think it is one of the best.

I guess if you have to feed pellets then Harrisons is up towards the top of the list of Processed foods.
Why we started the group I mentioned was to help people move away from the indoctrination that you 'Do Need' to feed pellets.
I have a statement made by an AV to a rescue in America. Saying you are Killing Your Birds! As she does not feed pellets.
Another came on saying she felt intimidated to feed pellets by her vet.
It is not true birds do not get any processed foods in the wild, so why would they need them in captivity.
As Daisy has said 'She has always done well without them with the birds she has had'.
I am the same. I take in birds and they all do well or improve on the diets I sort for them. Which is 100% non processed. As natural as I can get it.

Sorry to have drifted off your questions.
Bee pollen is very good for them when they need more protein. Red Palm oil is also good for skin and feather.
But there are some things you need to keep in mind. Like where it is collected from. Manuka low in Protein. Gorse is very high. The only way you could find out is to talk to a bee keeper who knows these things.


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Oh I sprout as well for my birds, and my soaked seeds are done till tails appears, and organic, I soak and then sprout a day or two just till the tail appears I don't like to do it longer for their main seed meal in case of bacteria, I also sprout long sprouts for them but they don't get as much and they don't really eat it

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Ok Sorry most refer to Soak seed being just soaked over night. They are sprouts once the tails show.
Way too many people are scared off sprouting by the scaremongers who go on about bacteria and sprouts going off.
Things that can go wrong. Poor quality seed. Poor water quality. Poor practice. We even found one person who was having trouble, who was using a bought sprouter. The fix was easy once we talked over what was going on.
Poor air flow in the sprouter. They set up with one of the simple idea we showed them and 'Hey Presto" sprouts.
I only rinse twice a day, but also do this for the ones in the fridge as well. So as long as I have sprouts they get rinsed twice a day.
You can rinse in a vinegar mix solution if you are worried. I do not, and have not found any need to.
I certainly do not worry about so called organics. But source as many items as I can from local supplies.
And another thing to watch if you are sourcing many items is the different sprouting times. I.E. Grass seed, Maize, and Rice all take a long time to sprout. where as Mung Beans and Quinoa sprout very quickly.


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