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I work at a bird rescue that is jammed packed with unwanted birds. Im sure all us bird nuts is aware of this problem. Is there a way to simplify training or to educate people enough so they know what their buying into. Some how stop these petshops from selling without the proper information to people? What are your thoughts to solve this massive problem.


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Unfortunately, I think the only way that people will learn is by actually putting the effort in and wanting to learn. Breeders/stores/rescues should assess somebody on their knowledge before allowing them to take a bird and should always offer a sort of after-care service. A quick care guide to safe things can always be given with a bird too. I always stay in touch with customers and they are more than happy to bug me for advice because I enjoy giving it to them. If people don't ask they won't know. However, if they choose not to put the effort in that's their own fault
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In my case when I first got Charlie he was pretty quiet. I loved playing with him. As time went by the screaming got louder and louder. I have several Cockatiels and parakeets but his screaming go so bad over the course of a year that it became unbearable. Yesterday I ad to leave the house to get away from it.. I feel now, like I am his puppet and I have to do what he says or he will scream at me. Don't laugh it is not funny. I would never think a bird could be controlling me. The thing is, he is so dependent on me or jealous to be honest. He can not stand it if he is not on or right near me.
His screaming is making me go deaf, yes it is. I went to my doctor and I have an ear condition that has been getting so bad since he started to scream all day. The doctor told me if I do not find another home for my baby I just might either have my condition so bad I could not stand it or I could possibly go deaf. Right now just to keep him quiet he is on my shoulder pecking at my hair. I am desperate to find him a new home. I called a local fostering home. (I just stopped talking to him and he just bit my ear that is a first. Now he is attacking me) I called the foster home and I filled out some papers and emailed them back she will be happy to take him. But she is going on a business trip. I am freaking out since I truly am at the end of my rope. He truly is a wonderful bird, what has happened to him, I take full responsibility for. My inexperience caused me to become dependent on me more and more by each day. I am sorry to dump this on you but I thank you for being here so I could vent. This really is not my first post but it was so hard to sign in I decided to just re register. If anyone on the Ocean County NJ area would love a Beautiful Conure. let me know. You must be experienced with Conures and have one now. You also must be a contributor of this page. I will not just give him to just anyone... And please don't judge. This can't be helped, believe me I tried, I lived with this for over 2 years. Thank you
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In my case when I first got Charlie he was pretty quiet. I loved playing with him. As time went by the screaming got louder and louder. I have several Cockatiels and parakeets but his screaming go so bad over the course of a year that it became unbearable. Yesterday I ad to leave the house to get away from it.. I feel now, like I am his puppet and I have to do what he says or he will scream at me. Don't laugh it is not funny. I would never think a bird could be controlling me. The thing is, he is so dependent on me or jealous to be honest. He can not stand it if he is not on or right near me.
His screaming is making me go deaf, yes it is. I went to my doctor and I have an ear condition that has been getting so bad since he started to scream all day. The doctor told me if I do not find another home for my baby I just might either have my condition so bad I could not stand it or I could possibly go deaf. Right now just to keep him quiet he is on my shoulder pecking at my hair. I am desperate to find him a new home. I called a local fostering home. (I just stopped talking to him and he just bit my ear that is a first. Now he is attacking me) I called the foster home and I filled out some papers and emailed them back she will be happy to take him. But she is going on a business trip. I am freaking out since I truly am at the end of my rope. He truly is a wonderful bird, what has happened to him, I take full responsibility for. My inexperience caused me to become dependent on me more and more by each day. I am sorry to dump this on you but I thank you for being here so I could vent. This really is not my first post but it was so hard to sign in I decided to just re register. If anyone on the Ocean County NJ area would love a Beautiful Conure. let me know. You must be experienced with Conures and have one now. You also must be a contributor of this page. I will not just give him to just anyone... And please don't judge. This can't be helped, believe me I tried, I lived with this for over 2 years. Thank you

I very sorry to hear you have had such a bad time with Charlie and his screaming. Some birds develop some loud lungs on them and see that screaming at you will get you to respond so they keep at it until its just too much.

I'm pleased you went the route with finding a foster home with people who know birds and can give him a good home. I hope this works for Charlie and he adapts well.

Thanks for sharing your post it must be hard for you to tell us all about this and you are brave for doing so. Good luck to you and Charlie.
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I don't know if there is an answer to solving the problems with unwanted birds ending up in shelters. If you look at humane societies and shelters you can see a huge amount of animals there like dogs cats mice/rats rabbits etc, if these animals are the norm so what makes birds any different?

I really think people don't do enough research into owning a bird, perhaps they think all they need is a cage some seeds and the bird will be fine. They don't realize this creature will call and sing/scream and voice displeasure and fear in its vocal way or they are unaware of the diet a bird truly needs. They don't understand the largest cage is the best cage needed or they don't understand a bird needs free flying time, exercise and human interaction daily for as much time you can possibly give it to help this bird be happy and healthy.

I also think people jump into owning birds because they look at peoples videos on youtube that show lovely hand tame budgies or tiels or other birds interacting and socially playing with their owners and they think "YEAH I WANT A BIRD THAT CAN DO THAT!"

The problem again is the person wanting that hand tame bird didn't do their homework and find a suitable breeder who had put time and effort into hand taming a bird for them. This person didn't want to pay $40 - $50 for a hand tame budgie when they can get a budgie at a pet shop for $15. They figure they can hand tame it themselves because they've seen this on youtube or some other video source and they know how to do it all themselves.

These are often the people who give up their pets because they just didn't do the homework needed to know what it takes to owning a bird.

Sadly its too easy to buy a bird anywhere today, you can get them at pet shops or breeders who do this to make a few extra dollars sometimes not knowing they are selling birds that are ill due to their lack of knowledge to care for breeding birds.

Its a vicious circle that had no answer..... but if anything I wish that all animals were controlled under a strict government that control who can adopt any animal be it dog cat rabbit bird or reptiles.
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Mr. Peepers, it is not always the way you say. I have had birds all my life. In fact I have two disabled Cockatiels and a parakeet. Some of us know how to deal with birds but sometimes you just get bad one for one reason or another. My Charlie just became too jealous and controlling. It is his personality something you don't know when you get them.
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Charlie's Mom, I think people don't realize how smart parrots are and because of that they underestimate the time and attention they need. But also because of that, they can un-learn (is that even a word?) bad behaviors. Acknowledging the screaming gave him attention, so he does every time. If you ignore the screaming (close the room door, or leave the house), and reward every time he's quiet, he will learn that quiet gets him more attention than screaming.

We used to have a Cockatoo who screamed. I would tell her very quietly that I didn't want to hear it and close the door. When she would stop screaming, I would go in and give her attention. Over time she learned and only screamed at sundown. We would acknowledge that and tell her thanks for letting us know! She learned only to scream for a few minutes a couple times a day and was the most wonderful friend ever for 28 years. I would hope it could be like this for you.

Now, it doesn't work for every bird and we did have another Cockatoo who screamed nonstop all day and night for a year after we got our dog and we did finally rehomed him after he also started picking on the the other Cockatoo (from the paragraph above). Turned out he just needed to be the center of someone's world without competition. Maybe it's the same with yours. Either way, thanks for sharing your story and I hope you find the right home for him.

Parrots are like children and need something to do and somewhere to go to keep from settling into bad behavior due to boredom. Even if the somewhere to go is a different room of the house to play with different toys or to learn something new.
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Missy Bird, I know not to react to the screaming and I have tried your method, he only screams more. I do think he is worth trying one more time. But I was told birds scream no matter what you do... it is in their DNA and ya can't change that.
I do not put my bird in another room, I think that is a form of punishment, something I was told never to do. Thank you I will try anything.
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What are your thoughts to solve this massive problem.
It needs more education, responsibility and respect for the bird as a living creature.
Breeders and owners of pet shops should encourage new bird owners to take part in bird forums or facebook groups. Bird keeping is a permanent learning because knowledge develops.

When I wanted to get parrots I was looking after lovies. Then I went to a pet shop to visit lovies, and they screamed so loud and permanent that I was sure I couldn't live together with them for one day.
When I got my linnies and Janosch died, I kept Paulchen alone for three days. He would become so demanding and screamed so loud when I left the room that I made a date with my breeder a soon as I could to get little Yuki. Paulchen has a tendency to scream, but I can keep it under control because he has his wife Yuki.

If a parrot chooses a human partner because there is no one of his species there will always be a high risk that he develops severe behavioral problems.
Charlie's Mom, thanks so much for looking for a place for Charly where there already is a conure.
I wish so much that he'll find a wonderful wife or the best buddy in the world.
Please let us know.
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It needs more education, responsibility and respect for the bird as a living creature.
Breeders and owners of pet shops should encourage new bird owners to take part in bird forums or facebook groups. Bird keeping is a permanent learning because knowledge develops.

When I wanted to get parrots I was looking after lovies. Then I went to a pet shop to visit lovies, and they screamed so loud and permanent that I was sure I couldn't live together with them for one day.
When I got my linnies and Janosch died, I kept Paulchen alone for three days. He would become so demanding and screamed so loud when I left the room that I made a date with my breeder a soon as I could to get little Yuki. Paulchen has a tendency to scream, but I can keep it under control because he has his wife Yuki.

If a parrot chooses a human partner because there is no one of his species there will always be a high risk that he develops severe behavioral problems.
Charlie's Mom, thanks so much for looking for a place for Charly where there already is a conure.
I wish so much that he'll find a wonderful wife or the best buddy in the world.
Please let us know.


I agree with your method of finding a partner for a loud bird. After I got a parakeet to keep my Lovebird company she wasn’t as loud, and eventually they didn’t chirp (loud) a lot unless they heard my voice. And if I ignored them they would become quiet and wait until I came into their room. One exception was dinner time when they were hungry.
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