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Question Female Eclectus

Does anyone on here have a male or female eclectus? My soon-to-be husband FINALLY stopped talking about getting a macaw and now wants a female eclectus! I can handle that! I've researched them a bit but I wanted to hear what they're like from someone that actually owns one. One thing I would really like to know is the typical behavior and noise level.. We are trying to find a small house to rent when we get married but just in case we have to move into an apartment for a while, I wanted to know how loud they can get..

Anyway.. Any eclectus owners on here?
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Eclectus I think are rare for people to own in terms of large Parrots because they have a really specialized diet. They basically can't really handle any dry food so you have to feed them a lot of fruit and veggies as their main diet with a bit of pellets and other fresh foods.
As for the behavior they are supposed to be shy and don't do well in busy/loud homes or in high traffic areas of the house.
I'm not sure how loud they are as the only Eclectus I've met in person didn't make a peep while I was around, lol.



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Eclectus I think are rare for people to own in terms of large Parrots because they have a really specialized diet. They basically can't really handle any dry food so you have to feed them a lot of fruit and veggies as their main diet with a bit of pellets and other fresh foods.
As for the behavior they are supposed to be shy and don't do well in busy/loud homes or in high traffic areas of the house.
I'm not sure how loud they are as the only Eclectus I've met in person didn't make a peep while I was around, lol.
Yea I knew about their weird diet! It's odd that they are the only parrot (to my knowledge) that can't handle the typical parrot diets! Thanks for your input I've been around a few and they didn't make any noise either.. Hopefully someone knows!
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Hopefully! An Eclectus is one of my dream birds so I'd like to know more about them too because there is always more to learn! I got an issue of Bird Talk magazine that had an Eclectus article, it was very good.



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I'm planning on a female Ekkie too. Isn't birdtalk wonderful, I love it
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I love the Female's color but I think I want a Male. Bird Talk most definitely is wonderful!!



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I want both at some point. I'm not sure why I got it in my head that I wanted a female first
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I've raised and worked with both male and females, though i haven't owned one personally. The males are more... affectionate? The females are just more moody and demanding, in my experience, whereas the males are more mellow and even tempered. As far as noise, they can certainly be loud when they want to but most of them I've worked with, either raising or grooming for clients, are usually pretty quiet. They're mediocre talkers, not super snuggly, but can be very affectionate in their own way.

Ekkies are prone to plucking, their diet is really particular, and they are prone to other feather and beak related problems due to diet. We had a client with a male Solomon ekkie whom had an overgrown beak from his first owner, and for over a year with her. She spent almost $1,000 on diagnostics, because it was needing trimmed every 2-3 weeks, growing almost 1 inchin that time! One day, she did some research, and took peanuts out of his diet - she was giving him 3-4 a day as a reward to tame him and bond, switched to almonds. Within 2 months, his beak was no longer overgrowing! Our vet, who is a VERY well known and knowledgeable vet, had no explanation other than we have no real idea or set good diet for ekkies in captivity, so for almost every one she knows it's all touch and go!

Not to scare you off - that was the first and only case I've ever seen that was so extreme. Mostly, with diet, it affects feather quality (gloss, shine, conformity) and can cause plucking, slight overgrowth or even undergrowth and thinness of beak and nails. I know colored pellets can cause a condition in ekkies that causes them to clench their feet and "rap" them, almost like palsy?

But they are really very gentle, mellow, sweet birds. People are right, they can be low key and sensitive to their environment, so if you plan on having kids and a loud household, then it may be best to wait until you HAVE kids and hustle and bustle so when you bring a baby home s/he is used to it off the bat.

As far as male vs female, I personally have found the females to be bratty and bossy. In the wild, females live in a tree with a harem of males feeding her, caring for her, and mating with her. So they're fairly genetically programmed to being spoiled and pampered, whereas males are more instinctively affectionate. Parrots aren't tame, so wild drives and instincts are still strong in them. The adult females I've seen are less prone to plucking, but more prone to screaming.

I don't know how all this relates to experiences others have had with owning an ekkie for long term, but this is all the feedback I've gotten from clients and experience with birds I've raised and birds I've groomed and worked with their owner's on taming, diet, etc at the pet shop. We sold one male ekkie at the shop in west palm to a family with 4 children, ages 12-5, who went to everyone, showered with Daddy, and was very mellow but did NOT want to be pet at all, even well hand raised and socialized. He went to them at about 6 months, I quit there when he was about a year old.

I hope all that helps, sorry for rambling a bit and the wall o text!



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What Jenny said!

I watched a really good show about that thing the males do. Hence why the males have to be green but the females don't. I personally would love a female Solomon island if I could but I won't bother until I'm moved. As said , they can be easily stressed!

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I think they're beautiful.
With research they can be lovely, hasn't Solace got one or getting one?
The females do have a harem of males feeding them but in turn the males have their own harem of females they are feeding. Look up Australia land of parrots on youtube. It's on there about them. Very interesting.
I think I need to look into Ekkies more, just out of curiosity.

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I've raised and worked with both male and females, though i haven't owned one personally. The males are more... affectionate? The females are just more moody and demanding, in my experience, whereas the males are more mellow and even tempered. As far as noise, they can certainly be loud when they want to but most of them I've worked with, either raising or grooming for clients, are usually pretty quiet. They're mediocre talkers, not super snuggly, but can be very affectionate in their own way.

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Not to scare you off - that was the first and only case I've ever seen that was so extreme. Mostly, with diet, it affects feather quality (gloss, shine, conformity) and can cause plucking, slight overgrowth or even undergrowth and thinness of beak and nails. I know colored pellets can cause a condition in ekkies that causes them to clench their feet and "rap" them, almost like palsy?

But they are really very gentle, mellow, sweet birds. People are right, they can be low key and sensitive to their environment, so if you plan on having kids and a loud household, then it may be best to wait until you HAVE kids and hustle and bustle so when you bring a baby home s/he is used to it off the bat.

As far as male vs female, I personally have found the females to be bratty and bossy. In the wild, females live in a tree with a harem of males feeding her, caring for her, and mating with her. So they're fairly genetically programmed to being spoiled and pampered, whereas males are more instinctively affectionate. Parrots aren't tame, so wild drives and instincts are still strong in them. The adult females I've seen are less prone to plucking, but more prone to screaming.

I don't know how all this relates to experiences others have had with owning an ekkie for long term, but this is all the feedback I've gotten from clients and experience with birds I've raised and birds I've groomed and worked with their owner's on taming, diet, etc at the pet shop. We sold one male ekkie at the shop in west palm to a family with 4 children, ages 12-5, who went to everyone, showered with Daddy, and was very mellow but did NOT want to be pet at all, even well hand raised and socialized. He went to them at about 6 months, I quit there when he was about a year old.

I hope all that helps, sorry for rambling a bit and the wall o text!
Great thank you for all the info! That helped a lot So pretty much the females are total divas and if we want a less demanding and cuddly bird, go with the male?
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I saw a female and male Ekkie for the first time a few months back and was shocked by the size of them. For some reason I thought they were NOT that big, huge shock.

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on another forum i am on quite a few people have ekkies and they say males are more loving and females are more bratty

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I think we have a lot to learn from female ekkies. I want a harem of doting men to spoil me. Lol

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Shannon that makes me wish my birds would sit still enough to learn something for five minutes! Very Cool



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I think we have a lot to learn from female ekkies. I want a harem of doting men to spoil me. Lol
One is enough trouble!

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Kate agreed, I have enough trouble trying to keep him amused lol



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But here is the beauty of it. They would have to keep you amused

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