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Senegal or TAG?

I am strongly deciding between these two birds and i have received mixed reviews about both of them.I am looking for a friendly smart bird who is trainable and cuddly. Also less aggressive. There are pros and cons of both bird that I like dislike.

Senegal I like because they are smart, cuddly, trainable but dislike because I heard they are very aggressive as they grow up and tends to bite more then other birds.

The tag I like because they are super smart and also trainable and is best talker( although talking isn't as important for me) but I don't like that they can be phobic and paranoid, feather pluckers and are not cuddly. Not being cuddly ( as in not being able to lay him on his back and pet him like I could do with senegal most likely) is the biggest negative.

So which bird is better for me? I would appreciate personal experiences from people of these pets and would be interested to know if the pros and cons are exaggerated. Also how your experiences with these pets are.
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Are these the only birds you are looking into?

You didn't say anything about noise, but if you are looking for a smart cuddly trainable bird I highly recommend a conure. They can be noisy at times(but most birds are) but they are highly affectionate if hand raised and socialized properly.

I don't have a Senegal or a TAG but I wish you the best of luck in your search!!


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I would go with the Senegal if having a cuddly bird is super important for you and if those are the only two choices that you would consider.
Aggression in Parrots can be managed as long as you are very consistent in your training. You would basically just need to absolutely ignore any aggression and don't give any reaction to the bird.
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Are these the only birds you are looking into?

You didn't say anything about noise, but if you are looking for a smart cuddly trainable bird I highly recommend a conure. They can be noisy at times(but most birds are) but they are highly affectionate if hand raised and socialized properly.

I don't have a Senegal or a TAG but I wish you the best of luck in your search!!
i live in an apt so noise has to be low and thats why conures are not possible.
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Maybe consider a Caique? They are playful, fun, smart, super energetic and they like to be on their backs and hop around and such, lol. They are awsome.



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Oh definitely a caique

Most green cheek conures are quiet, probably more quiet than a grey.


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Senegals and greys are definitely going to be louder than any of the pyhurra conures. The problem is with every single bird is the fact that they are all individuals and each one can be so different

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You will only come to understand and know a senegal when you own one yourself. Before I had my senegal I never really liked sennies, but now that I have one myself I come to know that these sennies are awesome birds. I have no regret in adopting a senegal. My green cheeks and maroon bellied conure really do my head in sometimes, but Duke my senegal has never annoyed me. It is true though about each individual and each senegal can be so different so I wish you luck in picking the right senegal .


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Senegals and greys are definitely going to be louder than any of the pyhurra conures. The problem is with every single bird is the fact that they are all individuals and each one can be so different

From what i seen and heard, Senegals are quieter then conures. have not met to many greys in person but greys are also quieter from what i know.
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i don't have a TAG but i have a CAG dusty just turned a year in may. he does get loud now and then usually when he plays with his toys he will yell at them when he does i cover his cage and he gets quiet then when he is quiet i uncover his cage as for cuddling i will share a pic with you on that all birds no matter what they are are different so keep that in mind


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I have two green cheeks (well one is a hybrid) and although they make noise, it's nothing on a sun conure or anything like that. The two main families, pyhurra and arantinga, have very different birds in. The pyhurra family have the 'quiet' conures in it whereas the ara family can be extremely loud, it has things like sunnies, jendays, cherry heads etc.

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I know there are those here with very quiet green cheeks, but don't assume all greenies are quiet; I am telling you the truth here, my green cheeks and maroon belly are extemely loud for their small size. My senegal can make noises all day long and can be quite loud, but never any louder than the conures, and senegals do some nice wolf whistles and melody sounds, whilst the conures just scream out irritating noises bad enough to cause me to bang my head against the wall.

There had been a discussion on another forum about whether male senegals become aggressive when they grow up; someone else there had pointed out that male senegals may become more wilful when they're older rather than aggressive- I totally agree with this; now that my sennie is older, when he doesn't want to go back in his cage he will hold on to my finger with his claws and be defiant that way, but he never bite, never aggressive.

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Tippa. I laughed so hard at your comment. It sums up a green cheek perfectly. Ahha


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This thread has videos of my senegal if you're interested in having a look https://www.talkparrots.com/showthread.php?t=5666

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This thread has videos of my senegal if you're interested in having a look https://www.talkparrots.com/showthread.php?t=5666
He is so cute and his cuddlieness is one reason I love a Senegal. How old is he?
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He is so cute and his cuddlieness is one reason I love a Senegal. How old is he?
Yep, senegals are ace! Duke is 16 months old, he is wilful but never aggressive.

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One of my friends has a Sennie and she loves her. She seems to have quite the personality too!

Here's some pics that show Paris' personality:
http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=32051
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One of my friends has a Sennie and she loves her. She seems to have quite the personality too!

Here's some pics that show Paris' personality:
http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=32051
http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=32240

How adorable. This is exactly why I like senegals. I doubt you would be able to do this with greys and even if you can,the chance of it would not be as high as the Senegal. How intelligent are they? Do the remember things well? My budgies memory is horrible. It would be good if they like to spend time with you and that they remember things better. Yours definitely look like he enjoys being with you.
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I know there are those here with very quiet green cheeks, but don't assume all greenies are quiet; I am telling you the truth here, my green cheeks and maroon belly are extemely loud for their small size. My senegal can make noises all day long and can be quite loud, but never any louder than the conures, and senegals do some nice wolf whistles and melody sounds, whilst the conures just scream out irritating noises bad enough to cause me to bang my head against the wall.

There had been a discussion on another forum about whether male senegals become aggressive when they grow up; someone else there had pointed out that male senegals may become more wilful when they're older rather than aggressive- I totally agree with this; now that my sennie is older, when he doesn't want to go back in his cage he will hold on to my finger with his claws and be defiant that way, but he never bite, never aggressive.
What do you mean willful? Can you elaborate? Do you mean that they form more of an opinion about things? So if they don't want to sleep they will fight to not sleep? If that is the case then how do you deal with it?
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Senegals are really smart, you must have seen Kili the senegal before on youtube doing all those tricks right?

Now that my senegal is a little older he likes to take charge of the situation if he could- such as if he doesn't want to go back to his cage when I put him back he will try to lock his one claw on my finger, but these guys are so mellow I usually just pick him up and place him on his perch. Another way of him trying to tell me he doesn't want to do something I make him do is he would nibble on my finger, but never bite. I got the word wilful for senegals from a lady on another forum and I think she means when the senegals grow up he may try to boss you about to do things his way, not boss you about in a aggressive way though. All this bossing business doesn't mean he will not learn to do tricks, with treat reward for a senegal he will do most things if you know how to train a parrot .


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