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First off I miss everyone I started a new job so I been so held up in that I have barely any time to do anything, as time has been limited so has my training with Phoenix.

My problem is screaming now I know he is not the worst he'll EVENTUALLY be quiet but that's after like 10 mins of screaming now I've tried working on this to no avail, I'm at the point of wanting to bring in a parrot trainer/specialist so can have my sanity back, unfortunately I cannot afford that and I'd like to doit myself.

Anyone have any success he gets loud when anyone leaves the room, if your out of sight but he can hear you (he goes crazy in this situation), when you walk in the door. I tried the ignoring way he actually gets louder and louder he screams for attention he believes he should be out of his cage every single min of everyday (my fault I spoiled him and wud have him out everyday now I will only take him out when I get home at a specific time) I tried waiting and praising his silence (I think he is very confused n thinks I'm praising his screams).

Please god help me I love him other then his screaming hes the best but my family is getting frustrated n frankly so am I, any help would be GrEATLY appreciated. Thanks n sorry for the long long post.

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Rocky responds to both being ignored and being told to be quiet, it took him a while to get to this stage and he will still scream if I have been at work all day and I come back and don't give him the attention he wants if I am busy.


Firstly for ignoring him I simply turn my back on him and ignore him for 5 seconds, if he persists I leave the room and shut the door and don't allow anyone to give him attention till he is quiet for a decent amount of time.
Then what I did with Rocky was teach him to shout when I ask, so if I get really excited and say "can you shout?" he will start screaming, I also then taught him after to "shhh quietly" in a very calm quiet voice and he will normally calm back down and continue with his more sociable noises lol.

I do however allocate time for us to scream at each other everyday, we have a good 10/15 minutes some days for him to just really scream it all out, I read it in a Parrot mag or something ages ago and it has really calmed him down as he can have his time everyday to be noisy whilst still getting the attention he wants, then as he has it out his system he gets his the rest of his attention whilst being calm.

It might work for you it might not, it's hard to really describe how I did it to be honest as I went off what Rocky was giving me at the time, some days it went well others it didn't.
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OMG! my quaker does the same thing! One time he was on my shoulder and he screamed. my ear was ringing!
Honestly, i ignore it and he hushes. However sometimes he wont stop. Usually, they scream if they are bored or they are mad. When he wont stop, i cover him and when he is done for 3 min, i give him a sunflower seed. Works for me! Good luck
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Thanks guys, keep the advice coming makes me feel sane that others have/r going thru this too lol I'm trying to get him to make any other sound today he was quiet btwn screams n the quietness got a lil bit longer each time now I think hes a bit more patient let's see what happens tomorrow when hes full of energy. Im home the next few days so I will be training him on and off everyday ima bring out the treats tomorrow and I'm praying this all works out cuz he's so amazing but this screaming has got to stop I don't think I can handle it for the rest of my life

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Try covering him and when he's quiet for 5 mins remove cover and tell him what a good boy he is.

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Sad to say but that's a Quaker for you and surely you expected some noise from him when you got him! You've had some great advice and I'm sure you can work through it! Is he hormonal? How old is he?

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Alright I'll try covering today. I'm not sure if he's hormonal he's turning two this November, he gets 12-13 hours of sleep depending on when he wakes up. I think he went thru his hormonal phase already tho cuz when he was 1year n a few months he started getting dirty with one of his toys daily no matter who was watching he did this for pretty much the rest of the year, slowly but surely he was cooling down now I haven't seen him "in action" for a few months.

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The sounds in my house is like I live in a bird park, every single one of the birds scream. What I did was I train myself to just live with it, it's more bearable that way .

Parrots are more quiet in the winter so you may have a brief moment to tranquil .

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Lol to a point I am just accepting it some days are better then others but I really want to work on it so I can walk out of the room without him screaming murder till I get back so which of ur birds is the loudest screamer lol

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My quaker is no louder than the senegal or the conures- they're all about the same noise level. My quaker screams when ever I left him alone too long or if he smelt my cooking- he loves to try all my food .

My senegal can be make noise all day long, but some of his sounds are quite pleasant so I don't mind it all that much.

My conures' calls are as irritating as the quaker. I know how uncomfortable you must be with the quaker's screaming because they do have horrible screaming vocals.

I look at it as you have done good and look after your quaker correctly- this is why he wanted you attention. You are truly a quaker mum

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thanks so much that is the biggest compliment anyone could give me well I have fabulous news so all day since he woke up I been in training mode and he is starting to get that if he whistles I'll respond he does still try to scream BUT after a few mins he'll try the whistle and I'll come running he's even whistling before I leave so that I don't leave this is a good step and he sure loves his sunflower seeds lol

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it sounds like your making good progress! Kiwi my quaker, loves sunflwer seeds. if he sees them he will go long lengths to get them. Foraging cups and toys are a great way to make a bird happy. put a few sunflower seeds in one and once they are gone he will try to look for more, they are so comical!!!!
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I'm so surprised how quickly hes pickin it up (faster cuz I got sunflower seeds n I agree he will go to great lengths to earn one) I knew he was smart but this proves how smart he really is . now that he understands it it's up to me n my family to keep it up. I went out for a few minutes to run some errands and I came back his first resort is to scream but I ignore then he does the whistle n when I respond he will continue to whistle it's the cutest thing I really like this n I'm still shocked lol

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congrats!
I wish Bob would suss this out!

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Keep on trying honestly it's all in the treats lol I mean I have been at it literally all day n I feel exhausted but when I leave the room he first resorts to screaming (understandable that's what he's been doing his whole life) but then after a few tries n me not responding he whistles and I'm just like thank godddd I hope he gets over the screaming completely n I'm sure he will over time.

Is Bob a screamer? If so what have u tried so far?

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Covering him, ignoring him, whistling to him, rewarding him!
only covering him works and only after 20 minutes!
he goes peep peep peep! really loudly until he comes out.
Hubby gets annoyed with him but doesn't speak to him,
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Is he screaming for attention? Cuz I think the reason may effect the technique used cuz Phoenix does it for attention he thinks I shud play with him alll day long (my fault I did that when I first got him) so ignoring him ticks him off so he'll get louder cuz he figures I'll either snap n tell him to be quiet or that I did not hear him lol (impossible NOT to hear him) u have any ideas why n when does he scream?

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He screams to come out. Be fed or go to.bed.
It's normally in the evening.
I seem to have hijacked your thread.
We're currently both leaving the room when he does it.
It seems to work!

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Lol no worries this thread was posted so I can get everyone's experiences, solutions and their perspective on how they handle these behaviors. Anyways if you are both leaving the room and he goes quiet that's good does he make any "good/acceptable/preferable" noises after he's done screaming it could be a specific word or sound Phoenix would whistle n when I mimicked the whistle he'd continue doing the whistle.

I learnt that when he screamed he'd go on and on n he'd break in between but praising his silence was not working because I'd respond when he was silent n he'd start screaming. Anyways try lettin him scream it out n if he makes any noise after he's done screaming mimic that noise back n bring out the treats I found that when he first did the whistle it was easier to teach him that when he whistled it was good so I'd whistle then he would n I'd praise him n give sunflower seed then repeat until he knows that whistling is good.

Then move it to leaving the room wait till he screams his heart out and when he does that noise or whistle or whatever it is go in and give him treat n make that noise so he can connect o ya that whistle she likes so I get a treat n repeat until u n bob r pooped out n practise every time u leave the room.

Sorry for the long response I hope this helps a bit.

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solo used to scream for attention but once i got marley and they became best friends he stopped. i haven't heard him do anything but talk in months. and i really do not mind that they are besties because they both still love being with me it just took the pressure off me to always entertain them and i don't feel bad when i am at school or giving dobby loves

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