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i just saw on a site about ringnecks that says pet IRN's should always be clipped and never allowed to fly and it made me really sad and kind of mad because that is not true and someone will read it and believe it.
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I think whether a parrot of any species is clipped or flighted depends on the owner, the bird and the situation... Not all birds should be clipped and not all should be flighted, but the decision should be based on the need .
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i agree, thank you for your opinion

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That's awful they can make absolutely fantastic pets. Not all do but it's no excuse to do that!

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As usual awful advice is to be found everywhere.
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That's stupid, every bird should have the right to fly no matter what his species. Of course the matter of deciding whether to clip or not to clip is entirely the owner's decision, but none of our birds have ever been clipped. The only drawback in my opinion is that they can escape easily with flight but if you close all doors and windows when they are out then you will ensure that this never does happen.
Here are a few lies about wing clipping: is safer for your parrot to be clipped. A flighted parrot will fly into doors and windows and could "fall" into pots and pans or the toilet. This isn't true. None of our parrots have ever flown into doors or windows. And it is less likely to fall into a pot or pan, because it will have better chance of escape. Flighted parrots don't "fall" - they fly. And they shouldn't be in the kitchen when you are cooking anyway. If they are in the bathroom you should leave the lid down on the toilet.
2. I want to clip my parrot so I can take it outside without a harness. A clipped parrot can just as easily escape as an unclipped parrot. You should NEVER let out any parrot, flighted or clipped, without a harness unless you are professionally educated about the risks involved with free-flying parrots, and even then it should be in a secure area where there is no chance of it flying away where it could never return. An clipped parrot may have more difficulty in flying, but they are not completely flightless. With enough wind it will be able to gain enough flight so it can get away - and if it does, it will be even more vulnerable to predators, such as cats, hawks and other dangers. If you have a clipped parrot and you want to take it outside, you should still put it on a harness or in a carrier or carry cage. I recommend the Aviator flight harness for a safe escape-free harness. This is the safest brand to use.
3. It is easier to train a clipped parrot.This is because you are forcing it. The parrot is more likely to bite if it can't get away. And ask yourself this: Do you want a trained parrot that was forced, or a trained parrot that is trained because it likes you? It is so much more rewarding to own a tame parrot that is tame and comes to you on its OWN terms. There's nothing quite like it.
And besides, a clipped parrot is often much more demanding than a flighted parrot. It will rely on YOU to put it back into its cage for food or toys or to go to the toilet. It will rely on YOU to take it where it wants to go.
I am not completely against owners clipping their parrots wings, it's up to them and I have no problem with it, I just personally wouldn't do it. It's just my opinion. It's true, the actual clipping process doesn't hurt the parrot, unless you cut a blood feather accidentally, in which case it will be very painful for the bird and it could likely die due to stress and/or the blood supply being cut off by the loss of the feather, however, if you take care of this situation, either you or an avian vet, then the bird may survive and the feather will grow back and it will go on living a happy healthy life as usual.
But it is what harms them mentally. Parrots need exercise daily, and for a flighted parrot exercise = flying. In essence, flying is important to the health of the parrot, both mentally and physically. A clipped parrot will exercise by vigorous flapping of the wings. A parrot that is clipped is more prone to obesity and fatty liver disease, because they can not burn as many calories or energy as a flighted parrot. A clipped parrot may also get bored and this could even lead to self-destruction, particularly if it is in the cage all day and it can't exercise. If you have a clipped parrot, be sure to let it out for about 3 hours minimum daily, with plenty of games, play and metal stimulation. An unclipped parrot should be allowed out for an hour or more, depending on how much time you have, the species, and the individual bird. If you are willing to spend more time on your bird and allow it more out-of-cage time to compensate for its lack of flight, and still keep it as safe, indoors and outdoors, as a parrot that can fly, then you might make the right decision to clip the bird.
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