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I decided!!! No more waiting! I am getting a Handfed sennie!

YES!! I seriously think that i can make it work. I am a firm believer that when you want something enough, you will find a way to make it work. My life is as stable as it can possibly be. I have a good job, my college is over, and i work from home. I have been told that my place is too small to have both a budgie and a senegal. I do agree that it might be but i will make sure to have separate cage times and closely supervise both birds at all times when either is out so they don't make the mistake of flying to the others cage.

My house description: It is a duplex so the first floor ceiling is 2 floors high. First floor there is a bedroom (unusable since its my roommates), living room , kitchen, spiral stair case which goes up to the 2nd floor where there is a hall that connects to 2 more bedrooms (i have the master bedroom which is roughly 22x13. I have very high ceilings which might be good for my sennie to fly eventually when he is able to (only after i teach him how to recall). You can look down from my 2nd floor to the first floor as well so i can do some funky recall practices from first floor (anywhere to the 2nd floor hallway or even my room. Like i said i think for a rescue bird it might be a bit small since he is used to flying all the time but for a hand fed baby, i think i can slowly get him used to the apt and everything. The kitchen, hallway, living room and obviously my room should be fair game for him to roam ONLY with supervision since i wouldn't trust my bird with anyone alone.

The way i plan to set up my room is that i will keep the 2 cages in opposite ends, also i will have my tree on 1 side of my computer and another play stand in the right side. So perhaps i can try to see if they can coexist next to me without fighting. I will keep them in their own play stands and will make sure they dont attack each other. my hand will be strategically place in the middle so they cant fly at each other. Also my budgie RARELY wants to come out. Only like 2x a day he will want to come out for awhile and chill out. He is more independent but will come out for some play time but only for maybe 30 min to an hour a day. So the sennie will probably have more out of cage time and especially at different times so only sometimes they both might be out at once but again this is only see as it goes since if i see any aggression or signs of them not working out together, then i wont let them out again.

Ok now to why i am doing this now. Honestly i have been trying to find the "right time" to do this for awhile. i wanted to get it pre college but i thought thats not a good idea since college might complicate things. Then i wanted to do it post college but i was at a high at that point with my new career that i was trying to make it at and decided that was a wrong time since i was focusing on other things. Then basically right now is where i am at where i think i am ready. but in all honesty, when can you be ready? When your pre 18, you will be told that college will be an issue (this is the only one i firmly agree with since life changes alot during college). Then you graduate and are told that your career will be an issue. Then you find a career but are told that your marriage/ next phase of your life will be an issue so should wait longer. Then you get married and are probably told that thats not a good time since your starting your new family and have to support everyone and have kids. Then your around 40 years old and even then might not be a good time since by that age your working hard and might not have the time to give 1on1 time much to your bird and your responsibilities as a father/mother might be important. Then you turn 50+ and might think thats the right time but then you might not have the energy to take care of a bird and do everything right....


So when is the right time? Even if i get a bigger place then the one i am living in, i am sure there will be other issues that will prevent me from deciding on my 2nd bird. And it is just going to be my 2nd and most likely final bird. How many others on this site or in real life has a worse situation in their life with more birds who are making it work? I honestly think i can make it work and will make it work.

So therefore i honestly am done waiting. I know enough about training/ clicker training/ behavior training through reading/ working with my budgie/ talking to amazing people (such as ginger and michael) who have helped me understand things better. I was trying to get a rescue but that did not work out since the bird is used to having a much bigger place to fly in and honestly, i wouldnt want him to be unhappy. And there arent really any other rescues who i would trust then the one i was talking to (someone from the forum who was the most helpful awesome person ever!) Also the closest rescue to begin with is many hours away so its not even going to be possible to just go by to look. But right now i think getting a baby will be better so i can just start shaping him to get used to life with me and my budgie.

Also on the bird to get, truth is i will stick with a senegal just because i think they fit me the best and i feel like i know them the best. But however who knows.. maybe when i am going to choose my sennie, i might fall in love with a different bird there.

So ya. question i have from you guys is that do you think this can work or not. I have heard of every negative i can possibly hear and i have taken everything in and i fully understand every risk that i might go looking at. So tell me if you think this will work out or if there is anything i am not looking at.Also keep in mind that eventually i do plan to move to my own place just that at the time being i dont know when it will be. The house i was buying to move in to is no good anymore since i decided to turn it into a investment house instead and flip it in a year or so instead.

As for me, i am a 28 year old guy living with 2 roommates (1 loves my birds and plays with him the other had been around birds at his home all his life but not really a bird person however he is ok with it). I think my maturity is at a higher level then it was when i was in college. Also my job acquires me to be very very patient so patience is definitely one of my strongest points (i trade options/equities).
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Yes I think it should work if you get this handfed baby sennie. With just 2 birds you should have plenty of time each day to handle your senegal to ensure he/she doesn't become wild. What I did with my senegal since he was a baby is I pick him 1 or 2 times daily, flip him on his back which he doesn't mind, get him used to being handle. If you treat and handle the senegal well he will never hurt you even when he is older; it's only when sennies being neglected, being left in their cage, cage bound that they become wild and cause problems.

Remember don't get hooked on Multi-Bird-Syndrome like I have because it can be rough- I wish at time I only have 2 birds because having 7 birds can be hard work; they're dusty, messy and require a lot of you time. You sound like someone who is wise so I suspect you'd know this already. Good luck with what ever decision you make.

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I agree I have one n he is a handful he will be my one and only pet I may adopt an older dog when I get my own place but def no more birds.

Anyways CONGRATULATIONS! Either bird you get will be amazing and I'm sure the space is more then enough for them and the open concept of 2nd floor to first floor will be very fun when he becomes a pro flyer

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I think you have done your research, and if YOU feel it is the right time, I say go for it. I do not agree with Michael on the other site. This is YOUR decision. When looking for a bird, find one that picks you. There is nothing better than having a bird that wants to be with you as much as you want to be with them. Good luck, you are in for a great ride.



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I think you have done your research, and if YOU feel it is the right time, I say go for it. I do not agree with Michael on the other site. This is YOUR decision. When looking for a bird, find one that picks you. There is nothing better than having a bird that wants to be with you as much as you want to be with them. Good luck, you are in for a great ride.

thanks. Ya it is disheartening when he keeps saying to "forget about it" but i do understand his points.

Also i am planning to let the bird choose me but this has always confused me and maybe you can clear things up. When selecting my baby sennie, should i select him when he is being weened and very young or wait till he is weened and in bird store already then select? Also what are some signs that the bird wants me to pick him and wants to be with me? I assume all birds when new will want to slowly go away from your hand when you go near them. The closest /breeder/bird store is about 1.5-2 hours away but i wouldn't mind driving there ever week during weening stage if thats the best time to select. Otherwise i would probably go there when they are weened and then select one in the bird store. But what are some good ways to select the sennie. Like visual ways to see that he is picking me and is showing more interest? I have gone to bird stores but i never went there with the mindset of buying but more so to just research.
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I got Maxx from a bird store. He was locally bred and raised. I had the choice of 4 Yellow Sided Green Cheeks, and 3 Normal Green Cheeks. I held each of them, but when I picked up Maxx, he did not want to go back to his cage. I walked around the store with him for close to an hour. He would go from my finger to my shoulder, back and forth. That was all it took, he came home with me that afternoon.

Till this day, he has never failed to step-up when I put my finger in front of him. He is not a nippy bird at all. Not to say that I have not been bitten by him, but I know his signs, and avoid him when he gets in the mood. 10 minutes later he is back to his self and eager to be with me. I got Maxx at 11 weeks and he was a hand fed DNA tested male when I got him. Would I choose a breeder? The closest one that I know of is a good hour away. For me the Bird Sore worked out. I get free nail and wing clippings, well, not me, but Maxx does. and they always have an excellent selection of toys, treats, and food.




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A baby senegal is not like a green cheek baby. A green cheek even at young a young age will latch on to humans but a young senegal will take a few weeks for him/her to recognise you and bond with you so you will not going to know right from the start whether he/she will pick you. When I went to choose my senegal there were 3 to choose from, I stuck my finger in ther beak to see who's the biter- I avoided the biter and the one that clung to the side of the cage, and I chose the biggest one out of the 3.

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Also flip him on his back like my Duke to see if he mind it, if he doesn't then you know you're going to have a very cuddly senegal. pic below

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Also flip him on his back like my Duke to see if he mind it, if he doesn't then you know you're going to have a very cuddly senegal. pic below

he is beautiful!. will i be able to flip them in the store or breeder that fast and in that early of an age before buying him?
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You flip him over from as young as possible then as he grows older he is used to being flipped and will love lying on his back. My senegal loves nothing more than lying on his back in my hand and I scritch his head at the same time. If you want a cuddly sennie then train him from when he is as young as possible.

Yes you should be able to flip them over at the store or breeder when they're very young, when they're young that is the easiest time to flip them .


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I'm so glad you've made your decision. I've been having birds since I was 6 with the help from my family but as I got older they were all mine. I've gone through 3 schools, college and now I work at home, while caring for 50+ birds and flying to birds of prey daily you will be fine! I'm sure your Senegal will love you!

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Looks like i have to wait longer. i called couple of the closest (all about 2 hours away) bird stores and breeders and none have senegals or jardines to check out. So will have to wait till they get the batch later next year... a well.

interesting that 1 of the place i called to ask some questions, the guy said he thinks that "meyers and jardines" are more troublesome when they get older. Apparently they got a bigger chance for a 1 person bird after they mature and are less of family birds then sennies. Man that kinda makes me think they are just trying to sell birds and are lying to get me to buy what they want me to buy. I ACTUALLY loved that bird store last time i went there since the guy i was speaking to was very informative and friendly and everything he said was accurate from what i know.

but anyway.. looks like i gotta wait longer.
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http://birdbreeders.com/

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I love my senegal but if I could do it again and get to choose between a senegal and a jardine I would have gone for the jardine, they're nice size and good talker

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Remember Nir, It is all about the individual bird. YOUR bird. I posted to you on the other site. The time is NOW!

And, really? Lays in your hand, cuddly, not important. YOUR bird will be unique and you will find that is what you wanted.

GO NIR, GO NIR, GO NIR Go get your bird!
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Now Nir, a senegal is what you want Being able to hold your bird and get it to lie in on your hand is very important because if there is a problem you can just pick it up and check for injuries without the bird being frightened to death Now go and get your bird- the senegal!

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I love my senegal but if I could do it again and get to choose between a senegal and a jardine I would have gone for the jardine, they're nice size and good talker
Damn really?
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Remember Nir, It is all about the individual bird. YOUR bird. I posted to you on the other site. The time is NOW!

And, really? Lays in your hand, cuddly, not important. YOUR bird will be unique and you will find that is what you wanted.

GO NIR, GO NIR, GO NIR Go get your bird!
Of course. I won't be disappointed if he is not as cuddly as I wanted. Sigh now only if I was able to find a breeder or bird store near me that has them. I am on the waiting list of 3 places that I think are good breeders ,bird stores and they will get them next year.
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I am going to be visiting birds by joe this week. they seem like an ethical bird store/breeder.

"Our baby birds are abundance weaned, allowed to fully fledge, and are well-socialized with other birds and humans."

Birds By Joe - African Greys, Amazons, Cockatoos, Macaws, Parrots

also anyone ever been to these bird stores and have any opinion on them?

http://www.birdsbyjoe.com/index.htm

http://www.parrotco.com/

http://www.worldofbirds.com/
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That Birds By Joe has 3 sennie babies! I wouldn't have a clue as I don't live in the states haha but yeah go visit those three bubs

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