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LOOOONG Update

some may have noticed my absence here, the reasoning is not going to be given out here as it is in the past.


however, i would like to update about my birds


i will start with munch....


not the best updates for her. she is classified now as a self mutilator.

She started chewing the skin on her feet. shes always done it since a baby, but it seems she was doing it as a comfort behaviour. from whatever she went through at the home we got her from, she has always just slowly nibbled her feet, like she was in a trance. she would fall asleep doing this and it wasnt apparent that she was doing damage. until a few weeks ago. she chewed the skin right off her leg.

we removed all but 2 rope perches from her cage and gave her all natural branches. she has been chewing on those and has seemed to be a much more happier bird with them. also, we created her "preening station" where she has a willow perch she can strip bark off of and she has a bunch of toys she preens and chews and she has used it very well, especially her feather toy, which is her new pacifier, she no longer chews her feet and instead she chews her feather toy in the exact way that she used to chew her feet. we have given her more toys to chase around and we replace perches almost on a weekly to bi weekly basis as she needs them. we have to keep on top of that to make sure she has something to do from the time she wakes up til the time she goes to bed. she NEEDS constant stimulation. for christmas we bought her a buffet ball foraging ball foot toy (for large parrots, its about the size of her) so we cant wait to give it to her for christmas! she forages well, but she figures out the toys and then takes them apart. she has the intelligence of an african grey and unfortunately she needs the same mental stimulation as they do. this is an ongoing thing now, that she needs to chew, think, and needs something always to do now to keep up with her ceaseless energy and her high intelligence.

you can see her odd trance here, its like it is a comfort thing. her mutilation has been identified as a mixture of obsessive compulsive and lack of adequate mental stimulation.

Munch's Trance - YouTube

you can see her high energy in this video

I Am Concerned For My Eyes - YouTube

you can see the damage done from the mutilation here:




she is all healed now though and has not touched her feet in over a month since we changed her cage set up with natural branches for her to constantly chew up and gave her the preening station.

she sleeps under her cuddle thing now too which is hilarious as she sleeps with her head tucked up in the pocket lol it is one of those microfiber mop heads, brand new, cut in half)





this is her preening station




you can see her new set up here. cage is long for lots of floor space for her to run around, doors latch shut, feeder doors have good blocks on them, and cage is very secure. we had put the old cages back together again for munch and moved mango into the tiels old cage and moved the tiels into the top of one of our ferret nation cages.





BUT the new problem, is the shredding. all those natural branches are causing her to shred them all and make nests. shes already showing some signs of egg laying, but i expect it to be like last year. last year nothing worked to stop making nests and she was making herself sick with the stress trying to make them. so we gave her a nest and she laid one egg, gave up on it within a day and that was the end of the hormones until now. we expected it to be a yearly event with her, so i am not surprised. might just be the timing rather than the natural perches though because it was around this time last year that she started with the hormones. might just be her season




Tsuka was clipped and once those new feathers started growing in we clipped them again... but then the others kept breaking... so it was clear that feather wasnt going to grow in safely, and he would always break wing feathers.... so we decided to have him imped to protect the new feathers. imping is a process normally done with birds of prey. basically a feather extension... well he got both wings done, using some of his better old molted feathers and some of dally's molted feathers. he can fly now, but it means we have to cope with him diving at us on his bad moody days.

he is suspected strongly of having bipolar disorder based on his mood swings that do not change no matter what training or anything is used. hormone reductions dont work, positive reinforcement... nothing. he is just moody to the extreme and there isnt much we can do about it.

he got too obese while clipped and when he would try to fly he would fall and land on his tail and broke several feathers (most all grown back now) but he has follicle damage from that and now one feather grows back deformed each time.

you can see his imping here, 3 feathers on one side are imped and 4 on the other, the spotted feathers are imped feathers. the older faded brown ones are the imped feathers where his primaries are if that helps



he can fly now too






Dally is all good, picky about foods from time to time, but i am happy to report little problems from her aside from getting sick for a bit, but with antibiotics she has gotten better and is doing good!


Mango... oh little Mango. he is still super cute and still with his "girlfriend" Blueberry, the ball! he still wont give her up. he gave Munch the boot over the ball! he attacks her if she gets too close. they dont share a cage, and i have to watch out of cage time well with them.



Mango and Munch are not as close as they used to be. Munch is tame and bonded to my husband and i now and only cuddles with Mango sometimes out of the cage. But then Munch attacks him if she wants a perch or toy he is using... Mango is flighted, but Munch will remain clipped. So they have grown independent more from eachother, which is ok, Munch likes people and loves to interact with us, and Mango is not a people bird but he has his ball and he could care less about anyone else LOL but he is still just so adorable!



They have their own facebook page, which doubles kinda as a photo gallery/blog that anyone can check out if they like

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And some photos of the flock (most are on the FB page, so bear with me if youve seen them)









Munch rubs her face on her calcium perch, so she wears pink blush now, she puts it on every time she has a bath too.... so its not going away no more LOL she keeps putting it back on... well all power to her if she wants to look pretty!





and see, shes TAME!!!






Munch Scritches!!! - YouTube

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great photos

im curious about imping.. how did you "apply" them.. bahaa i dont know the word


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Some vets do it but most will not do it. it is generally a somewhat expensive procedure and not commonly done in pet parrots, especially the little ones



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Welcome back Casey, I have alway enjoyed your posts. You are very knowledgeable, and a great asset to this site.

BTW, great pics of your beautiful flock



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Very good glad everything is better with munch and her foot and your picture of them are so cute

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Brilliant photos and thank you for the update. Imping is something commonly dealt with when it comes to birds of prey for sure but usually with the tail feathers. There is a thin hollow needle which is inserted into the skin with a new feather in it Poor Munch and her little feet. That photo from inside the microfibre mop made me laugh so much! I also just noticed you said 'husband'!!! You weren't married before hope it all went lovely!

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Welcome back!! Awesome shots as always!
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yes we got married back in July all is good! not much has changed relationship wise, just a title change

well tsuka's imping did not involve hollow needles it involved trimming the old clipped feathers to a tapered tip and then taking a molted feather and sliding the tapered clipped feather inside the hollowed molted feather quill. tiny dab of glue on the tapered tip to secure the feather... think its because the hawk feathers are heavier and take more damage than a cockatiel. the clipped feather supports the imped feather.


it was a success for tsuka, considering cockatiels normally are considered too small.

it doesnt seem like a hard procedure, just complicated, they definitely need to understand feathers very very well to get the right alignment and position and the correct corresponding feather...



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Munch is so cute the way she sleeps.
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welcome back love the pics

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It's nice to see you back!
I love the pics espcially the tiels outside.
just beautiful.

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