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DNA Sexing Kit

Although my parents act as if it is no big deal whether I know the sex of my Sun or not, I really badly need to know. I am not deciding on a name until I know. The Bird Farm, where we got my Sun Conure from, does sexing for $30. That would be my first choice; taking my Sun there and having them do it. They offer certificates and results within ten days. I trust them, too. However, I've already asked my parents and they say no. To find out my Sun's sex I'm relying on my parents. I've completely blown all my money on the Sun Conure, I have no money left. I would wait a month to get more from allowance and chores, however, I must buy my boyfriend a late Christmas and birthday gift. It's horrible I haven't gotten them sooner! So I can't buy anything else until I do that for sure. (We've been dating for almost fourteen months now) And what he wants costs a lot of money, so it'll be months before I can find out my bird's sex with my own money, and I've already said I'm not naming it until I find out. Is there any cheaper or even free way to find out whether my Sun Conure is a boy or girl? Anything online or any actual place? I'd really appreciate any help I could get on this. Thanks in advance.




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I found this website: https://www.dnanow.com/secure/dnasexing/dna-kit.php
Not too sure about it, what are your thoughts?




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Would you do the blood sexing? It's not that much cheaper than what your breeder would charge, plus you'd have to use a lancet and puncture your bird -- ouch! That might set your bonding back a bit!

Even the feather sexing requires pulling a feather out, not molted feathers - ouch again!

I'm not really concerned whether Libby is a male or female, since I'm not going to breed her, but I don't think I could stick her or pull out one of her feathers.

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You could alway wait until it lays an egg to know if is a male or female and it's free

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Hahaha, that's true. But still, I do really want to find out....I'll try and ask my parents again some other time. Also, some family is coming Saturday for Christmas. Maybe I'll get some cash from them.




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I've heard this old trick where you hold a nail or something similar over the bird on a string (it works for people too XD) and depending on whether it spins or sways determines the sex... I did it on a lovebird and it worked try it just as a testing thing then get a real test done and see if my trick worked! Hehe

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Daisy that method is usually right about 50% of the time. Really not very accurate. Even with blood DNA results can be faulty. The other way is Surgical Sexing. This involves the bird being put under anaesthetic and a little snip under the left wing and a laporascope inserted into the bird to see if there are testes or ovaries, but I don't advise this with a Sun as they often have an adverse reaction to the anaesthetic and would probably be more expensive than the DNA.

The other way you can take blood for the DNA is by clipping a toe nail a little further back than normal, just make sure it's not too far back and you get excessive bleeding. The prick with the lancet is very quick and relatively painless. Also it depends on who is doing the DNA as to how much blood is needed. Some need quite a smear while others only a tiny bit. We tried to do my Sulphur Crested Cockatoos but the skin is so tough we could not get enough blood to test. Yet the Derbyans we had done by a different company only required a tiny amount and the birds did not even yell, it was all over in a second.
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Hahaha, "this method is usually right about 50% of the time." I know you can get it done surgically. I am not doing that. I think really the only option I have is the Bird Farm.




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Abby,
You won't like my suggestion, but here it is.
Go ahead and name the bird something that is either unisex or something that can easily be converted to a name of the opposite sex. Buy your boyfriend his gift when you can. Then, no matter how much time it takes, save up your money and have the Bird Farm do the sexing when you can.
You spent more money on the conure than you ever expected to spend on a bird. I have said that I thought that was great because that is the bird you really wanted. You would have still wanted a conure if you had purchased another bird. This way, you already have what you really want.
Look at it this way, if you can. Instead of having to wait for your conure, all you have to wait for now is to know its sex. You could still be waiting to get the bird.
You had given Minnie a male name because you had been told she was a boy. When she started laying eggs, you changed her name to Minnie. Therefore, you have been through this at least once, and it really was not a horrible thing, was it?
My daughter named her bourkes Stanley because everyone at the store thought it was a male. Now, based on the color and the actions, we all think the bird is a female. We still haven't had her DNA'd. Some day we probably will, unless she lays an egg first and eliminates the need. In the mean time, we sometimes call her a he and sometimes refer to her as a she, and it isn't really a problem at all. Cannary has just decided that if the bird turns out to be a female, it will become Miss Stanley. (She learned this trick from my sister, who renamed her cat from Heather to Mr. Heather when she took the cat to the vet to be spayed and the vet informed her that, instead, he would be neutering HIM.)

At any rate, I thought you were leaning toward the name Meeko? If so, Meeko works for both and your problem is solved.

Additionally, I don't think it will hurt if you don't name the bird yet. Nor will it hurt if you change the name later. Look at how many name changes Minnie has had, and from the looks of your videos she is not emotionally scarred. She looks like a very happy bird.


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Hahaaha, thank you nanay! I am just so picky about naming. I think I'll just wait to have him sexed, and I'll decide on a name now.




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Sorry for sounding like a mother, again, Abby. Sometimes I can't stop it.

When I was in junior high I hated it, and my mom established this rule. When I came home, she would listen to as many complaints as I wanted to spew out, BUT, first, before I could make even one complaint, I had to list three things that were good that happened that day. She was pretty smart. It changed my thinking and made junior high bearable.

The funniest thing is that as a teacher I have taught all grades, from preschool through freshman level college courses, and guess what my absolute favorite level is to teach? You guessed it I'm sure - middle school/junior high.


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I really like the idea of listing three things that are good about each day. That's honestly really cool. I can imagine that would help things.




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It really helped me.
My own sons both LOVED middle school. Sometimes I wonder where those boys got their personalities from. They were certainly improvements over me. lol


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High school and middle school is okay for me. I'd rather be out doing things I want to do, like birds! I always find myself blabbing on about my birds wherever I go, including school. I think people find me a bit strange...




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It's pretty hard to find bird people close. That's why I like to visit the bird store near me. I do find that people who are crazy about their own animals, no matter what kind, understand bird love. I have had great conversations with snake and rat owners. Llama owners also seem to like all companion animals. I have even met a lot of people who are afraid of birds who still like to share "pet" stories. They just have to really enjoy their own pets. The one thing I have a hard time finding, though, is people who understand why I would have so many birds. People understand liking my birds, but not having so many.


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Oh I know that method hardly ever works haha! It never worked again I was just saying in a joke way Kate. It only ever worked with the one bird I did hehe

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Hahaha that might be my only option at this point.




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I really don't think it works but it's always fun just to play with. Also are you going to go with Meeko ?

I find that most people think I'm a little bit crazy Abby, I never shut up about why I love my birds and what they're up to

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I dunno, I also like the name Jack. Mom says I could just change it to Jackie if it's a girl, but I don't like the name Jackie. I like Kiki for a girl too.




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Awesome! We had a Kakariki called Kiki but sadly she passed. It's a lovely name.
If you're really stuck on names I know a great site you can use:
http://www.birdbytes.com/names16.html

just scroll down and there's a ton of them, loads of pages too

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