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Avian Probiotics

Does anyone give them to their birds? If so, what brand do you recommend? I'm thinking about starting mine on one but would like opinions before I decide on a brand and place to buy them. Thanks.
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Probiotics!
Avian will just cost you more than a large number of others available.
Google probiotics yogurts. I can buy a 5lt for the same price my vet wants for a couple of vials.
Can I ask why you are considering using them.
would only go with a probiotic after a bird has been on antibiotics. that is when they can be very handy to quickly bring up the good gut bacteria. Not sure they do much any other time unless there has been a problem with bad diet.


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I only ever use them after antibiotics or during the raising of chicks. Maybe if a bird needs a bit of perking up too! I use Bio-Plus

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Probiotics!
Avian will just cost you more than a large number of others available.
Google probiotics yogurts. I can buy a 5lt for the same price my vet wants for a couple of vials.
I am just wondering, yogurt probiotics contain bacteria found in [I]mammalian[I] intestines. I don't know if it would provide any benefits to avian guts. I remember reading something about that a while ago, but can't remember where so don't recall how reliable the source...it can't hurt, but can it help?

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Lily is on her second round of antibiotics. She is 6 months old and the vet said she probably has had this infection slowly getting worse since she was with the breeder. I want something to help her get out of that cycle so she doesn't keep getting sick.

I also wanr the other birds to have a boost because after Lily's first round of meds I let them all play and eat together.

I don't care what the cost is.
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Lily is on her second round of antibiotics. She is 6 months old and the vet said she probably has had this infection slowly getting worse since she was with the breeder. I want something to help her get out of that cycle so she doesn't keep getting sick.

I also wanr the other birds to have a boost because after Lily's first round of meds I let them all play and eat together.

I don't care what the cost is.
I responded to you in talk parrotlets but you might want to post in talk budgies. They have great advuce for this stuff. Probiotics, cal/v-d, and braggs apple cider vinegar are known to do this from what I have learned. They support immunity alongside a good diet. I give each once a week in water.

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I feed chickory every day.
That's a vegetable probiotic, look here:

https://www.organicfacts.net/health-...f-chicory.html

I also didn't know that, but once I was just curious about the benefits of the veggies my linnie chose to eat.
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The other thing is Goldenfeast blends also have probiotics in it. That might be easier.

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Here is a link to an American site with a few details of Pro biotic Yogurts.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/80/2/245.full

Having used only one once and no testing, during and after, using anti biotics, cannot say. But can confirm testing after the course the bacteria count was zero. And I am fairly confident that using a pro biotic yogurt helped. Where this would of been any better result if I had paid the $48 for a few caps of the special Avian stuff. I do know most of it would of been wasted as Henry only got three drops per day for a few days.
I would not bother using at any other time, as i do not feel there is a need.
I mean I do not take any medication for no reason so why would I do this with my Fids?
Here is a interesting comment made by one of our most respected bird rescue people here in Auckland.
"I firmly believe in diet, as the key to good health. And do not go over the top with medicating. Take a look around, you can see they are all looking good". Who am I to argue with that? In fact I am in full agreement with her.Silvia Durant has been in bird rescue for well over 30yrs and is now 82yrs.
This was Penguin, Kingfisher, Native Pigeon, Blackbirds, Thrushes, and baby ducks, that I saw.


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Well, I agree with diet being key, but Lily came to us very sick and asymptomatic other then smell. She has a good diet now, but she needed a reset. I'm fine with giving my birds foods that boost their immunity so they dont get sick, but she had a high enough bacterial count in her gram stain that the vet was surprised she was still alive. Diet alone isn't always enough. She will continue with the medications and I'm hoping probiotics will help her start over on the right track.

I don't care what the cost is. I want what is best for her.

I really appreciate the information you all gave me. Thanks.
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"Diet alone isn't always enough"

Don't worry I agree with you. I turn to meds when the need arises.
I will post Pacos story. And his fight for life, after heavy metal poisoning.
If this is the case, and I take it she is on antibiotics! As soon as they are finished that is the time to hit her with probiotics. They will not be much good until then.

I would like to say Thank You, For taking her on and the work you are doing to help her.


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