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For those that have given their parrots anti-fungal and antibiotics, for how long did you have to administer it? I was told for 14 days, twice a day. It seems long. Most times I take antibiotics, I only take them for 7-10 days. I just get worried about overusing these things and the effects it could have on their tiny systems. Unfortunately, antibiotics are not as safe as people think. I took Gemma for a wellness exam because she needed one and I wasn't sure if her HUGE droppings and skunky smell were due to her hormones or something bacterial. Well the doctor recommended her being treated for a suspected bacterial infection due to her smell and her droppings-which literally are the size of a quarter or half dollar coin. The fecal only tests for parasites and I won't have the result for a day or two, but that would be a different med if it came back positive. When I mentioned a gram stain (like what Parrotletzoo had done, they didn't really know what I was talking about). He said Oliver doesn't need to be treated unless he shows "clinical" signs. I would love to hear everyone's experiences.

Additionally, any tips on giving it to her and signs to look out for as far as anyone's negative experience (reactions to meds?) would be helpful.

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Miss Chanel has been on antibiotics a couple of times. I believe the duration varied, depending on the antibiotic. She's never had a negative reaction (other than me grabbing her -lol). Since it is flavored, she eagerly accepted the drops.

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4thebirds, is this an Avian vet?
Our doctor examines the feces and intestinal flora for parasites, bacteria and fungus.
I wouldn't applicate antibiotics until a bacterial infection is proven. because they can cause fungal infections.
I would wait for the results before starting medication.
You could give her Avian probiotics and oregano meanwhile.
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4thebirds, is this an Avian vet?
Our doctor examines the feces and intestinal flora for parasites, bacteria and fungus.
I wouldn't applicate antibiotics until a bacterial infection is proven. because they can cause fungal infections.
I would wait for the results before starting medication.
You could give her Avian probiotics and oregano meanwhile.
Yes it was a an avian vet....she is on an antifungal was well.

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Wow, that's hard stuff for such a small girl.
Yuki, Paulchen and I cross all fingers and claws that she tolerates the medicine well for a quick recovery.
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It depends entirely on what is wrong with them regarding how long they'll be having them. The treatment for psittacosis is 6 weeks with testing again 3 months later (antibiotics). The same goes for a fungal infection like aspergillosis. You'll find that when a bird is on antibiotics their immune system comes crashing down (from what I've had experience with anyway) and birds become much more susceptible to bacterial and fungal infections. Darwin (black capped lory) caught psittacosis. 2 weeks into treatment he started showing signs of aspergillosis. Sigh, it's a pain! It was a very long treatment period Did they tell you what it is she needs the antibiotics for?

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It depends entirely on what is wrong with them regarding how long they'll be having them. The treatment for psittacosis is 6 weeks with testing again 3 months later (antibiotics). The same goes for a fungal infection like aspergillosis. You'll find that when a bird is on antibiotics their immune system comes crashing down (from what I've had experience with anyway) and birds become much more susceptible to bacterial and fungal infections. Darwin (black capped lory) caught psittacosis. 2 weeks into treatment he started showing signs of aspergillosis. Sigh, it's a pain! It was a very long treatment period Did they tell you what it is she needs the antibiotics for?
I described her behaviors, smell, and HUGE poops. The vet wasn't convinced it was hormonal which is what I thought. He didn't feel an egg, but he could only feel it if it was low. I think it could still be hormonal and the egg is just in the creation stages. Anyway, he said with the way her poop looked he thought she may have a bacterial infection. I asked about a poop culture or something, but he said there will always be bacteria in poop.

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I honestly say if Gemma was my bird I'd look for another Avian vet next time.

An Avian vet schould be able to distinguish between healthy and bad poop bacterias.
He should make cultures from the bird's crop and cloaca.
He should never prescribe antibiotics until a bacterial infection is proven, because they can be harmful for the bird's body like Daisy explained.
But now you have started you'll have to applicate them as long as recommended so that no resistant bacterial strains appear.

Little Gemma, please recover soon!
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4thebirds, is this an Avian vet?
Our doctor examines the feces and intestinal flora for parasites, bacteria and fungus.
I wouldn't applicate antibiotics until a bacterial infection is proven. because they can cause fungal infections.
I would wait for the results before starting medication.
You could give her Avian probiotics and oregano meanwhile.
Dried oregano over her food?

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I honestly say if Gemma was my bird I'd look for another Avian vet next time.

An Avian vet schould be able to distinguish between healthy and bad poop bacterias.
He should make cultures from the bird's crop and cloaca.
He should never prescribe antibiotics until a bacterial infection is proven, because they can be harmful for the bird's body like Daisy explained.
But now you have started you'll have to applicate them as long as recommended so that no resistant bacterial strains appear.

Little Gemma, please recover soon!
Yeah I think you're right

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Dried oregano over her food?
I think a special preparation for birds is better.
Can you find something like this in an internet shop?

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I won't be going back to that vet unless it is an emergency because they are closest and open 24hrs. You won't believe it. My husband picked up the rest of the meds and they had marked the fill to here dosage line at .6 instead of .06, so if I hadn't read the bottle clearly, I would have given Gemma 10xs more than her dosage. I am furious. I called them back and let them know that they could have killed my 35 gram bird!

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