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hen went to the vet

pickle would not stop laying eggs, 23 eggs later and many attempts to make her stop, i her to the vet. about 4 days before i took her, she did stop laying. she is healthy as are her eggs. the vet said to play with the lighting more and to see if that works and if it doesn't then i can bring her in to get a shot of Lupron. wednesday she did lay an egg. she has not laid one today yet and she does not appear to have an egg bum. they get about 7-8 hours of daylight now and she is still nesty.

the past week i tried keeping her in the normal cage and she has been fine except for the egg. she spends a lot of time in the foraging tray throwing things out and foraging rather than trying to find a nesting spot and being glued to baby bird (her lover in the night). last night i tried what the vet said about keeping her in a night cage. i took one of my smaller cages and put her in there for the night. i put one toy in there (and food and water) because i did keep her in there until i let them out in the morning rather than trying to put her back in the other cage- she probably would have flew off the play. today she is really nesty and played with baby bird a lot. despite the minimal daylight and the sleeping cage, she is still hormonal and all the boys are in breeding condition with their bright blue ceres.

that is why i am a little hesitant to bring her to get the injection. the vet said that with her environment, it might still be enough to still make her hormonal yesterday i also noticed that leon has gotten a brownish spot in the middle of his beak… I'm not sure what that is….

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I'm sorry your having egg madness (as I call it). It does drive you insane. Budgies have a very high sex drive so this does not seem unusual. I'm pretty sure brown on noes means they are hormonal but I am not sure what brown on the brak means. Sorry your going through tough times with your flock.
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hopefully it dies down soon. i thought it also might be because my room is too warm during the day because of my space heater. after i turned it down, they started to relax, but that might have just been because of the time of day. my room gets chilly in the winter and i hate to leave it off.

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Keep sticking to what you're doing. Use the night cage, keep the short daylight hours, reduce the protein in her diet (does she eat pellets?), removing nesting materials (even that foraging basket, it may sound cruel but sometimes some toys can add to the problem more than we could imagine) and feeding her at scheduled times. If birds are fed ad-lib, they're more likely to think oh hey there's a ton of food here what an awesome place to have babies If you only feed her what she will eat and do that throughout the day instead then that could also help Sorry you're having such a hard time with her, it can be very stressful and obviously there's that fear of losing them. I've lost hens in the past. Do you have extra D3 for her diet or even better a bird lamp? If not I highly recommend in investing in one or the other. If you can have the lupron shot it may be worth just trying it along with the suggestions you've already have

About males with brown on their cere. I don't want to alarm you, but from what I have known it tends to be a hormonal balance. This can be an indicator of testicular cancer. I'm not saying it is, but like I said, it can be just a hormonal imbalance. Your best bet is to go have some blood work done if it is concerning you!

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I've found that the best way to stop them laying eggs continually is to provide a nest box let them sit on the a few eggs for a bit. You can always boil the eggs or replace them with dummies. One of tiels is chronic layer too . It worked wonders with her .
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Daisy, about the brown on the beak; can it show up so abrupt like it did? One day it wasn't there and then it was

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I believe so. If you can phone or email your vet then they may be able to suggest something other than that, but I'd say you're looking at hormonal imbalance or testicular cancer. I think it was Parrotletsrock who had a budgie who unfortunately passed away from it? It isn't uncommon in budgies

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I read it was a hormonal thing, but I have seen the question a lot after searching it and there are not a lot of answers. I was thinking of calling the vet just to give an update on pickle, and I was going to ask them about it. I would hate to bring him to the vet in this temp though (and because I don't have oodles of money) :/

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Call him up and see what he suggests for now perhaps? Let us know how things go!

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a few days ago i called the vet.

i have pickle in her own cage and i have been letting her out alone or with cheerio in the morning before i leave for about 40 minutes. when i get home i let the others out and 3 of them are glued to her cage. i hate leaving her in for so long. when i close my shades (at 2:30 pm!!) i put pickle in the other room so the others can settle down before going back at 3. from then on its darkness until the morning. i have 2 windows in my room and i keep one shade closed for the birds, they still start singing at 6:30ish AM…

i told the vet about leons beak spot and she said nothing pops out at her saying that it is a problem. he is still acting normal (also now pickles #1 fan), and so i said i would bring him in if i saw him acting sick. the spot seems to be traveling down his beak to the point, but that might just be me

when i put pickle in the other room, she will first flock call. i try to put on some music (like i am now) and she has started chirping at the bottom of the cage. she will occasionally back her butt into the corner with her tail up while still chirping. i wasn't sure what this means. she did similar a while ago when she would try and sit on the little plastic rubber duck. i really want to let her out with the others -__- she gets stressed sometimes and i don't like to see her panting! my poor cherub

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