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Question ice went for a wing clipping

so i took ice to a local specialty bird store today to get her wings trimmed..

she could easily fly 4-5 times around the room with no dificulty at all

but now.. she just flops to the floor.. i feel bad for her,,

the person that clipped her(i did not) told me smaller birds need to be clipped more than bigger birds because they have a more larger tendancy to fly and get hurt.

so i have some pics of ice's wing clippings now








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the seconday flights are also trimmed as well

Ps: ice is going through a molt right now.. so these some of these feathers will be replaced?? am i right?
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Gosh, I think they trimmed WAY too many feathers! I think only 5-6 of the primaries should be trimmed and none of the secondaries. This way, the bird can glide safely to the ground.

I clip my Parrotlet's feathers, learned how to do it from my Parrotlet book. She gets 5 or 6 clipped on each side, that's it. I take my GCC and my Hahns to my bird shop and they do it the same way.

Poor Ice! The clipped feathers will eventually fall out and be replaced by new feathers. You may want to think about it before you take her back there for wing trimming. You can do a search on line for "how to clip a parrot's wings", something like that, and you should see some pics showing how many get clipped.

Take care with Ice to make sure she doesn't hurt herself until her feathers grow back in -- and thank goodness they DO grow back in!

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OOHHHHH IM NEVER GOING BACK THERE AGAIN


I FEEL SO BAD... she seems ok though.. just kinda surprised when she falls to the floor...
im just nervous because her cage is so high.. and if she tried and flew.. it would be a long drop..luckily we have carpet so the drop is cushoned a bit

i have researched frequently before i took her as i was thinking i would do it myself.. but i decided i would take her to a specialist for a better cut(THAT DIDNT HAPPEN )
I THINK SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF I HAD DONE IT MY SELF

at least she is molting and will grow in some more.. then i will trim them properly myself when they get long again

but im thinking.. ive heard extreme cases that they dont grow back?? im so scared for her


but thank goodness i dont have to worry about her flying into walls..she used to do this once and a while.

but i still feel so guilty


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I can't help you there as all my birds are flighted. Though I've seen worse.

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Extreme cases do not always grow back... but an extreme case is where the follicle has been damaged... your bird just has to many feathers cut so she will be ok... my conure is just relearning how to fly and it is so funny to watch him try to syc himself up to jumping off the cage... then he flaps and stops, flaps and stops so he flys real erratic...lol.. kinda big swoops in slow motion... and gets real tired real fast...poor guy.
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aww poor thing.. LOL

well its good that it will grow back!!


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I've never heard of the feathers not growing back from a wing clipping, maybe others will have an opinion.

Don't feel bad, you did what you thought was best for her -- no one would guess they'd do something like that! Do you think they were in a hurry or something?

It's pretty easy to do yourself, once you get the hang of it. Just read up on line, I'm sure there's pictures too, that show you just how many feathers to cut. I could also do my Hahns and my GCC, but when I take them for grooming, they also take care of their nails and beak, and they only charge $10 per bird. They use a Dremmel grinder, not a clippers, and I like that. I'm not brave enough to do the beak and nails!

If and when you do her wing feathers, just go slowly, one feather at a time, and count them as you go. That way, you won't cut too many.

Anyway, try not to feel bad. Just give her some extra skritches and a few treats!

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ooh she has been getting scritches and millet for hoours now

i dont think he was in a hurry.. he took the time to talk to her and give her a cuddle.

but then after that things just went down from there


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The first time I got Diego's wings trimmed from Bakers - it WAS NOT a good experience
I just noticed that he has a blood feather and am not going there. I'm clipping his by myself (don't worry I've read a lot actually a bit too much ) kinda nervous and if I can't then I'll just take him to a private bird specialist

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ahah you can never reasearch too much

ya know how they have that big mirror there? ice flew into it many times i felt like crying

why did yours not go well?? did they do the same to deigo?


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dont feel to bad i went to get solo cliped the other day at my pet shop and they cliped a blood feather so we had to go to the vet and i cryed

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Oh Jess, that's awful! I'd have cried too!

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ooh poor solo is he OK?

I was really nervous that he was going to catch a blood feather.. as she is going through a molt.

glad he didnt though


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with a clip, secondaries should never be cut. the lady i got the lovebirds from had clipped munch somewhat like that. just an awkward clip... did nothing for munch, luckily, but be sure to have extra padding on your floor for ice. with a short clip, its very easy to damage the keelbone (bruising, or worse, breaking it). so having really soft blankets around where she would fall is a good idea.

as for feathers not growing back, that can happen with a bad clip. usually if they clip and leave a blood feather standing alone.... the bird continuously breaks the blood feather or knocks it out. eventually theres enough follicle damage to that feather that the feather no longer grows back or grow in deformed. i know this as its happened to tsuka... more from nightfrights than poor clipping. a lot of his primaries grow back stunted and he takes forever to grow in flights. he took a year to learn how to fly because of follicle damage. hes had a few feathers not grow in anymore either.

so, until they grow back again, keep soft blankets and pillows around the cage or other areas she hangs out in case she falls. it will lessen the chance of injury



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ok i will go get some blankets right now! thank you very much everyone

you are all so very helpful


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That's too many feathers and they are clipped all awkwardly - it should just be the first 3-5 flight feathers clipped evenly, right up against the coverts. If she lets you open her wings like that, you can just do it at home yourself so you don't have to worry



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solos fine, i freaked out though and i havent been back to the pet shop. i was so mad that they hurt him

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ahah you can never reasearch too much

ya know how they have that big mirror there? ice flew into it many times i felt like crying

why did yours not go well?? did they do the same to deigo?
He was screaming and biting (made her bleed a tiny bit) and swacking like he was in pain when she grabbed him from his cage. My poor baby couldn't fly at all! He couldn't even fly to his perch in the cage by himself so I had to perch him on my palm and help him Poor Ice Give her lots of love (and millet!) from me They don't even clean their scissors, they use the same ones for everything, from opening food to opening a box I wouldn't want diego getting an infection and since I found a blood feather I'm really scared

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ok thank you jenny! ya ice lets me open her wings without any complaint so i will NEVER be going back there again! trust me on that! so should i wait untill they all grow out before i clip just the first 3-4?

ice is doing fine though. i think she relizes she cant fly so she isnt really tempted to do it.. but just as i laid a thick blanket down. she miss judged her "jumping/flittering" limit and luckily landed softly on a blanket thank you Casey!

oh its good that solo is ok. i would have been mad as well.. even more mad than i am right now.

Looks like im going to have to be ice's personal taxi for a while now

Shivani- how long since you got him clipped?? did she cut just the first few?? just make sure he has lots of stretching space and wont bump into things and spook him..

all birds get blood feathers.. its just the few unlucky ones that actually break them.. make sure to always have flour or cornstarch ready

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Don't feel bad, you didn't know. In my opinion it is good to clip the wings, I think you can learn alot from you tube. There are a few videos about wing clipping on there. Some show very good angles and good ways to hold a bird. Make sure you look at a few to make sure you have picked a good one. You won't have to do it for a long time but you will be ready for next time.

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