Anyone have experience with PPD? - Talk Parrots Forums

Parrot Health, Maintenance, and Safety Discuss parrot health, parrot care, parrot safety and maintenance.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-16-2012, 07:01 PM Thread Starter
 
thepennywhistle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 151
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
Exclamation Anyone have experience with PDD?

Hi all. I'm having a panic attack right now because I just heard from my
lovely bird store. Two of their macaws died suddenly this week, and
the necropsy confirms PDD. They have told everyone about it and
are closed until Monday while they disinfect everything. No bird sales
for 30 days. The vet is saying it is a macaw-oriented disease, but they are
not 100% certain that it is not transmissible to other species. I have
found through internet quick checks that they have found it in both greys
and senegals, both of my babies. I have never handled any birds there,
and have bought only bulk food there, except for the three budgies, who
are long past quarantine. Not that it would have done any good anyway --
they say the incubation period is 8 years!

I'm scared for my birds. I would dearly appreciate any more knowledge
or experiences that anyone could share with us?

Thank you.

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly.
And never regret anything that made you smile

Last edited by thepennywhistle; 03-16-2012 at 07:37 PM.
thepennywhistle is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-16-2012, 11:56 PM
 
Jenny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bellingham, WA
Posts: 3,838
Thanks: 194
Thanked 130 Times in 103 Posts
Rep Power: 44
                     
Send a message via AIM to Jenny
PDD is more common, and devastating, in some species over others. The biggest thing, before you panic, is get your flock tested if you think they have been exposed. I think it hits macaws, lovebirds, and tiels/toos hardest?



Jenny is offline  
post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-17-2012, 05:55 AM
 
rowie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Bundoora, VIC. Australia
Posts: 167
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Such a sad thing to happen but at least they were proactive and got on with what action is needed rather than bury their heads in the sand or "Go Emu"!

I'm still in shock that you have a bird store that has parrots such as Macaw's on the premisis!!
Here in Australia you need a set of permits as thick as the bible and the bank account fitter than Beyonce's to see a Macaw let alone owning one!!

I believe I was last quoted, for a hand reared 8 week old, $15k AUD plus roughly $5k for council inspection and other stuff, this was about 8 years ago now and I know it has not gotten easier to own such a beautiful animal currently.
rowie is offline  
 
post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-17-2012, 06:01 AM



 
catalinadee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 17,637
Thanks: 1,593
Thanked 2,007 Times in 1,575 Posts
Rep Power: 99
                     
I believe the reason why South American species are more expensive and uncommon in AU is because they stopped importing right?

I have no experience with PDD, but I hope everything is fine!

- Alexandrine parakeets Holly, George, Koda & - Crimson rosella Kasumi Orange winged Amazon parrot Paulie
catalinadee is offline  
post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-17-2012, 04:35 PM


 
Kate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Outer Sydney Australia
Age: 67
Posts: 887
Thanks: 135
Thanked 235 Times in 170 Posts
Rep Power: 36
                     
What state are you in Shaun. New South Wales does not require a Council Inspection for any species of bird, you don't even need their approval to put up an aviary. The National Register for Exotic birds collapsed years ago but they have been talking about introducing it but on a state run basis not national. I know of at least 5 Pet Shops that have pet Macaws on the premises, one up the central coast was stolen recently but they got him back. I haven't priced them for a while now but last time I checked they were around $7,000 some even less especially if bought from a breeder and depending on species, Blue and Golds being the cheapest. They are breeding pretty freely now in Australia so many more are coming onto the market.

We have only ever had one case of PDD here in Australia with a young Macaw that had recently arrived. No other cases have ever been reported, and no birds that had been in contact with him got sick, that was longer than 8 years ago. And yes Daisy they stopped imports of birds years ago now because of Newcastle's Disease outbreaks in the UK. All of our exotic birds that were imported had to come through the UK for Quarantine reasons. They were quarantined there and here in OZ.
Kate is offline  
post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-17-2012, 07:02 PM
 
rowie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Bundoora, VIC. Australia
Posts: 167
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Kate, you and I need to talk

I'm in VIC. The council here brought in some crud about noisy birds and quantity of birds located on a property and of course they have all sorts of ways at trying to gleen money out of the poor unsuspecting!
I never play by the rules anyway, so when the time comes! Look out!!
rowie is offline  
post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-17-2012, 07:17 PM


 
Kate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Outer Sydney Australia
Age: 67
Posts: 887
Thanks: 135
Thanked 235 Times in 170 Posts
Rep Power: 36
                     
That is not gleening money out of you that is just plain highway robbery. That maybe just your council other councils probably do not have the same rules. Try moving to the enlightened state of NSW. I have given further information in your visitors messages.
Kate is offline  
post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 12:07 AM Thread Starter
 
thepennywhistle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 151
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
Quote:
Originally Posted by rowie View Post
Such a sad thing to happen but at least they were proactive and got on with what action is needed rather than bury their heads in the sand or "Go Emu"!

I'm still in shock that you have a bird store that has parrots such as Macaw's on the premisis!!
Here in Australia you need a set of permits as thick as the bible and the bank account fitter than Beyonce's to see a Macaw let alone owning one!!

I believe I was last quoted, for a hand reared 8 week old, $15k AUD plus roughly $5k for council inspection and other stuff, this was about 8 years ago now and I know it has not gotten easier to own such a beautiful animal currently.

Thanks all for the input about this issue. I am grateful that the store owners were up front about it, and I will be talking with the vet on Monday.

Yes, the store owners have -- or had -- several large birds, both of their own and for resale on the property. They had a pair of Eclectus, a grey, and a blue and gold looking for buyers, plus the blue and gold and the ruby macaw of their own that they lost. It still could have been worse. They have a pair of Hyasinthe macaws that they bring in as well. The last time I was in a GCC on a stand was telling them off and had them cowering on the far side of their enormous birdie palace and I was laughing at the pair of softies. I haven't heard of them crashing yet, but I can only imagine how scared this couple is about losing them too.

Oh well. Hey, if it takes 8 years to manifest, my Senegal at least should be gone from old age, and my grey not much short of it. We'll hope for the best.

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly.
And never regret anything that made you smile
thepennywhistle is offline  
post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-23-2012, 12:46 AM
 
Davi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 19
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
that sucks, I hope your birds are oke.
I had a baby African Grey who died of pdd. He was only 4 months old. It was a very slow proces. He had been in a birdhospital for a week. It was horrible.
Davi is offline  
Closed Thread

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Talk Parrots Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome