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Arthritis in parrots

Hello a couple of weeks ago one of my tiels was diagnosed for arthritis from salmonella. So, she had a lump on her shoulder, i took her to the avian vet and said that she has salmonella arthritis. She was never able to fly as well and neither open her wings so much as the other birds. Now, she is taking some antibiotics, the lump became smaller (the avian also talked about surgery) and the bird doesn't seem to feel pain. She is playing all day long, even more than before because i keep her in a quarantine cage with her mate and she seems to like it better than being in the aviary. The vet told that gradually she will become more ill.
How can i see that she has arthritis for sure? As you see i pray to God that the vet is wrong.. i know it sounds a lil bit stupid, but he did a very tiny mistake in the past..
Can i check by touching the joints of her wings, if they are more swollen than normal for example , if she has arthritis.. ?
Her feet are great, her climbing skills are great, her mood is superb, her droppings are normal, she is eating, playing doing everything.
Any experience on that? Any advices? other people who have birds with arthritis what this means? My baby will die? She will feel pain? How i have to handle this?
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Hi! I have Henry who is in the vid below. This was taken a year later after when he was diagnosed as having arthritis in his shoulder joints. I have seen him walking around holding a wing upright and in stress. He even plucked under his wings.
It was thought at that time he may have to be on Metacam a lot of the time.
After asking around I was given this link. It is an Holistic treatment and my vet was a little skeptic about it. But as far as I am concerned it seems to have worked better than I had ever hoped for.
http://greenandhealthy.info/arthritishumans.html

You will need to modify. I mixed the Honey with hot water than added the cinnamon, let it cool some, then used a small syringe with the needle broken off to give 3x drops direct into his mouth for 5days once a day.

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Hi! I have Henry who is in the vid below. This was taken a year later after when he was diagnosed as having arthritis in his shoulder joints. I have seen him walking around holding a wing upright and in stress. He even plucked under his wings.
It was thought at that time he may have to be on Metacam a lot of the time.
After asking around I was given this link. It is an Holistic treatment and my vet was a little skeptic about it. But as far as I am concerned it seems to have worked better than I had ever hoped for.
http://greenandhealthy.info/arthritishumans.html

You will need to modify. I mixed the Honey with hot water than added the cinnamon, let it cool some, then used a small syringe with the needle broken off to give 3x drops direct into his mouth for 5days once a day.

Bird shower time - YouTube
Thank you very much all of your videos are awesome, how do i know that she is in pain and need metacam or any other medication? Wait till the vet told me? I will told him about the holistic treatment and will try it..
How will i know when to start any treatment? I have to do it now even if she isn't in pain or if she doesn't seem to be in pain? Birds hide their illness, so how i am supposed to know if she is in pain? Thank you very much for your time i greatly appreciate it.
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Thank you for the comments about the vids of my own flock and the others I have interacted with. Birds are cool. And so very honest.

This treatment will not harm her in anyway, and what it should do is help with any inflammation that is there in any of her joints.
So from my point of view, if she has been diagnosed with arthritis it would not hurt to give this a go, but just for a few days (no more than a week) and see if you can spot any signs of her in any trouble a week or two later.
And from that point on I would only dose if I feel there is any pain, and I am sure if you are aware you will see that she is less comfortable, if she has another attack.
Henry has not shown any signs of pain since I dosed him. And he gets no other medication.
I know he is old, but have no idea how old that is. I can tell from just general features. And as I am at least his fourth owner, know he must have a quite a few years on him.


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I don't feel that having arthritis would necessarily mean that her life will be bad or anything. People have successfully managed to adjust cages for arthritic birds with no problem, but most birds are also put onto pain medication. I would definitely listen to your vet, if you feel they are suitable. Are they a proper avian vet? Having used a normal vet for some time I found them useless when it came to birds and I found a fabulous one who is brilliant. If you don't trust your vet I would find another, or maybe at least get a second opinion? Looking into salmonella induced arthritis I would say that it could be cleared up with some antibiotics. I would begin adjusting the cage for her to start with while you're waiting for antibiotics and stuff...

Read this from avian web, it has some good information about the things you can do to help out, adjusting the cage, diet and vitamin deficiencies etc. It will help you a lot I think http://www.avianweb.com/arthritisbirds.html

Hope it helps!

May I just add that I have used aloe for many things and have found it to be fantastic with just about every problem! I use it on my hawks legs and feet to keep them nice and not let them dry up and get all crackly haha

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Daisy! If I had listened to my avian vet I would of been dosing Henry with Metacam for the rest of his life and you know the risk of using Metacam on a prolonged period could have on his body? And the stress of catching him all the time to dose him.
That on top of the pain killers doing absolutely nothing to cure the problem.
Why would you?
The results I have seen with my own eyes tell this is worth a shot and there is no risk.
Henry leads a normal life and needs no special help. And as per my vid shows him as one very happy Tiel.

On a personal note I have arthritis and do understand some of the things I cannot do anymore and I live with the pain and no man made medications.
So if I can take a simple holistic treatment and use it with out my system being screwed by prescribed meds I prefer that.

Nana2424 When you manipulate a joint that is arthritic you can feel the rough and the bird will react to this movement. get your vet to show you. You will never cure this completely. You will need to adjust diet, that can help. Fennal seeds and anything that is high in Omega3 will help. You can also step up calcium in take, but be warned it is not advisable to step up calcium intake if you are feeding pellets. This can cause an imbalance and be detrimental.


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