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African grey what am I doing wrong?

I want to buy an african grey parrot. But every time I buy one my angels died on me. I took great care of them and even bought a bird heater but to no avail. I wanted to know if it was me doing something wrong or is it the climate or something that they cannot withstand. How do you guys keep them warm? The whole year they are perfectly healthy but when cold weather comes in they just get sick. How do you guys cope winter? Thanks a lot for any advice.
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We will need a lot more detailed information hun.

1) where are they kept? What are the seasonal temperatures they experience.

2) what size is the cage or avairy they are in. If it's an avairy then what measures have you taken to provide shelter from wind and rain etc?

3) what are they fed and how often.

4) do they get any supplements.

5) are they around other animals.

6) do you use anything that could give off fumes near them? Candles, air fresher, non stick coolware, hair spray, bleach etc.

7) where do you buy them and how old are they

8) do they ever get vet checks

9) what are the symptoms before they die? Is it always the same

Other memebers might think of more but its a good start. Please remember we can only speculate as we are not actually there.

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If you can answer Layla's questions we can most definitely help. Have you considered getting a necropsy done? It would reveal what is actually happening to the birds and once it is ruled out you can stop whatever it is from happening

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We will need a lot more detailed information hun.

1) where are they kept? What are the seasonal temperatures they experience.

2) what size is the cage or avairy they are in. If it's an avairy then what measures have you taken to provide shelter from wind and rain etc?

3) what are they fed and how often.

4) do they get any supplements.

5) are they around other animals.

6) do you use anything that could give off fumes near them? Candles, air fresher, non stick coolware, hair spray, bleach etc.

7) where do you buy them and how old are they

8) do they ever get vet checks

9) what are the symptoms before they die? Is it always the same

Other memebers might think of more but its a good start. Please remember we can only speculate as we are not actually there.

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Thanks a lot guys for replying. Sorry for the delayed answer. I was a bit busy with work.

My african greys lived in the living room. The temperature in the summer here is around 95 F (35 C) and in the winters it is around 57 F (14 C).

They didn't live in a cage per se. I mean it is an open cage. It is quite big.
I used to feed them sunflower seeds, fruits, vegetables, peanuts. I used to feed them two or three times a day.I gave them no supplements.

No there were no other animals. Just my angels. I kept them away from fumes and bleach etc. I didn't use any non stick pan. I don't use hairspray and all the bleach and stuff are in the pantry. They never went there.

I bought them from a bird market. They were 2 year old. I took them to the vets when they got ill.

The symptoms were ruffled feathers. Cloudy eyes. Runny cere. Reduced appetite. Change in bird droppings. The symptoms were almost always the same.

I am sorry I did not get the necroscopy done. Thanks again
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Sorry the winter temperature is around 50 F or less
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If they were from a bird market I can imagine psittacosis would be running wild and the symptoms sound about right. Get all birds disease tested once you have them, otherwise you will have to go through what I had to go through well, from the sounds of it you already have done

Also, they need a more varied diet but that wouldn't have been the cause however peanuts can cause aspergillosis, which also has similar symptoms

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Similar to human illnesses, often those symptoms can be found with a few different issues. Fecal samples and blood samples are probably the only way to be sure which one but they are serious if left untreated. It's a shame your vet couldn't pin point it. The conditions daisy has mentioned are likely. Even stress from a new home etc can cause a bird to get respiratory infections. The bacteria in the air everyday wont harm a healthy bird but a bird who is run down through stress can get ill and as birds are prey in the wild they don't really let on if they feel unwell as it could be the difference between life and death.

I had 2 tiels from a foreign bird market. One in ok condition and one in bad condition. Thankfully they didn't come with disease but I gave them brewers yeast a few times a week sprinkled on their seed (great for stress and over all health), aloe Vera in the water twice a week (great for skin and feathers) and vitamin C in the water once a week (hard to get on a dry diet) and I also mixed parrot pellets in with the seed. I did this for 2 weeks then the next 2weeks it was just seed and pellets and plain water. Then I'd start again. This was so they didn't overdose on the extra suppliments as well as the pellets (advice I found looking online and seemed to work).

They both came into great condition in a month or so

Birds can be fussy about new food but fresh fruit and veg weekly will also do the world of good. If you check the diet section of our forum I'm sure there are already topics advising what is safe and what isn't.

I also heard that parrots shouldnt be kept as low as 15c or lower for a long period of time. It might be worth having you next bird (should you choose to get one) a degree or two warmer over winter and see if it helps. X


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