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Muffin is sick :(

She is very lethargic today and not interested in food She had really watery poops yesterday, but was still eating her seed/pellet mix and millet. She also drank normally. Today she is very sleepy and hasn't touched her food, even when I put it in my palm right under her face. She pooped a couple times and they were more solid, but still pretty runny.

I have her cage half covered now and I provided multiple food cups throughout the inside. I called a few vets and no one is available to see birds today I am going to see if I can get an appointment for her with an avian tomorrow, but is there anything else I can do in the meantime for her? She has an appointment already scheduled for next Saturday but that is way to long to wait! I have emailed a few local AV's to ask for advice and see if I can bring her in tomorrow.

Also, she has fallen a few times in the week we have had her (she has really poor balance and clipped flights) so I hope she doesn't have any neurological damage from it I am so sad. Please send good thoughts for my little Muffin!
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Aww I hope she is ok... Healing thoughts going your way!
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I am thinking that if she had kept falling, had she perhaps broken her sternum or keel bone? I can only imagine how much that would hurt! She may have appeared okay at first and hidden any pain but perhaps that could be it?

Pictures are always the best to see how a bird may be sick. Is she puffed up?

Do you have a heat source at all too? Like a heat lamp?

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Here is a video of her just now. She doesn't seem to be any more puffed up than normal, and she is perching well. She still has wet droppings today and there is not much solid in them, probably from not really eating. My poor little girl I don't have an extra heat source for her, but it is about 80 degrees F in our house today and pretty humid.

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I knew she has bad wings and all, but her eyes just don't look right to me. Are you taking her in tomorrow then (to the vets that is)? Problem is, whatever it is, they can't treat it until they know what it is. They can probably do some in house testing for things like psittacosis though

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So I just went upstairs to check on her and she is pacing back and forth on the cage floor chirping and wanting to come out!! I have no idea what is going on, but she is like full of energy now. I had her out of her cage most of the day yesterday so maybe it was just too much for her and she was overstimulated? I am keeping her in her cage all day today so she can try to rest and I guess I will just monitor her and see how things go. I will still try to get her in tomorrow if I can because I wanted to take her in regardless. Fingers crossed it was just stress and nothing else!
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Hopefully it is nothing too bad, but remember that birds are prey animals and will act like they have perked up too not meaning to put you down! But she really does need to see that vet, just in case

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No it's ok, I am going to try to get her in tomorrow wherever I can, I just hope it's not too late Why do these things always happen on Sundays!!
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This was her just now, little stinker! She wants to come out but I'm keeping her in so hopefully she will rest and eat today.

Feeling better, maybe - YouTube
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Big hugs! Hope Muffin gets well soon.
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Muffin laid an egg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't believe it. She looked like she was straining to poop yesterday, and maybe she was, but maybe she was also trying to move the egg down? I'm almost hoping this was the cause of everything and not something awful I still need to wait for the vet to open so I can call and hopefully get her in. Crazy!!! I hope she doesn't keep laying...
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I replied to your post on TC hope you can control Muffin's laying.

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Thanks, I got it! I hope I can too! We let her out to walk around and she went right for the closet behind my bf's shoes, so I kicked her out because I don't want to provoke more laying, and he said she's been going in there all week! Poor ignorant man So she obviously has high hormone levels. I blocked off the closet and she was still trying to force herself in there. Little bugger
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Hahaha! Maybe that was it all along egg lethargy can be terrible

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She is totally back to normal... and driving us nuts today She is either hunting around for a nesting spot of I let her out or pacing and screaming in her cage if I don't :P But hey, I would much rather take rowdy and noisy over unhealthy any day!! I couldn't make a vet appointment until tomorrow after work, I'm not worried about her anymore but I'm hoping everything goes well for the check up Thanks for everyone's support!
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Muffin Update from Vet Visit:

She is basically a hot mess No more eggs today, but the vet said her vent is swollen so she might lay more. She thinks she has low calcium and that I need to supplement her with calcium drops. Of course the kind she told me to get is not in stores anywhere so I had to order it online and it's not going to come until Monday. But she thinks that's why she has poor balance, falls, why she can't use her wings as well as she should, and why her egg wasn't fully developed with a hard shell. I am going to try to give her hard boiled egg or something in the mean time. She already has a calcium block which she chews in her cage and I got a multi-vitamin for her water.

As for her wings, she pretty much said she has never seen or felt wings like that in her life She said her bones don't feel weak, they just feel really deformed and some out of place a little, and the way some of her feathers grow is straight (point outward more than laying flat where they should). She said her flight feathers are long enough where she should be able to get some leverage at least, but she can't, so that's why she thinks it is calcium related too. She said she was probably born this way, which means if she has these visual deformities, she could also have things internally that weren't developed properly. The only way to really know is to do x-rays, which means using anesthesia, and is going to be $300-400 I don't think I'm going to do it. It's so much money, I don't want to put her under, and I just don't think it's necessary to her well being. She's not in pain and whatever happens is just going to happen. Some might think that is wrong but that's just how I feel about it.

She was a very good girl for the vet She let her handle her (a lot, actually) with only a few little nips and squeals :P and she even sat on the scale all by herself! The vet was ready to towel her and I did the bird mom move, like "Oh no, she can do it on her own! My Muffin is a good girl!"

So I'm going to give her lots of "dark" time if possible and just keep watching her. Hopefully there are no more set backs (or eggs!) and maybe this calcium will help things out It only cost me a $50 vet visit and a 2 hour round trip car ride So much for a birthday present for myself!
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I am sorry she's having these issues, but I agree on not having her xrayed... I think it is a risk and stress she does not need right now , not to mention the money. Hope she will be ok.
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Another egg this morning But otherwise she is ok. This was was also very thin and cracked so I threw it away. She has more solid poops now though so I'm hoping this darkness is helping her condition. She ate some hard boiled egg today too

Happy as a clam today!

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Cute photo!
It'll be good when she gets on that calcium - hopefully the eggs will harden up

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Oh I'm glad she's okay and you figured out whats wrong!

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