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Talking Ashlynn the grey is home!

I find that I am forced to start a new thread. Ashlynn came home with us tonight!

Yes - pictures are required. No - I can't post yet.

She looks like all other greys, lol.

We didn't get to bring her home until late because we took her home after our bird meeting, so I was afraid to turn out the lights on her because she hadn't had much time in the cage, but finally I decided the others were suffering and so I turned out the lights.

She has been a darling. She weaned two weeks ago, but I was expecting my tax refund for 2009, and it is still messed up! The folks at the bird store have been wonderful.

Because of the mix up (I think it is purposeful) with the refund, I can't afford to get her new cage right now. I decided to put her in Roni's cage, which is over 31,000 cubic inches, anyway. It is not as wide as they recommend for a grey, but it has more actual cubic space than the cage they recommend because it is so tall. If she won't use the space, it won't be helpful, but if she will, I'll probably just keep her in this cage, anyway.

Why? Because I moved Roni into Shira's cage and Shira into a small cage we had purchased last year to take the little birds to school in. Shira is kind of overactive in the small cage, and it is definitely too small for a full-time cage for her, but Roni is exercising and playing more in the small cage that is actually Shira's fulltime cage than she did in the big cage. Who knew? She seems thrilled with the change. In fact, I couldn't keep her out of the cage when I was changing her stuff to it. She came out of the big cage on her own and went into the little one. She has been playing with gusto ever since. I had noticed that it took Roni a long time to start to play much in the big cage, and I had wondered about letting her try out the smaller cage again, so now I know.

I won't leave Roni in Shira's cage long term. I'll return Shira to her cage, but the new cage I purchase, when I am able to get one, will either be for Roni or for Daisy. I haven't decided who will get the new cage and who will keep the cage Daisy is currently in, which was Roni's original cage. She played all the time in that cage, almost as much as she is playing in Shira's cage now. My guess is that she would be very happy to have her original cage back.

I can't believe how much fun she is having in the conure sized cage. I couldn't bear to cut down her number of toys by too much. I felt so guilty moving her in there, so I stuffed this cage full. She had more toys in the great big cage, but this cage is packed. She can't get from one perch to another without banging into a toy. She seems to love being able to sit on one perch and play with two or three toys at the same time. She can make her triangle swing bang into all sorts of items now, too, and that is another favorite game. She is once again hanging upside down by one toe and swinging like a monkey, which I never saw her do in the other cage. My guess is she was too afraid of falling in the taller cage. I guess she knew she could get hurt if she fell in there, but doesn't worry about it here when the fall is not so far. Well, really, it doesn't matter what the reason is, but the fact is that she is getting much more exercise in the little cage. It would be foolish to return her to the big cage when she doesn't exercise nearly as much there. The entire reason for getting her the bigger cage in the first place was so she could have more exercise.

Well, this turned into more information about Roni than anyone ever wanted to know and very little information about Ashlynn.

Ashlynn came home in a very small carrier. We also didn't have the ability to order her the carrier I want to get for her. She just went right into the little carrier and never made a peep. She was much less frightened by the orderal of moving than Roni had been when she came home. That surprised me. I thought a grey would be as stressed as a senegal with a transition like that. Ashlynn has always been pretty steady for a grey. Even when she had only down and a few pinnies on her head, she just watched whatever was going on but didn't get stressed. Her clutchmate would be crying and lunging, and she would be searching for food, or eating.

She vocalized a few times, and I was surprised at how much louder she is than the others. I know that sounds strange. She is bigger, so she has a right to be louder, but in the bird store greys don't seem loud at all. I guess loudness is relative, and the store is full of macaws, cockatoos, cockatiels, and conures.

So far, she seems fine. She found her water and drank a bit, but although she is sitting on the edge of one of her food dishes sleeping now, I do not believe she tried any food.


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I'm glad she's home safe and sound!! Just wait till she gets comfortable in the house, then you'll really get a feel for her voice Greys tend to be as loud as they learn to be, if that makes sense. The louder the noises they learn to mimic, the louder they can be



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Yay you have her ! I know what you mean about cage changes and birds liking one more than the other. I can't wait to hear more!
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Ashlynn has eaten almost nothing!

She has a foraging box with dried vegetables in it. She appears to have eaten a few of those. She did not try her sprouts at all, but that didn't surprise me. However, she has not touched her pellets, either. Her pooh is very bright green, but not black yet. She is also going to the bathroom much more than normal for her.

She wanted to be held. My rule has always been to leave a new bird alone to adjust to its new cage for a couple of days, but she cried for me, so I got her out. She just wanted to be held and petted. I did get her to eat about five pieces of dehydrated vegetables while she was out with me. Then I held her dishes. She wouldn't eat the pellets at all, though she did pick up and discard both kinds. I got her to eat some quinoa sprouts from my fingers. She did seem to like them, but they are very tiny and it was difficult to get them into her mouth from my fingers. She rejected the buckwheat sprouts, which are much larger, repeatedly, but finally ate one.

I made her a plate of oatmeal, nuts, and vegetables and tried getting her to eat while I ate. She ate four pieces of vegetable and bit an almond in half and bit a walnut in half. That is all she has eaten.

She has always been a chow hound in the store, eating long before she was supposed to be old enough to do so.


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She is playing with toys a little. She had just learned to pop the beads off of one of her toys right before we brought her home from the store, and she had finished popping all of the beads off of that toy today. She is also playing with a new toy right now.


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Nanay, it sounds like Ashlynn is excited to be home! You give her a few days and she will be her chow hound self.
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Most birds don't eat much when arriving in a new home - don't worry too much about it, unless her poop becomes discolored or it continues after a few days. Is she drinking at least? As to her pooing more often, it's likely due to stress and nerves



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Ashlynn's pooh is still bright green. She is drinking. I have seen that repeatedly. She did eat some Volkman's soak and serve today. She just pushes the pellets around with her beak. I think she doesn't like what I have, even though she had these at the store, but they also offered her stuff I don't have. I may just stop and ask what she liked the best when she was there and give her some of it for a few days until she is more comfortable here. The pellets I have were offered to her in the store, but they offer a wider variety than I do.

I also think she is only eating when I am here. However, I do see evidence of playing with toys while I am gone.

She makes almost identical noises to Roni, but much louder and much deeper in pitch. It is so cute. She growls very deeply, but not a scared or begging growl. She just sounds like she is a very grumpy girl, lol. She never growled like this when I was around her in the store.


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Awww! She sounds so adorable!! Can't wait for pics! Glad she seems to be eating more today
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Ashlynn still worries me regarding eating. I'm going to monitor her intake very closely today.
She is exploring the cage and playing with many of the toys. There are areas she still hasn't seemed to visit. She has been on the boing a lot today, and she wouldn't get on it at all yesterday, so she's aclimating herself. She is very clumsy. I didn't spend a lot of time watching her in her cage in the store. They said she got around well, but I don't see that here. (She seems like a clumsy baby, nothing worse.) I don't know if she is reverting back to a more babyish behavior or if their definitions of bird behavior are different from mine because they have mostly babies in there while I have mostly adult birds.


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Ashlynn still isn't eating nearly what I think she should eat, but her pooh is still green, which means she isn't digesting her own body reserves at this point. She did finally eat some TOPs pellets this morning. Those are the first pellets I've seen her eat. I gave her more nuts than would be usual for one day yesterday, because I was so worried about her not eating.


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I brought home some of the other pellets she had been weaned onto in the store. These are colored. She hate a certain kind of red one and then a certain kind of green one. I'm going to just let her eat whatever kind of pellets she wants for two weeks. Then I'll try to get her onto pellets I consider good for her.

She is still behaving in a very sweet manner.


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Hows Ashlynn doing today? Those darn pellets can be a pain. I feed my Zupreem, but they all prefer Kaytee fruity pellets. So I mix them half and half and won't buy Zupreem for the conures anymore. I bet Ashlynn likes the flavored kind?
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When I got home today Ashlynn had eaten many of the fruit flavored pellets I'd gotten her yesterday. They are a mixture of Zupreem and some other kind of fruit pellets the store feeds, but I can't remember the other one. Additionally, she had eaten ALL of her TOPs pellets - which she was just barely eating a few of until today. What's up with that? I'm glad, but why would she just barely eat the TOPs when they were abundantly available and now pick them out and eat all of them when there are just a few of them mixed in with the fruity pellets?

She belongs in this house, because she is STRANGE.


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Ashlynn just got hungry finally! You say she ate them up while you were gone, typical "don't look at me behavior!"
I have found with my birds that if you restrict the ones you want them to eat they will dig for them. Our conures are eating them more than the seed mix, which is Volkmans.
The budgies would not touch pellets other than to throw them on the cage floor. So I put them in a silo feeder, now they eat them up.
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Ashlynn is doing a lot more playing today. I guess she feels more comfortable, and her stomach is not as empty. She felt safe enough to venture over and try to disassemble the thermostate for the heat to the room. I think she tried to say, "pretty bird" today. It was spoken in a very deep voice, so I think it was her. Elisa says "pretty bird" constantly, so everyone else has a rendition of it, too. Ashlynn is very affectionate and wants many more minutes of scritching than she did in the store right now, which is good because I can't pet Roni at all right now without her trying to regurgitate and Shira is all pin feathers and a total grouch.


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Ashlynn continues to eat well and have normal pooh, so I think we are over that hurdle. She is very affectionate, much more affectionate here than she was in the store. I wonder how long she will be cuddly. I do not hear reports of cuddly adult greys. I am enjoying it while it lasts.

I can't pet Roni at all now because any petting results in regurgitation, and I don't want to encourage that. I had thought they did not mature sexually until 3 years of age, and perhaps they don't, but the vet said this is a normal age for birds of this size to be having their first hormonal stages, so pre-puberty or something along those lines. I hope she is past this stage before Ashlynn starts into her first one, and I think she might be since she is a bit more than a year older than Ashlynn and also a smaller bird.

Often I am simply amazed at how much I enjoy Ashlynn. I do remember feeling that way about each of them when they first came home. I knew I wanted them badly, but was surprised at the depth of my attachment to them as it grew.


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From what I've seen, Greys are super cuddly as babies and as they get older, usually at the 1 year mark, they lose some of it. Not that they don't want cuddles in any way, just that it's on their terms - when THEY want it, for as long as THEY want it, etc

Goober is entering into her hormonal phase a little early as well - we've gotten past the barf on everything for any reason point, but if she sees my feet she HAS to run over and barf on them Also, if she burrows or hides under anything (my shirt, sheets, etc) she gets nesty and barfs while chewing them up into a nice "nest" I have holes in the front of most of my t-shirts now from her trying do dive down my chest and burrow, the little brat



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Ashlynn gets cuddlier and cuddlier, and, actually, Roni is now cuddling again and sweet.

I've never had a bird cuddle like this. Ashlynn will just collapse against my chest with her head under my chin and let me pet her for - as long as I will, lol. When she needs to pooh, I put her on the perch we use for that, but she leans against my hands like a dead thing until she finally gives in and stands up on the perch, poohs almost immediately, and then collapses back into my hands to be returned to her spot on my chest. She's been at it a long time tonight. I should go to bed, but I can't force myself to.

My blood pressure cuff is here. I wonder what my blood pressure is after this? lol

Unfortunately, she has been biting Cannary quite a bit, and now Cannary is afraid to handle her. She will still move her on the T perch, and Ashlynn is great on it, so that is good. Also, she put a glove on today to hold her, and the glove didn't bother Ashlynn a bit, so I'm going to let her keep using it. I don't want Cannary to be afraid of her. She won't touch Roni, and with good reason. She will still help with Shira if necessary, and that is good. I don't think Shira's bites hurt, but to Cannary they are painful. It is also quite possible she bites Cannary harder than she bites me.

Cannary wants Ashlynn to learn to say, "I love you," so I am saying that to her a lot. Cannary is mad at Paul because Ashlynn is imitating Elisa's, "pretty bird". I told her it just means she will be able to talk and learn a lot of things, but she is still mad at Paul. It is probably simply that she WANTS something to gripe at him about. He gripes at her all the time because her miniature poodle is yappy - which is why he and I both wanted her to get a standard, lol. Elisa is officially Paul's bird, so you see the reasoning here. (kids - only Paul is an adult )

Ashlynn loves her toys. She is already hanging upside down from many of them. She fell today and had a look like a cat when she hit the cage floor - you know that "I'm not a clutz. I intended to do that" look.

I'm going to have to give Roni and Shira special time tomorrow, because I just couldn't put Ashlynn away once this started tonight.


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