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Countdown begins until I get my male Eclectus!

In about 9 months time (October) I am getting a male Eclectus. His name is going to be Inca. I don't know whether it will be a baby or re-home, looking more towards a re-home, if so, he might already have a name which is okay!

I have been doing TONS of research over the past 8ish months, the most research I have done on Eclectus' so far, is diet — I know it is very different, not to mention extremely important. I have also been in contact with a holistic bird vet and have watched his Eclectus videos. For the past 2 weeks I have been searching for a cage, getting opinions on cages, as well as perches, toys and etc, I have (on another forum) seen some Ecletus owners cage set-ups which has helped a lot so I know the bigger the cage the better (like it is for all birds) all the fun toys, and different sorts of perches and such to put in. I have also done a lot of reading on Eclectus behaviors, health, difference between the male and females, and so on.

Anyway, I have been visiting this website over and over again going over all the information: http://www.landofvos.com/eclectus.html

If anyone else wants to chime in and say anything about Eclectus' (the bad or good, or both) then please do! Or you can tell me what your Eclectus' if you want, and photos would be a bonus.

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Good luck with your new bird (when you get him!). I don't know much about Ekkies but from what I've seen they seem so laid back and calm.

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Ekkies are sweeties They do have some diet restrictions - no colored pellets, very little peanuts, etc. We had an ekkie we groomed who's beak overgrew constantly, needed trimmed every month. He had every vet test under the sun done, and she didnt know why. They took him off peanuts? No more beak overgrowth They can also be pluckers. Otherwise, they're hardy, sweet birds!



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You must be excited! I have a Male that is being left to me in a will. :P He's huge!!

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Yes, I know all about their diet, I have done research on diet its self more than anything else. The main part of his diet will be: fresh vegetables, cooked vegetables, fruits, lentils, grains, sprouts. And then Pellets will only make a very small part of his diet.
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Yes, I know all about their diet, I have done research on diet its self more than anything else. The main part of his diet will be: fresh vegetables, cooked vegetables, fruits, lentils, grains, sprouts. And then Pellets will only make a very small part of his diet.
What are lentils?

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What are lentils?
Lentils are really good for not only your birds, but you too! They are part of the bean family, and are high in protein. You can put them in soup, and you can sprout them as well.

Photo of Lentils:


Every few months I cook a huge batch of Peas, Barley, Lentils, Chick Peas and Whole Green Lentils, this is a meal my birds get daily, they LOVE it and it is really healthy. I put mine in freezer zip-lock bags once they have simmered until soft and have cooled and then put them in the freezer, and it lasts up to 12 months. (each day I defrost some and serve)

1. Put contents of Peas, Barley, Lentils, Chick Peas, Whole Green Lentils in a pot
2. Fill with water until it is just covering
3. Soak all together in a pot overnight (8-9 hours)
4. Drain them (really well)
5. Put clean water in
6. Simmer until soft
7. Allow to cool, serve, any left over can be put in freezer zip-lock bags and put in the freezer

Here is a photo of one of the batches I cooked last time, there was 2 batches:


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Lentils are really good for not only your birds, but you too! They are part of the bean family, and are high in protein. You can put them in soup, and you can sprout them as well.

Photo of Lentils:


Every few months I cook a huge batch of Peas, Barley, Lentils, Chick Peas and Whole Green Lentils, this is a meal my birds get daily, they LOVE it and it is really healthy. I put mine in freezer zip-lock bags once they have simmered until soft and have cooled and then put them in the freezer, and it lasts up to 12 months. (each day I defrost some and serve)

1. Put contents of Peas, Barley, Lentils, Chick Peas, Whole Green Lentils in a pot
2. Fill with water until it is just covering
3. Soak all together in a pot overnight (8-9 hours)
4. Drain them (really well)
5. Put clean water in
6. Simmer until soft
7. Allow to cool, serve, any left over can be put in freezer zip-lock bags and put in the freezer

Here is a photo of one of the batches I cooked last time, there was 2 batches:


Interesting though every time I ever sprouted something it never turned out and I'm not even sure where I can get them around here I've never seen them in a store.

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Interesting though every time I ever sprouted something it never turned out and I'm not even sure where I can get them around here I've never seen them in a store.
How did you do it?

Common causes for sprouts to turn out inedible:
  • Seeds are allowed to dry out
  • Seeds are left in standing water
  • Temperature is high or too low
  • Insufficient rinsing
  • Dirty equipment
  • Insufficient air flow
These problems are easily solved by an automatic sprouter that mists and drains the sprouts at regular intervals. To control temperature, in the winter a warming blanket can be placed under the sprouter, and in the summer small fans in the lid if it's very hot and humid.

http://www.avianweb.com/sprouting.html

GETTING STARTED
You may want to prove to yourself that your birds really will enjoy sprouts before you start. If so, before you go to bed tonight, place the seeds that you plan to feed your birds tomorrow in a colander and rinse very well. Then place them in a bowl or pan of pure water to soak overnight. The water level should be several inches over the top of the seeds. By morning, the seeds will have absorbed the water and plumped up to have a moist consistency much like fresh seeds. Rinse, drain until dry, and spread over the top of your bird's soft foods. Most birds show a definite preference for soaked seeds. When you are ready to embark on your sprouting adventure, start with sunflower seeds, mung beans, lentils and wheat berries. Buy the seeds from a health food store and follow these easy directions for sprouting in a colander, a wide pan, or a glass jar with a mesh lid held in place by a rubber band. You may sprout one type of seed per container in order to become familiar with the amount of time that each requires to sprout, or you may sprout them all together.

  • SELECT seeds that have been grown organically or that are free of harmful chemicals.
  • MEASURE one half cup each of shelled sunflower seeds, mung beans, lentils and wheat berries. Measuring will become unnecessary once you become accustomed to sprouting.
  • INSPECT and remove broken and damaged seeds which will not sprout and can cause spoilage.
  • RINSE well until the water runs clear.
  • SOAK overnight in pure water (and antibacterial solution if desired). Water level should be well above the top of the seeds to allow for swelling. Houseplants can benefit from the nutrients in the soak water.
  • RINSE well in the morning.
  • SPREAD seeds in colanders, glass jars, or pans and place in a dark, well-ventilated area.
  • RINSE well several times a day.
  • HARVEST when small tails appear, usually in one or two days.
  • DRAIN UNTIL DRY before serving to your birds. Dry sprouts will continue to grow in your birds' dishes during the day instead of spoiling as wet or cooked foods often do.
Sprouts need moisture, proper temperature and adequate air circulation. As they grow, sprouts release carbon dioxide and other gasses and create waste that must be removed by rinsing. If sprouts ever have an objectionable odor or look moldy, discard them, sterilize the equipment, and begin again. Never feed questionable or spoiled sprouts to your birds. Sprouts smell earthy and should not have an objectionable odor. Leftover sprouts will keep for several days if refrigerated. Rinse and drain them daily until they are used.

I buy the bags of Peas, Barley, Lentils, Chick Peas and Whole Green Lentils from Woolworths. (Supermarket) Each of them come in separate bags, not already mixed, you have to mix them together yourself.
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How did you do it?

Common causes for sprouts to turn out inedible:
  • Seeds are allowed to dry out
  • Seeds are left in standing water
  • Temperature is high or too low
  • Insufficient rinsing
  • Dirty equipment
  • Insufficient air flow
These problems are easily solved by an automatic sprouter that mists and drains the sprouts at regular intervals. To control temperature, in the winter a warming blanket can be placed under the sprouter, and in the summer small fans in the lid if it's very hot and humid.

http://www.avianweb.com/sprouting.html

GETTING STARTED
You may want to prove to yourself that your birds really will enjoy sprouts before you start. If so, before you go to bed tonight, place the seeds that you plan to feed your birds tomorrow in a colander and rinse very well. Then place them in a bowl or pan of pure water to soak overnight. The water level should be several inches over the top of the seeds. By morning, the seeds will have absorbed the water and plumped up to have a moist consistency much like fresh seeds. Rinse, drain until dry, and spread over the top of your bird's soft foods. Most birds show a definite preference for soaked seeds. When you are ready to embark on your sprouting adventure, start with sunflower seeds, mung beans, lentils and wheat berries. Buy the seeds from a health food store and follow these easy directions for sprouting in a colander, a wide pan, or a glass jar with a mesh lid held in place by a rubber band. You may sprout one type of seed per container in order to become familiar with the amount of time that each requires to sprout, or you may sprout them all together.

  • SELECT seeds that have been grown organically or that are free of harmful chemicals.
  • MEASURE one half cup each of shelled sunflower seeds, mung beans, lentils and wheat berries. Measuring will become unnecessary once you become accustomed to sprouting.
  • INSPECT and remove broken and damaged seeds which will not sprout and can cause spoilage.
  • RINSE well until the water runs clear.
  • SOAK overnight in pure water (and antibacterial solution if desired). Water level should be well above the top of the seeds to allow for swelling. Houseplants can benefit from the nutrients in the soak water.
  • RINSE well in the morning.
  • SPREAD seeds in colanders, glass jars, or pans and place in a dark, well-ventilated area.
  • RINSE well several times a day.
  • HARVEST when small tails appear, usually in one or two days.
  • DRAIN UNTIL DRY before serving to your birds. Dry sprouts will continue to grow in your birds' dishes during the day instead of spoiling as wet or cooked foods often do.
Sprouts need moisture, proper temperature and adequate air circulation. As they grow, sprouts release carbon dioxide and other gasses and create waste that must be removed by rinsing. If sprouts ever have an objectionable odor or look moldy, discard them, sterilize the equipment, and begin again. Never feed questionable or spoiled sprouts to your birds. Sprouts smell earthy and should not have an objectionable odor. Leftover sprouts will keep for several days if refrigerated. Rinse and drain them daily until they are used.

I buy the bags of Peas, Barley, Lentils, Chick Peas and Whole Green Lentils from Woolworths. (Supermarket) Each of them come in separate bags, not already mixed, you have to mix them together yourself.
All the common causes I prolly did :/ would this be like the same thing or not?
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I do not know if the Volkman product you linked will sprout or not. It is packaged to be soaked and then cooked, and I am not seeing the ingredients, although I may not be looking well enough. My fear is that, since it is made specifically to be cooked, it may include beans which should NOT be fed until they are cooked. There are several types of beans which should NOT be served until after they have been cooked.

I got a link to The Sprout People website either on this forum or on the Linnie Forum. I love that site because it gives you all kinds of information about sprouting all kinds of things. http://sproutpeople.org/

If you can possibly get your hands on "The Easy Sprouter", which they advertise on that site, I would highly recommend it. I was able to get it at my local health food store for less than what it is advertised for on this site. It has directions with it, but you can also see many videos of people using it on this web site.

If you have a local health food store or similar that sells seeds in bulk, ask them which ones they recommend for sprouting and you can get good seeds to sprout that way. You can also buy online, and the sprout people sell tons of seeds, although I have never ordered from them. (I have, so far, simply used all the information in their site and given them no business. I do plan to order some seeds from them, soon.)

Sprouts are healthy for you, and I always eat the sprouts right along with my birds. This way I make sure they are ok.

I did want to add something about the Volkman products. I have tried their soak and serve, and I like it, and so do my birds. If you check out the Sprout People site, look at the individual beans listed on the Volkman soak and simmer on the Sprout People site. If any of those beans need to be cooked prior to serving, even if they have already been sprouted, it will say that on the Sprout People site.


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