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Hyacinth keepers?

I'm just curious-does anybody on this forum keep Hyacinth macaws? If anyone does, can you tell me what they're like? It should probably go without saying that I'm kinda NOT able or even really willing to get one of these birds, but I'm just really curious about them.
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They are definitely my favorite kind of bird. They are amazing and stunning birds. I've had first hand experience with them at the Sugarcreek Bird Farm where I used to work.




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I do not own one and don't know many who do. I know there aren't any active keepers on the forum right now. They're very gentle. Gentle giants What sort of things did you want to know about them?

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My favorite bird shop owner has 2 she brings with her to the store. $10,000 for one bird. They need lots of human contact. Even one of her birds started plucking. I do visit them at her shop they love to hold on to my finger the whole time I'm with them. I do feel sorry for them. They should be free not kept as trophies. I'm just saying.....

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My favorite bird shop owner has 2 she brings with her to the store. $10,000 for one bird. They need lots of human contact. Even one of her birds started plucking. I do visit them at her shop they love to hold on to my finger the whole time I'm with them. I do feel sorry for them. They should be free not kept as trophies. I'm just saying.....
If I were to have them they would live an aviary life for sure

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I have worked with several, and spent time with them. They are very gentle, sweet birds... generally. Some of the ones I've worked with were at the zoo and were surrendered pets and they were unpredictable, moody and nippy. So they're very gentle for macaws, but at the same time... they're macaws I would love to own one, one day, but their diet and cage needs are very intense and extreme. They pretty much need an aviary to live in, very high fat nut diet, etc



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My favorite bird shop owner has 2 she brings with her to the store. $10,000 for one bird. They need lots of human contact. Even one of her birds started plucking. I do visit them at her shop they love to hold on to my finger the whole time I'm with them. I do feel sorry for them. They should be free not kept as trophies. I'm just saying.....
If you believe that I would think that would apply to all parrots including budgies, tiels, etc.

Just because someone has a Hy doesn't mean they are trophies (though that might be the case with the lady you knew.) I knew someone with one and that bird was her child. If I had the time and money I'd definitely have one. It's my most wanted parrot.

They are super gentle, but you can never forget that they could sever your finger from your hand if they wanted to.

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The thing with hyacinth owners is they seem to fall into one of two categories... people who have them just to say "look, I have a $10k bird!" and the people who have them because they have so much passion and love for them they saved up and were willing to spend that much. The higher the price tag on the bird, the more the owners tend to cherish them - $10k is far from an impulse buy for many people.

That said? I'm from Palm Beach, Florida. I have chased away SO many trophy seekers at the shop I worked at lol. There are far less trophy bird owners than you would think... they usually get disenchanted almost immediately due to the noise and mess, so they tend to toss them aside. It's not right, but in many ways its best for the bird. I was honest with all the trophy seekers... once they realize the mess, noise, and needs of this trophy it becomes too much effort. 90% of the time, I just pushed them into the saltwater fish tank section and introduced them to it's manager who maintained rich people's tanks on his free time $10k trophy that you can pay someone else to clean and makes no noise. Was a win/win for everyone.

We were lucky enough to have a 'trophy hunter' parrot owner in once... she bought herself a Black Palm cockatoo baby, unweaned and walked into the door with this mostly featherless chick demanding we raise it for her. Paid a pretty penny for it... We would normally NEVER say yes, especially with Black Palm syndrome... but knew it would die otherwise and, honestly, wanted the chance to get to work with such a rare species. Talk about irresponsible breeders... anyways! The lady named him Goliath and once he got a little older, she fell head over heels in love with him. He started as a trophy, but when she realized how smart and affectionate he was, she fell in love. That bird is now her child, last I checked her will was made out to him too. She had no kids, her husband died, that bird was her life. So it's really hard to judge people based on the species they own, they always manage to surprise you somehow



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[QUOTE=thekarens;181186]If you believe that I would think that would apply to all parrots including budgies, tiels, etc.

Just because someone has a Hy doesn't mean they are trophies (though that might be the case with the lady you knew.) I knew someone with one and that bird was her child. If I had the time and money I'd definitely have one. It's my most wanted parrot.

They are super gentle, but you can never forget that they could sever your finger from your hand if they wanted to.

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Trophy is a strong word which in some FEW cases does fit. Heck yes I'd want a Hy too! IMHO parrots this size should be able to live and fly free. I don't think there is an aviary that is big enough for these gentle giants to have the life they are meant for. Smaller parrots can get enough exercise and attention with the right owners. There are too many birds mistreated because people don't think before they buy. I'm sick of seeing so many featherless birds waiting to be re-homed. Vicki's Hy is plucking. The Hy of the bird shop owner is plucking and it's her bird! As a child I was taken to see an elephant at the zoo in a cement inclosure with a chain around it's leg, that's how she lived, I remember feeling sad. When older I stopped going to the zoos with my parents. I went once to the zoo in San Francisco with friends, the gorilla's looked so sad as they sat there being stared at all day it made me cry! They should be free. I'm just saying...

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If you believe that I would think that would apply to all parrots including budgies, tiels, etc.

Just because someone has a Hy doesn't mean they are trophies (though that might be the case with the lady you knew.) I knew someone with one and that bird was her child. If I had the time and money I'd definitely have one. It's my most wanted parrot.

They are super gentle, but you can never forget that they could sever your finger from your hand if they wanted to.

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Trophy is a strong word which in some FEW cases does fit. Heck yes I'd want a Hy too! IMHO parrots this size should be able to live and fly free. I don't think there is an aviary that is big enough for these gentle giants to have the life they are meant for. Smaller parrots can get enough exercise and attention with the right owners. There are too many birds mistreated because people don't think before they buy. I'm sick of seeing so many featherless birds waiting to be re-homed. Vicki's Hy is plucking. The Hy of the bird shop owner is plucking and it's her bird! As a child I was taken to see an elephant at the zoo in a cement inclosure with a chain around it's leg, that's how she lived, I remember feeling sad. When older I stopped going to the zoos with my parents. I went once to the zoo in San Francisco with friends, the gorilla's looked so sad as they sat there being stared at all day it made me cry! They should be free. I'm just saying...
In an ideal world maybe but without people keeping them in captivity we are going to be totally screwed if we ever need to rely on captive populations to repopulate wild populations.

If you know what your doing and you put the right amount of time and effort and yes money into your birds care there is no reason it won't live a long happy and content life.

Yes there are some species out there I don't recommend as 'pets' but living out in an aviary in a flock and they are perfectly content and a lot safer than being in the wild where not only do they have to worry about predators, but then humans, poaching, loss of habitat etc.

We need captive populations, and yes the lowly pet owners can end up contributing to conservation.
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You all have good points that are completely valid in both regards, it all depends on the situation.

I just want to remind you to keep the discussion friendly, the OP just wanted to learn more about these fabulous birds, not have his thread turn in to an ethical debate on whether or not certain Parrots should be kept as "pets".



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Excuse me! I did go off a bit on a rant.

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Oh, no problem at all! Love to have some good discussion in the Forum, especially on some difficult subjects. The issue is when they get nasty, we want to avoid that.



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My neighbor has one. I am the only one that is not afraid of her and she well step up for me and let me pet her head.
They need large nuts in their diet. She feeds Kitty, Large nuts, fresh veggies and fruit no pellets.
These guys are huge and they talk too. Kitty well answer me when I ask how she is doing she well say Fine She also says hello and other things I don't understand. She also has a special call for me to come see her. lol
Like all macaws they need lots of toys and a huge cage. So be ready to spend money on the toys. It helps if you can make your own. Also perches need to be thick. She gets 2x4's for her perches and then a couple really hard wood ones that she can't chew up to fast. Also you well need to replace the cage from time to time. She is pulling the bars apart. She also is locked in cause if she gets out she goes around and lets all the other birds out.
Expensive to buy and keep.
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That's why you need to have a stainless steel cage for these guys. Regular cages won't do it.

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gorgeous photo! these birds are so stunning
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There's a couple in the zoo by my house. They live in a huge, walk in aviary with a few other macaws and multiple other types of N. American birds. They are breath taking, but I would never want to own one. They are too big, and I think a walk in aviary the size of a small house is about the right size living environment

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They are unique parrots, their intelligence is apparent in their eyes. I always want to spend time with them when Lauri brings her two to the store. They let me scratch their heads and bellies. And hold my fingers tight as if to say "don't go!!" They recognize me

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If I were to own one, as I said above, they'd live in an aviary. I would also have to breed them But I'd also want to free fly them or at least do it on a harness. You want to be able to give them as much as a fun, natural life as you can

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This is my dream bird...unfortunately the initial cost makes that impossible at the present time. My husband is from Brasil and he grew up with these wonderful birds flying free, many of the farmers in the area would care for injured ones in their area. He's completely supportive if we ever make the decision to invest in one, but as I said...right now isn't the right time, perhaps once the kids have graduated and i'm retired. I know that I'll most certainly look at rescues first though. Beautiful animals...
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