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Hello, I have a pair of double yellow headed amazons. My 7 years old female is having more than usual urine in her dropping. The feces part doesn't have shapes most of the time but is not runny, too much urine and more than and runny urates. I am in a region of the world that is very novice to exotic birds. I could hardly find a lab to test their stool samples. They claim there is not negative rated bacterias in the sample, I'm not sure about the accuracy of the test results though. She has good appetite and active as usual. I don't see any other unusual signs other than the change in her dropping...she's also being very loud recently . I cut the vegetables, fruits and pellets for a few days and gave her more sweet potatoes and dried foods. I added apple vinegar to the water ( as was suggested in another forum), and watched her closely...I didn't see much difference. I talked to a vet in capital and he thinks she may want to produce eggs but she can't because of the lack of calcium and minerals. He advised me to give her chicken bones and egg shells. This is what I've been doing for the past 3 days. I see slight improvements in the feces part of the stool but still too much urine and runny urates.What if she has kidney problems while I give her more calcium in her diets ? What if there is an egg binding while I don't have access to a bird specialist or a surgeon for that matter? Please help me if you could. I appreciate your help and kindness in advance.
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hi, are you giving her a lot of fruit? just wondering. sometimes that can cause water droppings too.



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Hi Juni,
I'm honestly not sure, but you are an excellent owner getting her checked out. I know that after a shower or eating fruit some of my bird's have a wetter dropping.
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Maggie,
Unfortunately, I know nothing.
My first thought would have been maybe it might be connected to sexual maturity. Are you in the Northern hemisphere or the Southern hemisphere?
I have a veterinarian appointment for my linnie next week. She has several issues, but among other things they are going to be checking her to see if high lipid levels in her blood are being caused by a liver problem or hormones. The vet said last week that if she is really a female, a fact of which we are not certain, it could be hormonal. If I can remember to, I will ask the vet while I am there if hens have increased urates when they are getting ready to lay, or maturing, or whatever. I will be able to ask her all kinds of questions like that for the price of the visit I am already going to be paying for.

There are some breeders who frequent this site who may have much more information for you than I do. Also, they may be able to point you to an avian vet you can consult with online. Additionally, I know they have some suggestions for egg binding.

I also am a member of the Linnie Forum. The members on that forum are very helpful. If you would join and post your question there, I think you would also get some suggestions. Some folks there breed more than linnies. Linnie ownership is not required to join that forum.


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I'd have to agree with Kristen; it sounds like you are doing a great job taking care of your birds. My cockatiel was egg bound once. It was very scary, but with lots of help from the vet we made it through.




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As the others have said, if she's eating a lot of fruit that could be the solution!

If you want a bird to lay eggs well and be safe then yes you should give calcium but in a very controlled way, not too much and not too little. Just be careful. She should be fine

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Thanks everyone,..sorry I couldn't reply asap, I wasn't home and didn't have internet at that location. I'm sure now that she doesn't have Diahreaha. I don't give her too much fruits...in fact I wasn't giving her fruits at all for a week, but that did not make a difference. Right now all I'm trying is giving her more sweet potatoes, mango, sprouted seeds, egg shells and chiken bones. Don't know what else to do. Don't have a vet to take her too and just hoping this diet will help her to produce the egg that she was not able too produce so far, if this is the cause of all the symptoms. I see slight changed in her dropping sometimes and then again the same problem. My credit cards don't work in US anymore,...so, can't get a help of a vet on line. I hoped by coming to these forums, I get some help from experienced owners, breeders, or vets for that matter. If anyone could refer me to someone who's more certain of my birds symptoms, please do so. I'll be really grateful. she has runny urates and more than usual urine and segmented feces ( these are the symptoms).

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Hmm... how is her water consumption? Is she drinking more than normal? It's not just fruit that will cause runny poo, it's anything wet, so any large amounts of fresh food will cause looser droppings.

You can try her on a probiotic; it could just be she doesn't have enough good gut bacteria and isn't digesting right. My linnies poo gets very bulky if they don't get their probiotics and my tiel gets a little loose.



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Hello Daisy,...How much would be a good amount of calcium for an amazon ? I don't want to harm her kidneys by giving her too much !!!

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Jenny, what should I give her as probiotic ? What kind of food or medication ? Just keep in mind that I don't have much choices in medication in Iran.
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Hmm... are you able to order things online and have them shipped? Generally, you want a probiotic that's bird safe, the one I use is bene-bac which is meant for birds, dogs, cats, reptiles, etc. Since it's something that's used for lots of animals, perhaps you will be able to find that brand at a pet supply store? I know they carry it at PetCo and PetSmart here in the States



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I'm not sure if I can find that in Iran, but I need to diagnose the problem first. That's what I've been trying to do so far....and I can't find anyone in Iran to find out what's going on with my amazon.
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Sorry I can't be of more help If she's eating well and still active, I would presume she's overall ok. Do you weigh her regularly?



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Just give her a cuttlebone to chew on and she should be fine

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I just use cuttlebones for calcium too

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