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White Capped and Blue Headed Pionus in CL

Today I see offered a White Capped and a Blue Headed Pionus on Craigslist. The want $250 for the White Capped, and $350 for the Blue Headed. $600 for both with their cage. I am not that familiar with either bird, but have done some research on the Blue Headed and liked what I have read. Both birds are a little under a year old. Both hand tame, and neither are biters.

Anyone have either of these birds? Any info you can share with me.

I eventually want to get another bird, I was thinking of a Meyers or a Senegal, but really like the looks, of the Blue Headed.



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pionus are great, quiet parrots, i want one after these guys theyre pretty laid back too



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I hand-raised many pinous; the blue heads were the most mellow. I raised one, Angel, and my mom bought her before rehoming her to someone. She was very sweet, a little shy, but very gentle. They are quiet for their size, but they can still be very vocal. The white-capped can be aggressive and cage territorial, especially in breeding season. However, since they're both young I'm sure you can work with them and prevent that



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i like the blue headed pionus too. i saw one last year that i liked but the bird wasn't that into me so i passed on it. if i found one that seemed a bit more receptive to me for a good price i'd grab it. i really like how they smell. pionus have a very distinct odor about them. some people love it some hate it.
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I love the Pi's. The Maxi is my favorite but then I'm not sure on the rest. The only other one I have even seen are Blue Heads, a young one not fully colored and 2 adults. I also Love Meyer's.

You should go meet them.

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I can honestly recommend both pionus and poicephalus. However, they are VERY different from one another.

First difference - noises. Pionus are louder, but poicephalus (senegals and meyers) voices are more shrill. I would really recommend that you listen to both types of birds before you make a decision. The pionus noises don't bother me at all, but they do greet the dawn every day, and it is loud. Pionus can also develop into problem screamers, and if you would get one of those, they are a problem, although very few actually become problem screamers. The only people I know personally who have pionus who are problem screamers have white caps. They can make a noise that sounds like a fire alarm, and they can make it incessantly. This is rare, but it does develop in some pis. My pi is not a problem screamer at all, but she will scream if she is left alone, and she won't stop until she has company. You wouldn't have to worry about that in your situation, if that is all that happens, because you have Maxx. Bird company is as satisfactory to most pis as is human company.
Poicephalus make a call that to some people sounds like nails on chalkboard. IF it sounds that way to you, it will be unbearable. My younger son is really bothered by my senegal's call. I also once met a woman who rehomed her meyers because she had the same problem with the scream that my son has. I am not bothered one bit by the poicephalus call, neither are my older son or my daughter. My mother, who also lives with me, can't even hear Roni because she no longer hears all tones, and that pitch happens to be something she can't hear.

Second difference - personality
Pionus are MUCH clamer than poicephalus. Both birds can become frightened. When pionus become frightened they wheeze and generally sit still. When pois become frightened they may fling themselves around or bite as a defense mechanism if they can't get away. (Senegals as a species are known to be more easily frightened than are meyers as a species, but you could get a more nervous or less nervous individual of either species.) Pionus are not nearly as easily frightened as poicephalus.

Poicephalus are not as active as green cheeks, but they are much more active than poinus. Poicephalus love to cuddle and participate in training. They are really fairly similar to green cheeks, but they are slightly less "wired". They do eat a bit more than green cheeks and go through toys a bit faster, but not much moreso. My senegal bites much harder than my green cheek, but she doesn't bite very often, and she has never broken my skin nor left a welt.

Pionus are much less active than green cheeks, and quite a bit less active than poicephalus. They are happy to just hang out with you. Daisy is older, so baby pionus are probably more active than she is, but Daisy can be trusted to just hang out on the back of the couch for a while and she won't tear up things, while all of my other birds need lots of toys to prevent them from tearing up my things. Daisy eats a little bit more than Roni, but she goes through toys much less quickly, so I think, if I really kept a log, that she doesn't cost me more to maintain, and she might even cost me less. I've never been bitten by a pionus, but I suspect it would hurt. Pionus will learn tricks and such, but they don't take to it as quickly as green cheeks and poicephalus.

The only other advice I have to offer you regarding both pis and pois is that they really need to have their cages against at least one wall to feel safe in their cages, and they won't be happy until they feel safe. Shira, my green cheek, has no problem if her cage is in the middle of the room or next to a window, but both Roni and Daisy need to have a wall on at least one side of their cages, and they are happiest in corners.


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I haven't met a white capped, but in doing my research, I heard the same things about aggression that Jenny mentioned.

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wow, thank you Nanay for the great info.



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I emailed the seller and have yet to hear back from them. I would love another bird, but I am SO happy with Maxx right now and really enjoying the time we are spending together. I don't know if I want to share what we have.



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That is a serious matter to consider.

I personally feel birds are happier with at least one other bird in the house. I'm not just saying that because I have so many, because I have more than any bird needs. However, I honestly to believe that when it comes to the decision about whether or not to have two birds.

I believe Maxx is very happy, though, even if you decide not to share your home and his with another bird.

If you are worried about splitting your time, remember that they will have one another for company during all of the times when you can't be at home as well as when you are there. Additionally, when they see you interacting with the other bird, that will also be entertaining.

But, yes, two birds are twice the mess, twice the noise, twice the expense, not quite twice the work, maybe, or maybe, in many ways, more than twice the work. Don't go there unless you really want to.


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Since adding my new conure to my home, Dexter seems to be a lot happier. I feel that more than one bird in the house is always best. If I were you I would happily go for it. You may feel that you wont be able to spend much time with Maxx afterwards but I'm sure you can. If I can do it + college + every other animal I have, then I'm sure you can. I LOVE pionus, at first I wasn't too keen on the idea but ever since I saw a bronze winged. Phwew! I also almost had a blue headed before and they are really really sweet and VERY pretty!

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What did you decide Bob? Did you go to see either of the pionus?

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