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So Hard to Choose!

So I've decided that instead of being impatient and just continuing to get smaller birds because they're generally less expensive and therefore easier to save up for I'm going to *try* not to get any more birds until I can save up for one of my dream birds!
Thing is, is that I need help in determining if my dream birds are actually reasonable for me to have.

The choices are an African Grey or an Eclectus.

They would need to be good with children as I have a 3 month old son, and I'd rather not have the bird become a "one person bird" and end up hating me..
Also, I'm hoping to go back to school as soon as I can and then back to work at least part-time once I feel up to it.

So for those of you that have experience with these birds maybe give me the good and bad points of each and your opinion on whether or not they'd suit my family's lifestyle? Feel free to ask any questions too to get a better view of whether they'll suit us or not.

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I can't give you any hands on info really. But I can help you a tad. I've only ever seen an ekkie once in my life and the grey I work with certainly would not be good with kids!

http://www.birdtricks.com/eclectus-parrot-info.html
http://www.birdtricks.com/eclectus-parrot-cages.html
http://www.birdtricks.com/eclectus-parrot-problems.html
http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww7eiv.htm

http://www.itsagreysworld.com/articles/about.htm
http://www.birdtricks.com/AfricanGre...rey-congo.html
http://www.birdtricks.com/AfricanGre...ongo-diet.html
http://www.birdtricks.com/AfricanGre...-problems.html

Have a browse through those and see if they will help at all!

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If you want a bird that will be better with kids, I would recommend a male ekkie. They are very gentle, mellow birds. Not super hands on, but neither is a Grey. They aren't as good of talkers, but they are much more even-tempered, less prone to being moody and snippy. Females can be nippy but I have raised/met many male ekkies and only one even tried to bite and that's because we were grooming him



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Thanks guys! I was definitely thinking the Eclectus over the Grey. I shall have a go going through those links too!



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I might be biased, but I'd get a grey! My family was so scared of him, so he only bonded to me. If everyone interacted, he'd love it. He was easy to tame, I got it done in about 2 to 3 weeks. He wasn't super hands on, but he did love a good scratch on his head until you scratched it wrong! The owners had it grow up with their kid who's in college now. With having a kid, it could teach them responsibility! ( And it lets them show off!) Kids love the talking!
The only downside is the mess. I didn't notice it because I'm not a neat freak, but my family did. There was a ton of dust and feathers. I guess I can't blame it on him, he was in the middle of a molt though. Also, his poops were far apart, but quite big. My quakers are a whole new thing with poop compared to him. If anything more comes to me I'll post.


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Thanks for the info.! The mess I don't think would be a problem. Just my 'tiel and two Budgies cover the whole bird room with seed and feathers! Hahaha. XD



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How about a amazon? Or that beautiful mustache parakeet you saw at Pj's? But between those 2, I'd go with a grey - personality depends on the bird, the grey might be a mellow fellow and the ekkie might be a chomper Have you found any ekkie breeders or any eclectus parrots in edmonton?

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Amazons are tricky. I don't recommend them to those wanting them around kids. They're pretty bitey and very stand off-ish when they want to be. Don't get me wrong, they can be fantastic birds! However, most of the birds I have met were in stores. They got the babies in who were stupidly sweet and I loved them. Then they never handled them again! And they still sell these violent not so tame for full price! Haha! Urgh. I asked them how often the birds come out and the woman went 'never'. 1495 fora vicious blue and gold macaw?!

I work with an orange-winged Amazon and a Congo African grey and they both lost their sweetness as they are never handled. Rosie (Amazon) is far more aggressive. She tries to bite a lot! She's very phobic. She doesn't wanna know anybody. Arnold however is more curious and he came around really quick. He loves scritches he's really gentle!

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I don't know much about Eclectuses but I'm assuming that in your particular situation, they'd be a better choice. I love greys but from experience I'd say they they are definately one person birds, quite timid, etc. It's great that you have decided to work towards your dream bird!




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How about a amazon? Or that beautiful mustache parakeet you saw at Pj's? But between those 2, I'd go with a grey - personality depends on the bird, the grey might be a mellow fellow and the ekkie might be a chomper Have you found any ekkie breeders or any eclectus parrots in edmonton?
Oh, I want to get a mustache parakeet eventually, just not sure when! I haven't found any Eclectus breeders around here so far, no. I found one in BC before I moved so I might just have to take a trip home once I'm ready to get one!

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Amazons are tricky. I don't recommend them to those wanting them around kids. They're pretty bitey and very stand off-ish when they want to be. Don't get me wrong, they can be fantastic birds! However, most of the birds I have met were in stores. They got the babies in who were stupidly sweet and I loved them. Then they never handled them again! And they still sell these violent not so tame for full price! Haha! Urgh. I asked them how often the birds come out and the woman went 'never'. 1495 fora vicious blue and gold macaw?!

I work with an orange-winged Amazon and a Congo African grey and they both lost their sweetness as they are never handled. Rosie (Amazon) is far more aggressive. She tries to bite a lot! She's very phobic. She doesn't wanna know anybody. Arnold however is more curious and he came around really quick. He loves scritches he's really gentle!
It is quite sad that pet stores get super sweet babies and then just let then become untame again. That'd be one reason that so many birds end up in shelters and in classified ads looking for new homes after someone bought the bird without first finding out if it was friendly or not.
That is why I like PJ's Pets, because they take out their birds and socialize with them. The blue-fronted Amazon they have at the one near me one of the girls that works there had him out with her while she was working for a while and he seemed like a sweety!

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I don't know much about Eclectuses but I'm assuming that in your particular situation, they'd be a better choice. I love greys but from experience I'd say they they are definately one person birds, quite timid, etc. It's great that you have decided to work towards your dream bird!
Yeah, I think I'm going to go for an Eclectus, at least at first. In the future if I feel I can handle both I still might get my Grey but not right now. And thank-you! I've been wanting one of these guys forever but I am not a patient person, lol. Saving up enough money to get all the supplies plus the bird seems like a monumental task to me!



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I have a female Eclectus and she is a sweetheart. I disagree that Grey's are better talkers, I have had both and my Ekkie puts my Grey to shame. Darla is very gentle and will go to anyone. Elclectus aren't needy birds either. They are content to play in their cage or come out and play with you. The only thing that I will warn about is their diet. You cannot feed them off the shelf parrot food. Fresh fruits and veggies, and just a few seeds and or nuts. Avoid anything that say vitamins added. Ekkie store they don't absorb. They enjoy germinated seeds and you can even feed them some edible flowers. Throw in some whole grains such as brown rice, kidney beans and Garbanzo beans , and you'll have a happy healthy Ekkie. Ekkie's have a long digestive tract and are prone to liver damage if they are on a fatty diet. They are a beautiful sweet bird and the male and females are both wonderful as pets. There are always the drawbacks as with anything. Females should never have access to dark places, they will try to nest and then defend that nest. Avoid that and you're going to be okay. Male Ekkies tend to hump their owner around mating time, avoid that by keeping him extra busy with games. Most important - No matter how gentle a bird is, it has the right to defend itself. First and foremost you must teach your child to respect the bird. Nothing with a large beak should have access to a unsupervised child. I've seen too many bad things happen and the bird get blamed for what is human error. Both breeds are wonderful and I adore them both, but Ekkie's are more a family bird...in my opinion anyway. Everyone adores their favorite breed and someday you'll be defending and praising yours! Good Luck.
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This post is from 2011 But thank you! I have decided against an Eclectus because of the fact that they need such specialized care.



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