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I fell in LOVE!

I was at a bird show on Sunday, and met a bunch of beautiful macaws! They were all babies, most of them were three months old. There were two three month b&g's, they were adorable! They both wanted me to give them scritches at the same time! hehe! Then there was a little sevear, 4 months, I think, he wouldn't let me pet him, but he was really cute! Then there was a two month b&g that was still being hand fed, he just LOVED scritches! It was so cute! There was also two green winged macaws, three months, the one on the right was really sweet. The one on the left, OH MY GOD! I can't begin to explain how I felt when I started scritching him. It was like my heart melted! All I wanted to do was hold him, but I couldn't. I really did want to take him home!

I can't stop thinking about him! I feel like I should have talked my mom into letting me take him home, but at the time, I know she would have said no. My mom made a deal with me that when I turn 13 (next year), she would let me get a bigger bird. In bigger, she meant an african grey or small cockatoo. But she told me she would think about letting me get a macaw if I payed the difference. So I'm going to save all my money, so I can get one. And I'm going to READ, READ, READ! I'm going to try and do a bunch of extra art. I plan on getting my dream bird.
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Please for the sake of the bird, think hard about this decision. My Severe Macaw changed my life but KC was a handful, and tested us at every shot. In my opinion, no one so young should get a big parrot, because where are you going to be in 5 years? Also a Macaw isnt a put in a cage and say goodnight bird, KC we had to make our lives around her. I just dont think it would be fair to a bird to try and bring them into your family when you are so young, and could possibly be onto other things in a few years. KC when I got her was 6, thats NOTHING compared to the thought of us having her for another possible 40 years...

KC was the product of a home where someone didn't take her out enough or feed her the proper diet, she HATED men, was afraid of the dark, was missing all her chest feathers, and her nails were curled. I'm not saying this to put you off these lovely birds, but what I'm trying to say is I don't think its a good idea for you to bring such a long lived bird into your life on an impulse, and especially because you said how cute they were, and cuddly. KC bit HARD of several occasions as she got older. They will not be as cuddly as adults, trust me. They will still want scritches sometimes, but KC could rip flesh and draw blood. They are not a bird for the unexperienced.... Also, where do you live? Your neighbours might not like a large bird screaming for attention day and night...



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In a parrot rescue, macaws and amazons out number the rest, and then come cockatoos and grays.

You sound very young; dating, college , a career, kids.... the bird won't fit your life style when you get a bit older. Then what happens to the parrot?

Really want a macaw? In the future, find a parrot rescue and volunteer, then adopt a bird from there. That bird will be so grateful.

I know it will never happen, but the big parrots shouldn't be bred any longer. Just MHO.
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Shiela when I am settled into a house with a work schedule, and money, I plan to take in another rescued Macaw, I miss KC so, and I was glad to have her in my life. They are amazing birds if you can devote the time and love to one. But the selfish thing about humans, is most don't. A "cute" baby lures them in, because it can snuggle with the kids, they can grow up together, recipe for disaster...

To Maddy, I have a large scar on my arm from where KC bit me hard, and did not let go, because I wouldn't let her have my bowl of chips. Still sound like a fun bird? I loved her very much, and she did return the affection sometimes, but these are FEATHERED CHILDREN. No one should become a parent at 13, its that simple.

Like I said, I'm not trying to dissuade you from loving them, but please, DO NOT, buy one of these birds until you can give your LIFE to them.



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I've kept birds since I was six, including my raptors. I am allowed a macaw right now. My family said they would buy one for me but as the others have said, life doesn't just go smoothly and your bird won't get the time and attention. I have done schools and college and having a job with my birds and now I don't do anything due to my health. I have 50 birds, all of which I care for. But as I said, though I CAN get a macaw, I won't take one just get. I won't be having any children of my own but until I'm moved and settled, and I'm fixed up a bit I will not be taking one. I have fallen for macaws, they're my favourite birds easily. But they don't keep that cute baby-ness that you have seen. They reach sexual maturity and BOOM. Done. That's when it will get worse and you'd be what? 16+ then! Then what would happen? I was actually getting two macaws, two blue and gold babies who would live cage free. Sorted the breeder and everything but I have sat back and thought long and hard and have decided not yet. However, as you do love birds an things I'm not saying DON'T DO IT because that's your choice, but have you considered a Hahn's macaw? They're smaller, they can depend on you less than a larger macaw, they won't need as much space and food an toys etc as a large macaw and I think it would fit into your lifestyle much better than one of the large macaws. In the UK, we don't really have birds like you guys do. We don't have loads of macaws an especially not any in rescues! It's hard to get one compare to other birds. So I would like to breed macaws. But it's totally different here. I wish we had your rescues and varieties! Good luck with your decision

May I also add I'm only 17, I'm 18 in two months time. I am not judging you by your age, it's nothing to do with that, people have always held me back because I'm young yet I'm the one who seems to know more about what I am doing than them! But what I'm trying to say is school, college, university, boys, money doesn't always go smoothly. I was doing animal management and working for a bird display team with birds of prey but I lost everything. What would of happened then with my macaws? It would be horrible to give them up

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I completely agree with the others, and I think you posted this on Talk Budgies? So as I replied there I won't repeat myself lol.

Daisy - a lot of the Macaws in zoos are actually rescues, where I work the two we have one of those was a rescue and the other is on full time loan from the owner. Where I used to work hey have 4 Parrots, 2 B&G Macaws, a Conure and Rocky and they were all rescues.
We do have specialist animal sanctuaries they just aren't as well known over here, theres a huge one up in Scotland, theres Wingz Bird Sanctuary down south somewhere, there's of course Birdline.

If you browse the ads it's heartbreaking how many are for sale, and you soon notice a pattern emerge with the ages of these birds, very few are older birds who have settled past their hormonal stage, most are in the middle of it as people don't realise what they are getting into as it's so cute and cuddly when it''s a baby

Sheila - I don't think people should stop breeding Macaws, we need a good solid foundation to fall back on when the wild birds are poached and killed too far to make a natural recovery, we do however need to stop indiscrimnate breeding for the sake of money, people need to home check when selling such long lived animals, breeders should be responsible enough to take that bird back the moment the new family no longer want/ or can no longer care for it rather than it just being passed from pillar to post. Without the captive breeding of a lot of species we that are threatened in the wild we would have no hope of recovering the population.

My dream is to someday open my own bird sanctuary and run a conservation centre alongside it to not only take in unwanted/ abused/ abandoned birds but also to help educate people and preserve the species that us humans are responsible for destroying.
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I know of birdline an stuff and I've definitely seen a lot for sale! But obviously we're smaller than the US so we don't have anywhere near as much! It's a real shame. I'd love to open a sanctuary for birds too

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I suggest you read this, this is one of my first threads I posted on here.
If you want a bird read up on its diet, behaviour, cage size, temperament, taming and training, even reading about them in the wild can help. Chat to people of this forum who own macaws. Think about where you will be in the future.
I am 15 and home schooled, don't go to parties, don't want a boyfriend, don't plan on ever getting married, DEFINITELY don't want children(birth), don't plan on leaving my parents any time soon. If I am going to university at all it might be one near me. So I got a budgie. Even budgies can live for 10-15 years. He's cute, comical, dances, talks, sings, kisses, plays, loves me, will sit on your finger for hours just chatting away to you. Only YOU can decide what bird will fit your lifestyle the most. Don't make the wrong choice, or your feathered friend will end up in a shelter.
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I know of birdline an stuff and I've definitely seen a lot for sale! But obviously we're smaller than the US so we don't have anywhere near as much! It's a real shame. I'd love to open a sanctuary for birds too
I wish had the money and space to open my own, keep hoping I win that euromillions and I'd soon be giving up my job, finding a house with loads of land and opening it up to take birds in right away! I just don't understand why people don't think before they get something so long lived, what do they think is going to happen when it matures?
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I'm hoping in the future that when I get my own home (not the one me and Jack are moving into to rent, but one to actually own) that we have enough room to build an outdoor bird room, like a proper building, and get a big bunch of cages suitable for different types and sizes of birds and then take them on. I would hopefully let people adopt but only if their circumstances matched what I wanted

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Hannah thats not what I meant... KC was a child, in every way, we came home, cared for her, went to bed. She was afraid of the dark, so we had to sleep with her. She screamed for attention (taught from her previous neglectful home), bit when you wouldn't give something to her that was in your hands, had temper tantrums to try to get her way, HATED men (attacked a few in fact), Every victory we had we celebrated, and she was lovely at times, but she was WAAAYYYY more work than people think... They arent a bird you can put in a cage, and be away for 9 hours a day, thats not fair to them. Think of them as a 3 year old child, you wouldnt lock them in their rooms would you?

Daisy I disagree, a lot of the smaller macaws, like my severe are NOTORIOUS for being nippy and hard headed. Nelson, a rescued Hahns in the Bloedel Conservatory down here is VERY dominant and bitey lol But I mean, I love them, but I wouldn't wish him on anyone lol :P



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This girl got a baby blue and gold macaw for her birthday at around your age, then decided to rehome her I believe it was (a year?) later...

I'm not trying to be mean, or accuse you of anything, but like I said, no one should become a parent at 13, and this is exactly what happened with Jayda the macaw.

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I know Hahns can be a hand full! I was just suggesting it. Maybe even a larger conure! I also wouldn't recommend you got a small cockatoo for sure

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I have a friend with three rescued 'toos and Gary says Crackers, Peaches, and Shakespeare shake the house when they get going really well!



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my budgie is a bit like a child, except if I had a child I would be taking him with me when I go out too not putting him in his cage. We used to have a mealy amazon and my budgie is more of a child than the zon was. The zon would eat out of your hand, but wouldn't let you touch him. He used to just sit on top of his cage all day, but if you had something he wanted, like a piece of fruit, a nut, a raisin, even a crisp, he would dance to get it. He only screamed once or twice in the few weeks we had him and the noise was bearable(to me, anyway) My budgie demands more attention, always wants to be on me, chirps to me when I'm out of the room. All in all it depends on the individual bird, really.
Oh, and the amazon died a few weeks after we got him, probably because the previous owners had fed him chocolate cake.
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my budgie is a bit like a child, except if I had a child I would be taking him with me when I go out too not putting him in his cage. We used to have a mealy amazon and my budgie is more of a child than the zon was. The zon would eat out of your hand, but wouldn't let you touch him. He used to just sit on top of his cage all day, but if you had something he wanted, like a piece of fruit, a nut, a raisin, even a crisp, he would dance to get it. He only screamed once or twice in the few weeks we had him and the noise was bearable(to me, anyway) My budgie demands more attention, always wants to be on me, chirps to me when I'm out of the room. All in all it depends on the individual bird, really.
Oh, and the amazon died a few weeks after we got him, probably because the previous owners had fed him chocolate cake.
Zons and a lot of larger Parrots take a long time to fully settle in their new home, trust me you would have seen just how much like a child these birds are if you had it for months or years. Budgies have nothing on Zons in the way of being like a child.
I have a Budgie I hand-reared from 13 days old, he is fully imprinted onto me and is literally my Fid, I have had my Amazon now for going on 9 months and the difference in him now to when I first had him is quite something, he has really come out of his shell now and really demands my attention and needs a lot more time with him actually interacting with him that my Budgie, I know if I don't have much time or I have a lot to do I can let Munchkin out, we'll have our time together and then I can leave him to play with his toys around my room and carry on with what I am doing. With Rocky when I am in the room he is constantly going for my attention, when he is out of his cage he is constantly with me, he wants to be on my arm and if thats not possible he has to be near me, he tries to follow me out the room, if he can't have something I have he goes into a mood, if he doesn;t get enough of my attention a day he goes in a mood or starts screaming for me which means I then have to ignore him longer so as not to re-enforce this behaviour, he has to be treated very much like a child, he does after all have the intelligence of a 5 year old give or take, Budgies are more like 2 year olds both mentally and emotionally, larger parrots are a lot more complex than Budgies.
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Zons and a lot of larger Parrots take a long time to fully settle in their new home, trust me you would have seen just how much like a child these birds are if you had it for months or years. Budgies have nothing on Zons in the way of being like a child.
I have a Budgie I hand-reared from 13 days old, he is fully imprinted onto me and is literally my Fid, I have had my Amazon now for going on 9 months and the difference in him now to when I first had him is quite something, he has really come out of his shell now and really demands my attention and needs a lot more time with him actually interacting with him that my Budgie, I know if I don't have much time or I have a lot to do I can let Munchkin out, we'll have our time together and then I can leave him to play with his toys around my room and carry on with what I am doing. With Rocky when I am in the room he is constantly going for my attention, when he is out of his cage he is constantly with me, he wants to be on my arm and if thats not possible he has to be near me, he tries to follow me out the room, if he can't have something I have he goes into a mood, if he doesn;t get enough of my attention a day he goes in a mood or starts screaming for me which means I then have to ignore him longer so as not to re-enforce this behaviour, he has to be treated very much like a child, he does after all have the intelligence of a 5 year old give or take, Budgies are more like 2 year olds both mentally and emotionally, larger parrots are a lot more complex than Budgies.
I can imagine what it is like to live with a larger parrot. My budgie is the same as the amazon I guess with that but with a larger parrot it is a lot more difficult. My budgie tries to follow me out of the room as well. And always flies to me when he is let out. When I leave the room he starts calling for me immediately, although with an amazon it would be much louder, screaming than chirping. However, I do think that budgies deserve the same amount of care, love and social interaction as a larger parrot. I don't think they are less intelligent either, although amazons are also very intelligent, just in different ways
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