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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 10-25-2012, 09:45 PM Thread Starter
 
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I use to do rescues and foster all types of animals from dogs to iguanas and just recently qiut II quit cause I couldnt handle it when I held a bird in my arms uuntil he died.....It broke my heart and so I said enough is enough....I have gotten fed up with this little girl who acts mean twords my bird and I have kicked them out and thenm after finding out they had no where else to go let them back in...call me crazy but 3 kids living on the street is something I cant live with on my ccaunsious....I made arragements where the little girl is no longer alowed anywhere near my animlas so she is stuck in her room or out side but not allowed around my bird until she trys to act right around it....I get my male bird on the 4th he is for my husband we havent thought of a name for him but he is in perfect health just the kids off to collage and so Im lucky enough to get to have him I gave all my fosters to other foster homes because I am seriously done with that I have my 3 pit bulls and on the 4th iit will be 2 birds Im happy I quit fostering I could never watch an animal die in my arms again its something I cant get over......I guess that sums it up for those who know me from other sights that have a problem Im a sucker for kids and animals and I always will be

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Nothing we do is ever straight foward, there is always some sort of difficulty along the way, just do what you can, if it gets over your head then you have to stop, just remember don't jump out of the frying pan into the fire.

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Nothing we do is ever straight foward, there is always some sort of difficulty along the way, just do what you can, if it gets over your head then you have to stop, just remember don't jump out of the frying pan into the fire.
I just got a really rude ,message and thats why I posted that It wasnt ment twords anyone I just hAD to get that out

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if someone is sending you rude messages on here, please let a mod or admin know, send them a message privately. they do NOT tolerate rude behaviours here. they will help you



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Maybe they felt hurt because you came over here. We human bahaved oddly at times when we feel something or someone is getting away from us and so we get angry because that person we once dearly love is trying to get away from us, we then attack that person with rude messages/comments in order to relieve the frustration of the feeling of being unwanted in oneself.

There, that's my human psychology for the day

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I am very sorry if you thought my message on the other forum was rude. It truly was not meant to be, but voicing concerns privately to hopefully try and help you and Sierra better. We can't help if we don't know the situation, and the situation changes forum to forum. It was truly meant to help you and hope that you would take the advice to heart. It really upset and concerned a lot of people when they heard about Tom Tom and the children who were living in animal waste. But upon calling animal control, the shelter, and even the police, they had no record of the arrests or the situation.

This was my e-mail, I apologize if you took it rudely. It was not the spirit it was meant as, but in the spirit of trying to help you get better advice on the forums.

"You don't know me, but I lurk in a lot of forums. I like reading about birds and learning new things. I wanted to send you a friendly PM with a bit of a concern. I've seen you in four different forums (Mytoos, Avian Avenue, Parrot Talk, and this one) and am really confused. You have a lot of conflicting statements about what's going on. In some places you say that you've kicked out the child who was hurting your bird a month ago, in another place it's still going on. In some places you call yourself a breeder and raising cockatoos, in others you're a rescuer. In some places the birds are rescued from horrible homes, in others they're gifts for birthday or Christmas. It's enough to make the mind turn!

I'm not PMing you out of malice, but out of the simple fact that the bird world is a very small community. There's a lot of overlapping and people are noticing that things are adding up. The story of Tom Tom was researched and the shelter called as well as animal control, news and police, and it never happened. I'm not sure if you were going for a rehome that fell through or not, but it's distressing that you created such a tale. The papers, news channels, and animal control people, as well as a shelter, have never even heard of the situation and professed confusion about it happening in their county. While it might be kept out of the news, they can't lie when people inquire and just deny a criminal case is happening.

It's worrisome because we only want the best for Sierra and her family. People can't help if they don't know the truth. I was very distressed reading a post where you wanted a cockatoo of the same color to prevent hybrids. Mating and bonded cockatoos can cause HUGE problems and raising chicks isn't for a novice.

I'd take a look at your posts, really look at them. Take a step back and come back and be truthful and open. No one can help you if you're not honest. They can only hazard guesses that might do more harm then good if they don't know the real situation. You accuse people of judging you, but you have to understand that they're trying to find out the truth to help you. You're insulting people with these lies and exaggerations. The bird community is a small one, and I'd hate to see you no longer being believed and being unable to find help when you need it. Remember the boy who called wolf?"


Again, apologies you saw it as rude. That was not the spirit it was sent with. It was sent in the hope that you might get the best help possible and the people giving advice will truly know the situations going on. Yes, it does concern me that you plan on breeding the birds, but that is simply because bird breeding is a very stressful and hard occupation. Even the smallest birds such as conures can be tricky and raising a cockatoo that's well adjusted and ready to become a wonderful pet is harder still.

I know you've been angry at rude people on the forums, but many of the ones I lurk at have never been rude. They've asked questions, sometimes hard ones, but ones that needed asked. Most of the time another thread is started and the questions ignored, or barely answered. People are just trying to help you.
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textsfromparrots, i want to say a few things.


its not a matter of intentions here. its literally the way people talk. i am aware of some of those forums, and a few of them (NOT all) can be really abrasive to people they dont quite understand. it is one thing to be harsh to someone to get a point across and to try to help them see something they might not be noticing, however, when these members do this and then follow this person around from forum to forum, regardless of what is said or not, that is harassment and not needed and that is called bullying. it is not anyone's business why she does things, it is not anyone's business to follow her around to chase her from forum to forum until they are satisfied when she has nowhere else to go. that is WRONG. i am not accusing you of doing it. but there has already been several people from another forum come here and think theyre so important that they can do what they like and make people miserable anywhere they go. in the end, theyre the miserable ones because they have no respect or empathy, and that is NOT how this forum is run, our mods here will not tolerate that behaviour and any member who decides to do this to our members here will not be tolerated, by the mods, or the kind members here.

whether newbee here is saying different things different places, that is nobody's business and if there is drama on one forum, it should stay on that forum. let people find a new start somewhere else in peace. we will not tolerate bullies here. i for one will not let members be bullied for stupid reasons. stupid reasons i mean by disrespectful people thinking theyre the elite birdie police who think they are right and have to rule everyone else's life and opinions. newbee does not have to share ANYTHING with any of you that she does not want to. she has that right to privacy. and if what you say is true and these people are calling rescues and police to see if the story is true, that is not anyone's place to do so. its beyond me that someone would think themselves so important and would go and do that. also, ever think that perhaps some rescues, police, whatever have to keep details of certain things confidential? not a one of you have any proof of anything.

and most of all not a single one of you know everyone's situations. they can choose not to say anything about something. what happens if they have a medical reason for why they do things the way they do? no place to judge. this forum is not a place for that, and i for one will not stand by and let this happen to a member who wants a place to talk and share stories and maybe get some kind advice. not everyone needs to be bashed in order to get advice. some people respond very well to being treated kindly and respected. this message goes out to any of the members from the other forums who are lurking here who think they can come here and try to push their negativity on us. we will not tolerate it, you will not be allowed to do so.


perhaps "rude" is like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder....


sometimes questions do not need to be asked, things do not need to be said. what right do any of these other forums have that they think they can come here and harass people? theyve been doing it for several days now and this is NOT right. they say they are not rude but yet what do you call chasing members around just to bully them and turn forums against them? thats rude. i for one have seen how rude other forums can be, ive had enough of those places and i will take my stand where those members butt their noses where they dont belong. i will leave them alone on their forums, because i will not stoop to their level and harass others on other forums. but come onto our peaceful more accepting forums and try to cause discord, you will see soon that it is not welcome.


now suggestion to everyone, please leave this member alone in peace here, you claim she wont have anywhere to help her. well guess what, harass her off every forum there is out there and she WONT have that option. we wont allow that. this member is welcome here and welcome to our help and advice, regardless of what has been done or said on another forum. people want new starts and deserve new starts. do not try to come here and ruin things for people. thats not right and i will not stand for bullies.


i know i am probably sounding a bit harsh, but i've had it with these people and i do not want to see more of this issue. let it go, both newbee and anyone who has issues with her. let it go, move on and leave things in peace. simple. there is no need to drag this drama out. i mean that kindly i dont want to see people leave this forum because they were attacked from OTHER forums and i dont want fights started because people just cant move on, be adults, and just let it go. ive learned that lesson hard so i am speaking from experience here. sometimes its a more mature and respectable path to forgive, forget, and learn from mistakes and build from them.


newbee will be upset about how she was treated elsewhere, and if people are invading her privacy, then you know what? she has every right to be upset.


but can we PLEASE stop dragging this onto the forum, with every thread?



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Privately messaging someone to try and let them know why people are confused isn't being a bully to me. I did so privately because I didn't want to be seen as publically attacking her and only came here because she viewed it as extremely rude. As for the research done, after hearing aboit the children living in feces and Tom Tom several people wanted to donate as well as see the bird wasn't being ignored because he was 'only a parrot' to the news people.

Honestly, if this is seen as bullying and harrassing her by pointing out she needs to give her situation truthfully to get the advice she's asked for. And did so in a civil manner privately before being called rude, I think this forum is not for me. I am actively NOT dragging other forums here, nor did I message her on this forum or bring up the context of my message. Actually, this is the only forum I actually post in instead of lurk. So I'm a sorry for my rudeness and bullying by offering some tips to hopefully help a new start. I think this forum is just too high in the dramatics for me.

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i am not saying YOU are doing these things. but some other members are coming here and i am already tired of it.

you came here to enjoy the forum, and you are allowed to do so.

and if you had noticed, i did say that things need to be let go, meaning, people dont have to be told that you are upset and thats why you are posting something, because then people will get defensive.


my previous message was not directed AT you. it was directed at the people who are still around chasing members everywhere they go. you were simply explaining something, and i am pointing out things said that others were doing that i do not feel are right or in their business to do so. again, not directed at you.

you know full well people dont always invade privacy just because they are concerned. there are some out there who do it just to get dirt on people so that they can start lies and drama. thats all i was saying about why it is not their business, because even if some are kindly meant, not all reasons are. thats all


you were not rude in your post here, you were neutral and explaining something. i was simply explaining what i have seen here from other members from the other forums who have come here just to attack the members here. you dont come off as one of them, you come off as genuinely wanting to enjoy it here and we welcome you


im just speaking also from personal experience that yes people are mean like that that they will chase people around for spite, you arent giving me that vibe. you came here, and you've been posting everywhere and being nice to people and i dont get that rude vibe from you. i have nothing negative to say about you, from what i have seen here, you are simply explaining yourself. nothing wrong there. nothing malicious about that

sorry if i came off like i was attacking you, because i was not. im just really tired of these other people who think they can do this to others.



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i think everyone should just be nice (not saying anyone isn't being nice)

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i think everyone should just be nice (not saying anyone isn't being nice)
I agree... I think it is time to put the past away and start fresh... Everyone needs to move on past any hurt feelings and begin over.
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I am still keeping an eye on everything, if you ever feel you need to talk to a mod or anybody else then feel free to send me a pm! Or any of our members, everybody here is extremely supportive. I do not want this dragging on, and I won't let it drag on anymore. Wipe the slate clean and enjoy your birds

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