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I'm looking at getting another bird in the next year, I currently have an adorable (yet quite vocal) Fischer Lovebird. My little lovebird is my very first bird who is spoiled rotten. I was told the other day that most avian people would not have recommended the lovebird as a "starter" bird. Other than his comical vocals he really is a good bird. I would like to take the plunge and get a bigger parrot. The ones recommended to me were either the Quaker, Eclectus, African Grey, Citron Cockatoo, or the Goffin Cockatoo.. I figured I would ask this community what you would think would be the next type of bird I should look at? I know that the bird picks the human I just want to make sure that I do all the proper research on my next little guy/gal before walking into a store blindly take one home. I am a very big bookworm. Any help would be appreciated.
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I wouldn't go for a cockatoo, personally, and out of all of them a Quaker sounds best

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I have read the most on the cockatoo.. The only fact that I can't seem to get a clear picture of is how frequently they scream or if they are an overly vocal bird. I honestly don't mind my lovebird when he peeps and vocalizes, and believe me, my lovebird has a set of pipes on him!!!
It is comical as of lately, because he has found that is is a fun game that when one of our dogs comes in the room with him he screams this gets the dog to howl. An the bird knows that its only the small black and white dog that does this, so the other 2 dogs he doesn't even make a peep. An really when I got my lovebird, they never informed me that he would be that vocal. Of course we have adapted to his shrills and excitement when he speaks to us.
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I will have to start reading on the Quaker I would like a bird that I can take out and have him sit with me play etc. as well as a bird that is a bit larger than the lovebird.

If I get a parrot, can his cage sit right next to the lovebird? Will this increase or decrease the vocals?

What other type of bird (other than the ones suggested to me from the bird shop) would you recommend? I'm looking at a parrot under 12" but definitely bigger than the average lovebird, budgie?

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Check out Green Cheek Conures... They come in many beautiful colors, are very friendly and love to be with their people... I have a pineapple gcc and love her to death... I sing or whistle to her while bobbing my head and she fluffs all up around her head... does the 2 step side to side, bobs her head and whisles with me... cracks me up every time. They are not much for talking altho some can talk fairly well. she is not cage aggressive and will go to strangers with no fuss at all. she is not a nippy bird altho gcc do have a rep for being nippy i personally think it is somewhat undeserved as all birds can be nippy.
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Check out Green Cheek Conures... They come in many beautiful colors, are very friendly and love to be with their people... I have a pineapple gcc and love her to death... I sing or whistle to her while bobbing my head and she fluffs all up around her head... does the 2 step side to side, bobs her head and whisles with me... cracks me up every time. They are not much for talking altho some can talk fairly well. she is not cage aggressive and will go to strangers with no fuss at all. she is not a nippy bird altho gcc do have a rep for being nippy i personally think it is somewhat undeserved as all birds can be nippy.
Thanks... I was warned about the nippy with the lovebird, he doesn't bite hard he tastes :-). I will have to check out the GCC. I did see a picture of the pineapple GCC and they are very pretty.
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What size cage would the GCC need? I just bought my Pickles an upgraded cage, he was in a 24x24x18 cage, and his new cage is 30x20x53 I really hope he will like it.
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Basic care for a gcc is mostly the same as for the lovie... with the same size cage you just upgraded to... I have a 32 x 21 x 35 flight cage for mine.
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Cockatoos like most birds vocalize in the morning, and at bedtime. Also, when excited, they also call very loudly. Ekkies are notoriously needy, and can develop plucking problems easily if not given full attention. Also they tend to have fairly demanding nutritional needs, that need to be carefully monitored. I would go for a quaker personally. GCCs are just too common for me.



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Cockatoos like most birds vocalize in the morning, and at bedtime. Also, when excited, they also call very loudly. Ekkies are notoriously needy, and can develop plucking problems easily if not given full attention. Also they tend to have fairly demanding nutritional needs, that need to be carefully monitored. I would go for a quaker personally. GCCs are just too common for me.
Thank you!! I know all parrots are delicate and needy to a degree, but I would like my second baby to not be "known" for it. What about African Greys? Are they known to be pluckers?
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I have no experience with greys but from all the research i have done they are very sensitive emotionally and are prone to plucking if bored or unstimulated.
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Cockatoos like most birds vocalize in the morning, and at bedtime. Also, when excited, they also call very loudly. Ekkies are notoriously needy, and can develop plucking problems easily if not given full attention. Also they tend to have fairly demanding nutritional needs, that need to be carefully monitored. I would go for a quaker personally. GCCs are just too common for me.
I wont tell Tiki you said she was too common... she thinks she is special and unique...lol
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Greys are difficult birds, some can be extremely nervous and delicate whereas others have an in your face attitude. Curiosity usually gets the best of them though. Cockatoos screaming is on a whole different level to lovebirds. When Eddie (a bare eyed I almost had many years back) screamed you wanted to grab your ears and my six lovebirds could never top that green cheeks have only recently started getting more popular over here but they're still quite uncommon, I have three currently (soon to be four but shush I haven't mentioned that yet!) and I wouldn't change them for the world, even if one has a death wish for me currently!

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Greys are difficult birds, some can be extremely nervous and delicate whereas others have an in your face attitude. Curiosity usually gets the best of them though. Cockatoos screaming is on a whole different level to lovebirds. When Eddie (a bare eyed I almost had many years back) screamed you wanted to grab your ears and my six lovebirds could never top that green cheeks have only recently started getting more popular over here but they're still quite uncommon, I have three currently (soon to be four but shush I haven't mentioned that yet!) and I wouldn't change them for the world, even if one has a death wish for me currently!
LOL... the birdie is plotting your death? I have heard that most birds have their own personalities. Though I have never heard of one plotting the death of their owners LOL
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Dexter is a female turquoise yellow sided green cheek conure. She is a gorgeous bird who I got at about 8 weeks old fully weaned. Hormones hit, he flies at my face, dive bombs me, does a little death dance at me and growls almost. She's a monster right now. Her and Pickles (maroon bellied x green cheek hybrid) have been mating a ton now they're both mature too!

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I don't know if my Pickles is a boy or a girl.. so we call him Mr. Pickles (to be determined).

Lovies have such a unique personality. I wish I could get my little guy to enjoy coming out of his cage... He is such a flirt while in his cage, and he responds only to me in the house (well and the black and white dog that he torments) he will chirp at me when I talk to him, he bobs his head, plays peek a boo, but he refuses to come out of the cage. I guess lovies sometimes get this way, but when I do get him out he never bites. He instead lets me pet him and hold him.. He is loving... He loves himself in the mirror...
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I think lovies are fabulous birds, I would have six otherwise over the years I have lost 3 lovebirds, 1 due to egg problems, 1 due to organ failure at an old age and the other was unknown and recent, the poor guy I found though so it could of been any factor really. Lovebirds are so much fun but they're so unique

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Birds demand so much attention, how do people have so many? Don't birds get jealous? Will my lovie have issues with me getting another parrot? I plan on putting their cages side by side which I think my lovie would like considering he is so anti out of cage bird, maybe it will make him want to come out if he sees another enjoy to come out.
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He may get jealous if he's bonded to you. In the house I currently have a hand raised budgie, 2 cockatiels, 3 conures, 4 lovebirds and my lory is free all day with me. I also have my aviaries to maintain and my birds of prey to fly. It's busy busy busy!

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i have a green cheek and i have a grey i love them both they are both fairly quiet birds kiwi does like to be with me and she is a little clown (green cheek) but she does get nippy at times but she is young Dusty my grey is a very good boy he loves to cuddle and play and talk to me if you get a hand raised grey and raise him/her right you will not have issues with nervousness or plucking. something new should be introduced to him/her everyday. both of my birds love to be with me i do not let them interact because i am afraid of what may happen . i thank it really depends on how much attention and effort you want to put into a new bird Kiwi (GCC) is easy going and does not need you to introduce new things each day Dusty however does so new things do not scare him and he does need attention each day

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