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Fly free my three girls and Snuggles

Just wanted to update on what has been going on with my flock, over the last month I have lost four of my cockatiels, Gracey got sick from the stress of moving into the aviary that had just been finished and didn't make it


then a few days after her my mum told me the bad news about Wynnie when I got back from work, they all had a fright while in the aviary and she must have hit the safety cage door wrong and broke her neck


then a little over a week after that Tipsy then got sick, I was lucky enough to be able to spend her last hour with her giving her strokes and telling her how much we love her


Saturday morning I got up to uncover the birds and check on them all, I couldn't see Snuggles so checked the cage floor because he sometimes likes to wonder around pecking at the husks and I saw him lying on the ground, raced in the cage but he was already gone.

For those of you who don't know Snuggles was Randy and Swingers latest baby, I've handled him since he hatched and he was such a little sweety but also had been getting treated for psittacosis since he was around 5 weeks old, he was such a trooper for the vet visit and just snuggled up and fell asleep on my mum for the long drive back, he loved to snuggle in your neck which is how he got his name and nicknames of Snugs, Snuggly Wuggly, Snuggies and always liked to be near his daddy at the top of the ladder.

He was a little slow at learning things and only just fully weaned a few weeks ago, I'll never forget the time he clumsily climbed my arm to get to my shoulder then Bear landed on my head and Snugs decided he had to join him, so through some clawing and hair pulling he finally made it to my head where the two of them stayed for a while (he didn't even know how to fly properly yet)
He was to young to go and very loved, he was only 15 weeks and 2 days old, almost four months old but it felt like we had him for so much longer. Farewell my little Snuggly Wuggly the three girls will be waiting for you, I'll miss seeing you run towards me for a visit and I miss you my three sweet and beautiful girls

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this one is from a few days before he went, as he got older I couldn't get any good photo's because he would fly away when I tried, also I think the feather loss around his face is from his eyes always being watery.

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Have you had a necropsy done to determine the cause of death as unfortunatly it sounds likes you have a disease in your flock.
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I agree with Amelia, there are too many deaths and too close together to be a coincidence so a necropsy would have been in order. Birds don't die from been moved to a new aviary or cage and I've never had a single one die from getting startled and taking off... and watery eyes are a symptom of psittacosis - are you sure they did not relapse? Because relapse is a possibility with that disease.
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Car Alarm was tested positive for Psittacosis around three months ago and has been getting treated but not really gotten better, I think maybe because I didn't relise he had been chewing on one of those calcium perches while on it. I think the stress from the birds moving into the aviary brought it out more in the others, they are all being treated for it in their water, not the best option since there is no way of knowing how much they are actually getting especially now that the weather is cooler but it's kind of the only option with an aviary setting, they are still being treated for it now.
Wynnie I'm almost positive was from a broken neck because when I picked her up her head was a lot more floppy than what the others were.

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So sorry for your losses.. Hope the rest of your flock gets healthy soon.
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I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your birds

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Sorry for your losses. I've been there and I know how horrible it can be Keeping and maintaining an aviary flock can be so, so difficult. I recommend that if one of your birds has psittacosis, you stop breeding. I know it's really hard to stop birds laying, but just don't let them breed. A chick's immune system is very, very low. When exposed to a bird with psittacosis they can catch it very easily. As proper quarantine is so hard to do, cross contamination is inevitable. I will say though that I don't think that feather loss is from watery eyes. Something could have been irritating him enough to keep rubbing the feathers away, or if he was in with another bird he could have been plucked? It seems like too much of a large area for the watery eyes to have caused that much damage

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thanks guys, I gave up on breeding them a few months back, the losses were to hard for me and the rest of the flock are to young anyway except Randy and Swinger but Snuggles hatched around a few days before I got Car Alarms test results back so there wasn't really much that could be done but to try my best at treating him and when they clutched again after him I froze the eggs so no more babies would be brought into it.

I don't see any breeding for me in the future or any more birds, even if I can manage to get rid of the Psittacosis I don't think I'm ever going to get another bird again, I get to attached and it's to hard when I lose them

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I know that losing a friend is a hard thing to go through, and the agony of losing this many so fast, well words don't begin to apply. But if you can get the remainder of your flock back to health, they will help you to heal. many times we have to go through certain things in order to learn, not even always for ourselves, but because someone else will need the benefit of what you learned a little further down the road. No one knows for sure. If you really care about these birds, this may open your mind and heart to other possibilities that you could do to help them. There are so many birds out in the world due to overbreeding and first time owners not knowing anything about birds, that really need a loving, caring person to give them a home and a chance to have a happy life. There is a huge empty space needing someone to fill it in the field of education about parrot keeping as a companion.
Today about anyone can buy a bird without any knowledge on what to expect or how to properly care for one.
Please don't turn off because of these losses, instead try to honor these birds and what they came and shared with you, honor what they taught you about themselves and about yourself and continue to try to make a difference in the world. There is so much you could do if you will just open yourself to the possibilities not shut down.
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Actually, doxy in the water supply is a very effective way of medicating birds. Nowadays everybody is saying that you need to put the meds in their beaks but the meds in water method has been used for years and years successfully. As it's cool where you are now and the birds will drink less water, I suggest you don't give them any produce for five days (a dry diet will make them drink more) and take away the water in the evening so they will take 3 or 4 gulps in a row when you put the freshly medicated water in the am -and add a little bit of honey to the water to mask the taste a bit and make it more appealing to the birds. That's the way I medicated when I had the epidemic in my birdroom and it worked just fine because, out of over 240 birds, only six died and four of them did before I even knew what was going on (psittacosis can act as fast and as sudden -no prior symptoms- as Pacheco although you never find this info online). Aviary losses are usually at 10% but I ended up with 2% so the containment and treatment were successful.
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You mention a calcium perch.

Whilst treated for Psittacosis with Doxy you need to remove all calcium sources, they can't have any extra calcium as it binds to the doxy and stops it absorbing and working.
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thank you so much guys

Bibi, you have given me some hope now that the water medication can work and thank you for all the suggestions, I will definately be trying them

Amellia, yes at the time I didn't think he actually chewed on it but have now found that he does quite often, thank you for confirming that the perches are a no go.

I'm going to be asking at work for every second Sunday off so I have more time with the birds while I'm medicating them and will be trying to get 2 weeks off soon. Hopefully with the extra time to spend with them, a better look through for any calcium things to take out and the suggestions from you guys I can get them all well again.

I'm feeling a bit more positive now

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Staying positive really helps, both you and your flock

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It's so hard what happened to you, I feel so sorry!
Fly high, little cockatiels, high over the rainbow bridge.
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