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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 05-10-2013, 02:22 AM Thread Starter
 
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Sad and Confused - What caused her death?

I can't believe I'm back in this section again. I have already lost Calypso, my lovely yellow-crowned Kakariki to a window almost just a year ago, which to me was a deep, personal loss. But now I'm back again as my lovely little Splendid Grass 'Keet has passed. It was not any where near as hard as to handle as the loss for Kiko as she was not friendly yet but I could never say that I'm not going to miss her. For a Scarlet-chested Parrot that could not connect with me in a way my hand tamed birds can I will defiantely miss her.

But my next question is more a concern. What caused it? She was found on the aviary floor slightly near a wall. My faster examined her and he said she was slightly skinny. There is dirt on the aviary floor with grass that I put there for them to eat whih has only been there for about a week. The grass only covers about half of the aviary floor though leaving the other half worth just concrete. The birds can reach sunlight and shade and the weather has not been cold for the past two days however it was quite warm, but not boiling hot or anything. The birds defiantely have access to water which i clean atleast once every day. The ground is usually not damp but if it rains then a tiny bit of water seeps in through the sides. No illnesses were clear from the outside of the bird.

I've tried to figure out what happened but I just can't get it. Did she die from temperature change? Overheating maybe? A disease? Anemia? Enteritis? Did she fly into the wall too hard just as my lovely kakariki did the window? Did she starve when there was plenty of food and I saw her eating the previous day? My last guess is that maybe my 3 year old nephew Erik scared him to death when his dad took him outside cos he was screaming too much and carrrying on.

Please Help Me! I have no idea and the only thing in my bird book that possibly matches up to sudden death of healthy looking bird is Psitticosis. And the last thing I want is for a disease to spread round to my birds and kill them all.

Please, Please Help!!!!

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I am so sorry for your loss we can all tell that you are deeply concerned. This is from my own experience - cover your aviary floors with plastic sheeting and then place slabs over the top of them. Aspergillosis is everywhere but can be found in abundance in dirt. I had a dirt floor in one of my aviaries and I'd never do it again. Another thing I highly recommend regarding the actually bird is getting a necropsy done. My recent necropsies showed I had a bird with psittacosis. My whole flock had to be treated. The reason I ask you to get one is if your bird was eating and was still losing weight it is actually a symptom. My birds had wasted away over night. 2 birds had internal bleeding from starvation however I had sat with both birds and watched them eat... very unusual. A necropsy can reveal exactly what it is though and for the rest of your flocks safety it would definitely be for the best. Again, very sorry for your loss

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Thank you so much for your reply, and for helping in such a short amount of time. First thing tomorrow the dirt is going and i'm doing a full on clean of the aviary. I will also begin feeding my birds in the morning aswell as in the afternoon so i can check that they're all okay and i can also make sure they have clean, fresh water constantly. I will also stop being slack and making sure my birds get they're peas, corn and spinach every day. Thank you very much yet again, i will hopefully prevent this from happening again.



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I second getting a necropsy to be certain.

Grass Keets are more prone to bacterial infections as they spend more time on the floor foraging and if that dirt you put in was not correctly sterialised beforehand it likely harbours some bacteria in there.

What other birds are kept in the aviary?
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Grass parakeets as apt to 'go light'.
Look it up.as I don't know enough.
Parrots mag did a feature on it a few months back.

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Aww so sorry to hear Fly free little baby
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The other birds in my aviary are two diamond doves, 4 cockatiels one splendid grass keet and every now and then my kakariki goes in there.

Thankyou all for your help and support. I am happy to anounce it was not a disease at all. Whilst I was in the aviary taking photos of Masoki, my male Splendid Grass 'Keet i noticed something to the corner of the camera screen. It was a streak of Hera's blood. I looked around and noticed them everywhere where she must have been trying to make her way up to her perch, scraping along the walls as she did so. I'm not sure intirely what happened but i'm guessing she got scared and tore herself open on a pot rivet or branch maybe. I have had my aviary birds since January the 21st and havnt had this happen before and i'm hoping it doesnt happen again.



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lots of chooks - KFC, Sooty, Squiggle, Speedy... etc...
1 Budgie - Schwepp
2 Yellow-crowned Kakariki - Kiko and (in memory of)Calypso
2 Splendid Grass Parakeets (In memory of Hera)
2 Diamond Doves
And 4 Cockatiels

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The other birds in my aviary are two diamond doves, 4 cockatiels one splendid grass keet and every now and then my kakariki goes in there.

Thankyou all for your help and support. I am happy to anounce it was not a disease at all. Whilst I was in the aviary taking photos of Masoki, my male Splendid Grass 'Keet i noticed something to the corner of the camera screen. It was a streak of Hera's blood. I looked around and noticed them everywhere where she must have been trying to make her way up to her perch, scraping along the walls as she did so. I'm not sure intirely what happened but i'm guessing she got scared and tore herself open on a pot rivet or branch maybe. I have had my aviary birds since January the 21st and havnt had this happen before and i'm hoping it doesnt happen again.
Unless you had her tested you can not be certain, there are diseases out there that cause brittle feathers which would cause them to break or her to break blood feathers, diseases such as PBFD.
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I'm sorry to hear of this.




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Unhappy I know the feeling....

Four years ago now I lost my little Black Headed Caique to internal bleeds. I spent $1200 on trying to save him and another $500 in necropsy tests all to find out that there was nothing. No disease or poisons. I was so lost and I still get teary thinking about it. I only had him for 2 years. I had my other birds put through tests and nothing there either. I still am battling one of my cockatiels plucking for 6 years now and he is 19 years old. I would say get the rest of your birds checked out by a licensed avain vet. And if the test results come back clean then just let it be and just grieve.
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