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Goodbye Dusty

It happened, and it happened a lot sooner than I thought it would

If you have been keeping up with my thread about getting Dusty, you will know that he was a very ill bird. He'd had loads of blood work, x-rays etc. and was even hospitalized before I had got him home. He was 20 years old and had liver disease and he was due to have his bloods done again this upcoming Tuesday to see if his uric acid levels had gone down a bit, otherwise it would appear that he had kidney disease too

I had popped out last night for about an hour in search of a fan (it's so hot here at the moment that I can't even sleep at night) and when I got home I was greeted by a chirpy Dusty, who always made his presence known. I sat on the sofa, ordered a take-away because I was too tired to cook and I was watching Dusty and Pip preening one another. Pip went to get some food (no doubt to fatten Dusty up) and in a matter of about 2 seconds he just fell off his perch. There were no signs, nothing nasty or anything. I was quite glad he went this way as it was so sudden, but I still couldn't believe what I had just seen. My stomach turned over and I burst into tears. I ran over to the cage and did what I had to do, bag him up and put him in the fridge, ready for a necropsy. As he was a rescue bird, I had to alert them immediately of his death so I ran straight upstairs to get my phone and called the lady who had helped me get him. She was extremely upset too and started to cry, which made me feel twice as bad as I already did. After many phone calls going around the rescue finally decided that we shouldn't go ahead with the necropsy. There was no need. Dusty had passed away from his liver disease. For a bird to show any symptoms of the disease, they're pretty far gone into it. When his liver became so enlarged that it took up the majority of his abdominal cavity, causing him to have breathing issues, I knew this was irreversible. We will be burying him in our garden

I am extremely upset about it. I feel sick to my stomach and my head is still spinning. I feel quite pathetic, because I already knew he was dying. I could have had minutes, days, weeks, months or years. Nobody knew. But I never expected it to be so soon. I only adopted him 11 days ago. He'd been taking his medication and everything but I guess it was his time. I always thought he would slowly get worse and that I would have to take him to be PTS, but I think he passed in the best possible way

Fly (or waddle, you can't fly) free Dusty. You were only mine for a short while but you have educated me and given me a further understanding of liver disease, you've made me smile, you've made me laugh, you've stolen just about every bit of food I have eaten and you've become Pip's best friend. You were a fantastic little man and I will always love you

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I'm sorry Daisy. You have done your best for him. Rest in peace Dusty.

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Aww poor little guy You have to know that he was happy and safe up until his last moments and you gave him the best little life he could have in just the short time you had him

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Thank you both. I'm just finding it really hard to get my head around
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He was an adorable little guy. I'm so sorry for your loss.
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I'm so sorry Daisy. You did your best. Unfortunately Lorikeets are prone to liver problems, often caused by giving them seed or food with too high an iron content. Not saying you gave him the wrong diet as I know that would not be the case, but early in his life well before you got him. But 20 is a pretty reasonable age for a Lorikeet.
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Thank you Kate. I never knew that lories/lorikeets were prone to it, if anything, I thought they'd be the least likely to get it! I know that they have hemochromatosis (iron storage disease for those reading who don't know) and I had previously been warned about that, but never liver issues. I only had him for 11 days, so it wouldn't have been because of me, I only found out he has liver disease the week before but I suspect he'd of had it a long time. I know duskies can live between 25-35 so I think he's done quite well! Not many birds make it that far
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According to Deb McDonald who makes Dr. Mac's Organic Origins bird food and hand raising food and was also involved with wildlife nutrition at Bronx Zoo for about 10 years. Excess iron in lorikeets will damage the liver. Also because lorikeets don't have the gastric juices in their stomach that helps seed eaters digest seeds that can cause liver and kidney problems too.

When I am hand raising birds I usually add some canned baby food (pear & banana, apple, apple and mango, you get the idea). I had a conversation with Deb a number of years ago and she said to only add the ones that had no added vitamins or minerals. I have always been careful about that and the only ones I use have added Vitamin C which is fine. Some people use the baby foods that also contain meat and they can have added iron. I have always steered clear of them.

He certainly has done well age wise considering he had advanced liver disease.
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I think that would explain his liver and kidney issues then do you do that for all of the birds you hand raise or just the lories and lorikeets?

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So sorry Daisey, you have been so kind and helpful to me in the last few days that I can only say if dusty was gonna go he couldnt of wished it any better than being loved and cared for up to his last moment, waddle free of pain Dusty.
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RIP Dusty, fly free under the Rainbow Bridge.
Daisy, he had wonderful last days with you.

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Yes Daisy I do that with all birds I am hand raising. It not only gives them a different flavour when I feed than just the hand raising mix but I have also found they are more inclined to eat fruit and vegetables when they are weaned as they already know the taste of them. When I was hand raising lots of Cockatiels I was constantly told that they were not big fruit and vege eaters, all the ones I hand raised would scoff down anything I put into the cage.

I also add Cottee's Raspberry Cordial into the hand raising mix. Not the diet type. And it must be Cottee's. It has been proven to be anti-bacterial. I have not had a case of sour crop since I started using it in 2000. I just use enough of the concentrate to make the food a rich dark pink colour, and you can't overdose on it. And yes you can get it in England. Just do a search for it. I have looked in the past and it is on sites that specialize in Australian foods for our ex-pats who crave food from home. It kills E-coli, Salmonella etc. All research on it is really only anecdotal but I have found it works as have many other people. Not just for birds either. Farmers have used it for calves with scours, pig farmers have used it for their weaners, poultry people have used it, dog breeders and the list goes on. Some people think I am mad but I have had lots of success with it.
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Daisy, I'm so sorry. It sounds like you gave Dusty love and happiness in the too short time you had. It's amazing how big a hole they leave in our hearts, no matter how long or short a time God blesses us with them. Dusty isn't suffering or waddling anymore...he's soaring with the angels now. God bless you! Soar high, Dusty, forever free!


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Yes Daisy I do that with all birds I am hand raising. It not only gives them a different flavour when I feed than just the hand raising mix but I have also found they are more inclined to eat fruit and vegetables when they are weaned as they already know the taste of them. When I was hand raising lots of Cockatiels I was constantly told that they were not big fruit and vege eaters, all the ones I hand raised would scoff down anything I put into the cage.

I also add Cottee's Raspberry Cordial into the hand raising mix. Not the diet type. And it must be Cottee's. It has been proven to be anti-bacterial. I have not had a case of sour crop since I started using it in 2000. I just use enough of the concentrate to make the food a rich dark pink colour, and you can't overdose on it. And yes you can get it in England. Just do a search for it. I have looked in the past and it is on sites that specialize in Australian foods for our ex-pats who crave food from home. It kills E-coli, Salmonella etc. All research on it is really only anecdotal but I have found it works as have many other people. Not just for birds either. Farmers have used it for calves with scours, pig farmers have used it for their weaners, poultry people have used it, dog breeders and the list goes on. Some people think I am mad but I have had lots of success with it.
Thank you so much for the info Kate. I'd always had trouble getting babies to wean on to the things that are good for them. Most of them just try to eat millet and such and I do like to abundance wean. Great tips!
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