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Foods your bird will love

Foods your bird will love:

Birdie muffins/bread:
You need to buy a box of corn-muffin mix and follow the instructions for the batter (if your bird has candida (yeast) then skip this until the bird is better and make sure you don't use a bread mix with sugar.

The mix usually asks for egg, if so, smash up the egg shells in there too. Add different things into it eg - some fruit and veg with your birds pellets.

Bake according to directions - double the baking time though

Allow it to cool and cut it into squares, it can be frozen and you must always allow it to thaw.


Birdie mac and cheese:
Use high quality whole wheat pasta prepared and suggested on the box. Shred soy cheese over the hot pasta. Parrots do not digest dairy too well so make sure it is a nondairy cheese!
Once it has melted add fruit, chopped veg, pellets, hard boiled egg (crumbled) or anything else your bird will like.
Cut into squares. Also freezable!

Birdie eggs:
Chicken eggs are a great source of protein, vitamins and minerals. Make normal scrambled eggs as you would for yourself and just add pellets, fruit, veg etc.
Make sure the eggs are cooked very well. They can in some cases carry diseases.
The scrambled egg should be very dry and boiled eggs should be cooked for over half an hour


Birdie juice/smoothie (my birds go crazy for this):
All you need is to get a load of fruit and veg your bird loves, pop them in a blender and there you have it! I often put sunflower seeds in there (after it's finished haha) and the birds love finding them out. Make sure it is only given for a short period of time as the mix can spoil pretty darn easily and it's not pleasant.


Birdie flapjacks:
Virtually the same as the birdie bread but you use a whole wheat pancake mix instead. Exactly the same in fact except for that. Also freezable!

I hope your birdies like them as much as mine do!

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I cant bake,lol so im gonna try the egg and birdie juice,thanks maybe now my fids will enjoy fresh foods!

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Mine adore the birdie juice! I love putting stuff in there too

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I would be careful using a boxed cornbread mix - they are usually VERY high in sodium and they often also have other additives and preservatives. It really is not that much more work to make a basic cornbread mix from scratch.

Or you can buy dry bird bread mixes, that you just add the water/juice, egg, some veggies etc and bake. My favorite ones are from Avian Organics
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That's a great tip, Lisa. I'd prefer making my own mixes and stuff from scratch anyway; then I know EXACTLY what's in it.

Someone on TB told me this really great recipe. It has something to do with putting eggs (shell and all) and some frozen vegetables in a blender, mixing it, then pouring it all into a dish, then putting it into the oven for a while. It'll puff up like a casserole or like bread. My birds loved it! If I could find the actual recipe on TB again, I'll post it on here. It's really great.




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That's cool Abby!

From all of the books I have read (I got the bread etc from somebody who works with birds as a living) they have all said that it is fine as long as you read what's in it don't buy stuff you're not sure about, I personally prefer out of all of those (even if it is messy) the birdie smoothie. They go crazy for it, You can make it into so many different varieties. They seem to love it, I always make mine pretty thick so they can still get chunks out

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I give mine a half a Birdie Bread muffin each morning, he loves them.
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That's awesome!

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My vet says that with these pellets, there is no need to give them any supplements or extra food. I find that so hard so believe. Not that I think my vet is lying. It's just difficult for me to believe. I don't think there will ever be a time I don't give my birds extra foods and cooked meals.

My vet also insists that I only give my birds organic food.




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Abbey - what it means is you don't HAVE to and you should be careful adding certain things. They're 100% nutritionally complete, so your bird is getting everything it needs in it's diet from the pellets, they're meant to be able to be served as a stand alone diet. Your putting your sunny on Harrison's right? Don't put your bird on any vitamin or dietary supplements without consulting her, because you can overdo it. But you can still offer fresh fruit and veggies daily, just offer a few pieces, enough to keep things interesting



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If they are 100% nutritionally complete, why doesn't everyone use pellets? I see there are big debates over seed and pellets, but I'd think I'd at least see more people on pellets than I do now if they are that nutritious.

Yes, I'm switching my Minnie to pellets as we speak and I'll be switching my Sun starting on Monday.

Thank you Jenny for clarifying, though!




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If they are 100% nutritionally complete, why doesn't everyone use pellets? I see there are big debates over seed and pellets, but I'd think I'd at least see more people on pellets than I do now if they are that nutritious.

Yes, I'm switching my Minnie to pellets as we speak and I'll be switching my Sun starting on Monday.

Thank you Jenny for clarifying, though!

Not everyone feels they're 100% complete, not everyone's birds will eat them, and many people (myself included) think it's just 100% boring to be on 100% pellets 100% of the time I have mine on Roudybush, 75% pellet, 25% high grade natural seed mix with 50 different types of seed, fruit, veg, and nut so that they get some variety along with the healthy pellets You have to go with what your vet advises and, frankly, what YOU feel is the best for your bird after researching all your options. I feel a primarily pellet diet with variety included is best for my birds, but not everyone feels that way. I've met Dr Harrison, and the vet who replaced him, and they preach feeding ONLY Harrison's with the occasional fresh fruit/veg treat. Don't get me wrong, birds thrive on his diet and they're amazing vets, but I personally think my birds appreciate the variety. My vet, Dr Susan Clubb, is on the advisory council for Kaytee and is the vet on call for Parrot Jungle Island and she prefers variety, and I really like her and trust her opinions She was the vet on call for our pet shop and gave health certificates for all our birds, and was the breeder for my Pionus, Angel, so I really trust her



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I can completely see your point of view. The vets at the veterinarian clinic I take my birds to say that same thing, that only pellets need and should be given, just the occasional veggie or fruit treat, and even though I like pellets, I'd still like to see other things be included in my birds diet on a regular basis. That's just how I see it.




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I can completely see your point of view. The vets at the veterinarian clinic I take my birds to say that same thing, that only pellets need and should be given, just the occasional veggie or fruit treat, and even though I like pellets, I'd still like to see other things be included in my birds diet on a regular basis. That's just how I see it.
While, of course, the vets know best, the way I look at it is... would I want to eat cheerios all day every day for the rest of my life with the occasional treat? No thanks! In the wild, they would forage and eat a wide variety of foods which change with the seasons - I think it's good to replicate that. Parrots need the intellectual stimulation of foraging, so finding different foods and variety is just a key element of that, to me. Also, if the leading Zoos and breeding programs think variety and enrichment are key to keeping a non-domesticated animal in captivity, I feel as though we should do the same for our birds since they're not truly domesticated animals.



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The Harrison's package says to only feed 10% other foods, but my vet, who also sells Harrison's, recommends feeding the following along with pellets: sprouts, vegetables, fruits, and safe human foods.
I feed both Harrison's and TOPs pellets. The TOPs (Totally Organic Pellets) package says that one is supposed to feed sprouts, vegetables, fruits, human safe foods, seeds, nuts, etc. along with the pellets.
Personally, I think the manufacturers and the sellers benefit from suggesting that we not feed our birds other foods. I think the birds benefit from variety.

My vet, Dr. Ellen K. Cook, who also owns birds, does bird rehabilitation, and holds behavioral classes, recommends all sorts of foods for the birds' stimulation and overall health. She recommends giving them food as "toys", leafy greens, carrots, safe tree branches with leaves, anything that can be hung around the cage and shredded that also has nutritional value. She also recommends sprouts daily.


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What's interesting is I just talked to a cockatiel owner who seems very, very against pellets and thinks they are too nutritous. All these varying opinions.....But I can really see Jenny and Nanay's side.




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Which pellets are you using Abby?

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I am using Harrison's, Daisy.




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Ah okay. Are the birds finding it okay?

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Yes, Minnie really likes it. Sun Conure hasn't tried it yet. I just feel better knowing I'm giving my birds better nutrition. My vet insists I am able to eat the pellets myself, but I have yet to try that...




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