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My "CHOP"

I made Petrie some "CHOP" or whatever you want to call this concoction, and he seems to really like it. I made a ton, used two ice cube trays and divided it all up, so I can take out a cube of it once a day and serve it to Petrie.

It has scrambled eggs, brown rice, collard greens, mustard greens, dandelion greens, peas, corn, carrots, and green beans, all chopped up as finely as I can without a food processor.

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Looks awesome and super healthy!!! Lucky birdie!

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Looks great... I also make a concoction for my birds... it has 5 or 6 different rice types in it. I buy a bag at walmart that is all mixed rices. I add wild rice, barley, oats, lentils, cous cous, pastas etc and cook al dente I then add a chopped up bag of frozen mixed veggies (corn, peas, carrots etc.). I freeze that in small portions then when I feed it I add flax seed, chia seed, kelp powder, sprouted seeds and fresh minced veggies. I eat a lot of salad so my veggies don't last long enough in the fridge to spoil. My birds get this for breakfast every morning and LOVE it!!
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I made Petrie some "CHOP" or whatever you want to call this concoction, and he seems to really like it. I made a ton, used two ice cube trays and divided it all up, so I can take out a cube of it once a day and serve it to Petrie.

It has scrambled eggs, brown rice, collard greens, mustard greens, dandelion greens, peas, corn, carrots, and green beans, all chopped up as finely as I can without a food processor.

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It looks awesome! I do the same thing for my birds with ice cube trays! Kudos to you for dicing without a processor, lol. After a few weeks of that, I broke down and bought a small cusinart from amazon for $20. I figured I only needed a small one because I never use it other than for the fids.
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Looks yummy!
I use a thing like a "slap chop" to chop up my veggies for my Beardie! Takes about 5 seconds to chop big chunks up in to tiny pieces, ha.



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Thanks, guys. I'm really proud of my concoction LOL and in the future I will add more stuff to it.




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Looks super tasty!
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I made Petrie some "CHOP" or whatever you want to call this concoction, and he seems to really like it. I made a ton, used two ice cube trays and divided it all up, so I can take out a cube of it once a day and serve it to Petrie.

It has scrambled eggs, brown rice, collard greens, mustard greens, dandelion greens, peas, corn, carrots, and green beans, all chopped up as finely as I can without a food processor.

Take a look!

Hi Abby,

I make up a similar "Brew", for my flock (3 budgies, 1 cockatiel and 1 lovebird), and the only one who will eat it is the cockatiel, the others totally ignore it.

I do as you do, and freeze it in ice cube trays, and just thaw out what I want each day. I've tried putting a little millet on the top, or some other treat, but it makes no difference, they just won't eat it.

I'm open to suggestions on just how to get them to try it, I've even tried the "monkey see, monkey do" method to no avail.
I've even tried making it like baby food using a hand blender, but it makes no difference.

Cheers,

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Looks delicious

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I made Petrie some "CHOP" or whatever you want to call this concoction, and he seems to really like it. I made a ton, used two ice cube trays and divided it all up, so I can take out a cube of it once a day and serve it to Petrie.

It has scrambled eggs, brown rice, collard greens, mustard greens, dandelion greens, peas, corn, carrots, and green beans, all chopped up as finely as I can without a food processor.

Take a look!

I think you deserve an A+ for effort and I hope you don't take offense to what I am going to tell you but the greens you chose are really not very good for a bird because they are all high in oxalates which inhibit calcium absorption and increase uric acid (two things bad for birds).

Please see this and take into consideration that, if you look closely, you'll realize that the greens you used that are listed under 'medium oxalate' are all cooked (the cooking reduces the oxalic acid in greens) and they are higher when raw: http://lowoxalateinfo.com/guide-to-low-oxalate-greens/

I recommend you switch to cooked broccoli or kale for chop, gloop, glop, kitchen sink or whatever you want to call it because they both provide excellent nutrition while having lower oxalate content.

Please don't feel bad about my comment, it wasn't meant as a criticism but as a help. It has taken me years and years of research and tweaking, adding, subtracting, substituting, etc to get a recipe I feel comfortable with - and it's been 20 years and I am still working on it!
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great job i chop without a food processor to not an easy job. i don't use the ice cube trays though i use freezer zip lock bags but that is because i make a lot and trays will not work with that much chop lol you done a great job and i bet your fid is happy to

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Thanks for the information you have provided here. Each chop sounds great to me. I'll be trying it on my fids.
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I recommend you switch to cooked broccoli or kale for chop, gloop, glop, kitchen sink or whatever you want to call it because they both provide excellent nutrition while having lower oxalate content.
It seems like the leafy greens content of our and our bird's diets forever remain a place of conflict and confusion. (Why the greens aspect seems to be the particular place for such intensity I find mildly interesting, though I suppose the internet tends to bring precision and specificity in its eternal desire for anxiety foment.)

After all the insanity related to spinach recently (perhaps this madness was deserved, perhaps it was completely overblown, I tend to duck and shuffle away quietly), I just settled on kale and bok choy for my monthly mixing. There is good stuff in these leaves, and my bird seems to love them--and they are relatively inexpensive locally. (There is a moment during the bird's munching on her mix when she stops and gazes off whilst slowly chomping on a kale morsel that warms the cockles of the old heart.)


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I use broccoli and kale for my gloop but give them raw leafy greens or cruciforms daily, also, and bok choy is one of them. The amazons adore the crunchy stalks...
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I've fed my parrotlet a predominately fresh diet since I brought her home a while ago, something which mutated from a short-term refrigerated layered salad ordeal into a longer-term bagged-and-frozen thing augmented by fresh bits daily. (TOP and soaked/sprouted seeds are simply mixed in to the batch.)

At my most recent vet visit, the doc told me that feeding a parrot "moist food" results in unwanted hormonal activity, including feather destructive behavior. She demanded I feed the bird exclusively pellets (she named Harrison's) augmented with fresh fruit and veg in tiny amounts--10% of the diet (how these can't be "moist" evades my logic). She handed me a photocopied pamphlet, branded and sourced from Harrison's (she must think I am an idiot--in her defense: I look like one), which supposedly corroborated her advice (I threw it away without looking at it--you might as well have been trying to sell me a Mazda with that thing).*

I don't have any evidence to the contrary other than nature and the whole wide world outside and book authors and photographs of parrots eating "moist food" in the wild, though I have to ask: Is this advice as insane as it sounds? Does feeding a parrot "moist food" truly result in 'unwanted hormonal activity'? Is it possible that feeding a bird exclusively pellets is pure and beneficial taking psychology and foraging and fun and experimentation and different needs on different days into mind? Or has my skepticism in re: vets become a touch nonsensical and adversarial?

I like the 'Chop', 'Gloop', fresh fruit and veg, soaked seed, fun food, pomegranate, kiwi, how about some quinoa, rice is nice, bung some broccoli in the batch thing because my bird seems to love it and thrive on it and it is great to watch a captive bird explore various food ideas.

Any thoughts on this vet's advice? Has corporate interest invaded psittacine medicine, or am I being paranoid?

*She also produced samples of Harrison's pellets which I refused to take (though I'll admit: if she had had some super-fine pellets for a parrotlet, I may have snatched a bag... but alas, there were none).

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I call it "birdie mash" and use a large food processor. I started making it for the cockatiels and included grainy wheat bread, chick peas, broccoli, nuts, oatmeal, sprouts, carrots, hardboiled egg with shell and added a small can of corn kept whole along with the sprouts. I feed it first thing in the morning for a couple of hours and then take it away replaced with a pellet and seed mixture. To keep it fresh I use a vacuum sealer with the vacuum bowls in the fridge instead of the freezer. I find the freezer makes it too wet and the birds like it better crumbly. My new Lilac Crowned Amazon has taken to it and to his I add fresh fruit, jalapeno chili pepper or bell pepper and a little smoked salmon or chicken. I'm fortunate living in Mexico as the Driscoll berry farms are close by and fresh veggies and fruit is relatively inexpensive.

Tip: DON'T lick the spoon if you include fresh jalapeno chili pepper.
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