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Pellets?

Basically my cockatiel has only ever ate seeds apparently, so I'm trying to introduce him to fruit and stuff and that's going well. I am going to try introducing him to pellets this week. But I am going to either use Harrison's high potency or adult lifetime. The person told me he was going through a really heavy molt which is why he has lost a lot of feathers around his neck and shoulders. But earlier I saw him pulling a few feathers out and I wasn't pleased. Due to his lack in nutrition I am hoping to switch him to the pellets asap. But which one do you think would be best? High potency is for birds who are weaning, breeding, rearing, molting and ill... so do you think that one would be best? I wasn't too sure so I thought I'd ask you guys before doing anything. Thanks

So far he has eaten (other than standard cockatiel mix seeds) bits of toast, millet, hemp and some Vitakraft fruit cocktail for cockatiels. I did push it with some lettuce too but he just wasn't having it!

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harrison's high potency is for transitioning a bird onto the pellet, breeding birds, and when a bird is in a stressful situation (molting, sick, etc) - it's not a long term diet for most species, tho some keep Greys and Ekkies on it long term since they have more specific needs. Start with high potency, super fine, and after 2-3 months when he's eating it well (and you run out of the bag ) switch to the regular blend



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Thanks Jenny that was my plan! I needed to know anothers opinions before doing so! Thanks

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I am switching Oliver to Harrisons pellets. Just started last week. Harrisons recommends all birds start on the High Potency for 6 months, then switch over the the Adult Formula after that. Oliver likes them, so the switch is easier than I thought it would be.

It was between the fine and super fine, but after a call to Harrisons, their recommendation was the fine. They send me a sample of each, and I am glad I had purchased the fine as the super fine is really tiny.




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Ah thanks Bob! I didn't know they did super fine. What size bird would they be for because scarlet chests are really small?

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super fine is for finches, parakeets, etc. its basically the size of millet, so is the best for converting all small birds IMO - they think they got a dish of millet and goodies and tend to dive right in



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Good point. That makes sense. Let them think it is millet, and they can't resist.

Their site lists the sizes:

HIGH POTENCY FINE: Year-round formula for conures, lories, quakers, cockatiels, lovebirds, doves and other small to medium parrots.

HIGH POTENCY SUPER FINE: Year-round formula for canaries and finches as well as budgies (parakeets) and other small parrots.

The fine is a the size of a Hemp seed, Oliver's fav treat, so he took right to it

The size of a Scarlet Chested Parakeet is smilier in size to the Parakeet. A little bigger than a Parrotlet. Since he is only 4 months old, I expect him to get a bit bigger.




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I have my bourkes, linnie, and green cheek on the fine, too. However, all of those birds were eating other pellets before I started them on Harrison's, and the old pellets and the Harrison's pellets are exactly the same size, so that made the switch a breeze.

Daisy, like Jenny I would recommend that you go with the high potency at first, especially since your cockatiel has not eaten pellets previously, so may not jump right in, and also because he is molting and perhaps even further stressed.

If he is plucking, is there any way you can have a vet check him for a possible physical condition? I know some people do not have any avian vets near enough for that, but if you do, that would also be a good idea.

My vet told me NOT to get high potency for Ashlynn, even though she is a grey and a baby. Why? Because she was eating like a hog and had gained a significant amount of weight in less than a month. She is definitely MY bird.


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Hahah nanay! What a little piggy hehe.

I DO have a vet but he doesn't do much with birds if you know what I mean. He can treat mites and all the usual but maybe asking him would be worth checking out. I do honestly believe he is plucking. He preens a lot. Almost constantly. And sometimes I catch him with a little feather in his mouth. So he is pretty bald. Only around his neck and shoulders though. But from looking at the back of his head a lot of feathers are coming back through. You can't really see the bald just looking at him. Oh I don't know. But I will try and get him checked out. I decided to be cautious and put some anti pluck stuff on him (which he wasn't happy at me for) and he didn't seem to care how foul it tasted. He just carried on. He has been treated for mites and I've noticed none on him or anything like that. I will look more into heavy moults before I go and see my vet. Other than the feather loss he is generally fine in him self. He isn't lethargic and he isn't showing any signs of ill health. He seems pretty happy too. Although when I went out last night he was left with my uncle in the living room. When I came back he (my uncle) was pulling his hair out. Joey had managed to scream continuously for two hours straight. I'm thinking I've got a diddy cockatoo not a cockatiel haha. As soon as he saw me he shut up. Must have been missing me

And thank you Bob for those guide lines I may start all of my birds on them (the finches I mean) because I honestly didn't realise they could have them too haha!

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Daisy,
I would be afraid he had some kind of a localized infection where he is plucking. I don't know if that is his crop area or what. However, I have no idea what to do when your vet doesn't do much with birds. I will ask at the bird store then next time I go if you want. I will just ask what might be a physical problem or what it might indicate if a bird is only plucking there.


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Thank you nanay that would be a great help. Looking at him though the bald places seems like he wouldn't be able to reach him self.

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I know what you mean, Daisy. It looks like those places are too close to his beak to reach.


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Yeah and I haven't actually seen him pluck. He preens LOADS but he never pulls any out.

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Update: I got the pellets this morning. He didn't seem interested what so ever. So I got him out on my lap for a bit and passed him them. He just put them in his beak and dropped them. So then I tried to just leave him with the bowl with a couple of seeds in for encouragement. Still no luck. Then I put them in various places on the floor... And he ate them! So its starting to look brighter. He is now taking them off me but isn't bothering with them in the bowl. But hey its only day 1!

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I think that sounds encouraging.


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Thanks nanay! He is getting there! He ate some scrambled egg yesterday, loved me for it hehe!

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Good lucking switching! You'll have to keep us updated. Kiki has officially been switched! No more trips to the vet.




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Congrats Abby

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Thanks. It's a real relief. I think I might try switching my budgies. I've actually seen them eating it before, which really surprises me!




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Switch them then if you wanna

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